What to Expect Flying QF5 from Sydney to Rome via Perth

Qantas flight QF5 runs from Sydney to Rome via Perth
Qantas flies from Sydney to Rome via Perth during the European summer. Photo: Qantas.

Qantas flight QF5 is the flying kangaroo’s seasonal service from Sydney to Rome via Perth. The return flight from Rome to Perth, and onwards to Sydney, operates as QF6.

Launched in 2022, the route is back this year and is extremely popular with Aussies heading to Italy for European summer holidays. Qantas flights to Rome operate from mid-June until early October, taking in both the Australian winter and spring school holidays. The route will be back in 2024 for another season.

QF5 is operated by a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. The journey from Sydney to Rome via Perth takes 22 hours and 30 minutes to cover a total of 16,638km.

Qantas 787-9
Qantas uses a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner on the Sydney-Rome route. Photo: Qantas.

Are you flying soon on QF5 from Sydney or Perth to Rome? This guide explains everything you need to know to prepare for your journey and have an enjoyable flight!

Qantas’ Sydney-Perth-Rome schedule

Qantas flights to Italy depart Australia on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays. The return flights depart Rome, bound for Perth and Sydney, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.

The leg from Sydney to Perth takes around five hours, while the Perth-Rome journey takes 16 hours. There is a 90-minute layover in Perth between sectors.

QF5 SYD-PER-FCO route map
The QF5 route from Sydney to Rome.

This is the QF5 schedule to Rome:

  • QF5 Sydney 18:20 – Perth 21:20
  • QF5 Perth 22:50 – Rome 08:50 (+1 day)

And this is the QF6 schedule back to Australia:

  • QF6 Rome 10:50 – Perth 08:30 (+1 day)
  • QF6 Perth 10:00 – Sydney 16:05

The flights are designed to offer easy connections at both ends. You can connect via Sydney or Perth from other Qantas destinations in Australia and New Zealand. After arriving in Rome, Qantas customers can also connect onwards to 16 European destinations including Milan, Venice, Geneva, Nice and Madrid with ITA Airways.

The view from the ITA Airways Lounge in Milan
Qantas passengers can connect from Rome onto other European destinations with ITA Airways. Photo: Matt Graham.

Qantas customers flying to Europe can also book an open-jaw ticket, arriving in London on flights QF1 or QF9 and leaving Europe from Rome. This could be a clever way to save money on the UK’s “Air Passenger Duty” departure tax.

Qantas flight QF5: The aircraft

Qantas flights QF5, and the return QF6, are served by a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft with 42 Business, 28 Premium Economy and 166 Economy Seats. The Boeing 787 is the newest long-haul aircraft type in the Qantas fleet.

Qantas does not offer wi-fi internet on its Boeing 787 aircraft, but seat-back in-flight entertainment is available at every seat.

Economy Class

On the Qantas Boeing 787-9, Economy Class is in a 3-3-3 configuration. The seats are a bit on the narrow side, but the legroom is comparatively generous with 32 inches of seat pitch.

Qantas Boeing 787-9 Economy Class
Qantas Boeing 787-9 Economy Class. Photo: Qantas.

If you can manage to score an exit row seat in row 46, it could be well worth paying the additional $190 for the extra legroom. The legroom in row 40, the front row of Economy Class, is also quite good.

Couples may prefer the seat pairs 59A/B or 59J/K, which are in the last row and have only two seats by the window due to the curvature of the airframe. The main downside of these seats is that they are directly in front of the lavatories.

Premium Economy Class

There are four rows of Premium Economy seating in a 2-3-2 layout. These seats are wider and offer more legroom than Economy – although they could use a couple more inches of legroom to be truly comfortable.

You can read a review of Qantas Premium Economy from Rome to Perth here.

Qantas Boeing 787 Premium Economy
Qantas Boeing 787 Premium Economy. Photo: Qantas.

Business Class

Every Business Class passenger on the Qantas Boeing 787-9 enjoys direct aisle access with the 1-2-1 layout and a lie-flat bed.

Qantas Boeing 787-9 Business Class cabin
Qantas Boeing 787-9 Business Class cabin. Photo: Qantas.

For maximum privacy (and a better view out the window), solo travellers may prefer a window (A or K) seat in rows 1, 3, 5 & 7; as well as 10K, 11A or 12K.

Seat 1A on the Qantas Boeing 787-9
Seat 1A on the Qantas Boeing 787-9. Photo: Matt Graham.

Read more: The Ultimate Qantas Business Class Seat Guide

Business Class passengers receive complimentary pyjamas (a.k.a. “sleeper suits”) on the Perth-Rome leg. Qantas also provides amenity kits to passengers in Premium Economy and Business. In 2023, limited-edition Western Australia-themed amenity kits are being offered on flights from Rome to Perth.

Qantas Dreamy WA amenity kit and contents
Qantas’ limited-edition “Dreamy” amenity kit design showcasing Western Australia. Photo: Qantas.

Getting an upgrade on QF5

Qantas’ Perth-Rome flights are extremely popular, and there may be limited availability in the premium cabins. Nonetheless, if you have an eligible ticket – and enough Qantas points – you can request a Classic Upgrade Reward to Premium Economy or Business Class.

Upgrading is possible if you’re booked on the Qantas flight number (i.e. QF5 to Rome or QF6 from Rome – and not a codeshare flight), and you don’t have an “Economy Sale” ticket.

You’ll be notified whether your upgrade request is successful within a week of the flight’s departure – and potentially even as late as at the gate, during boarding. Priority is given in the upgrade queue to Qantas Frequent Flyer members with the highest status tier.

If you’re flying all the way from Sydney to Rome on QF5, you would need to request an upgrade either for both sectors (Sydney-Perth and Perth-Rome) or neither. You cannot upgrade only one of the sectors unless you’re changing to/from a different flight number in Perth.

How many Qantas points do you need to upgrade on QF5?

The number of Qantas points required to upgrade on QF5 or QF6 is as shown in the table below. You can also check on the Qantas website.

FromToSydney-PerthPerth-RomeSydney-Rome
Economy Classic RewardPremium Economy19,60076,30098,100
Economy Saver/Red e-DealPremium Economy10,90061,60081,700
Economy FlexPremium Economy4,30019,60026,100
Economy Classic RewardBusiness28,300109,000135,100
Economy Saver/Red e-DealBusiness27,20098,100130,800
Economy FlexBusiness10,90054,00071,900
Premium Economy Classic RewardBusiness17,40073,50092,600
Premium Economy SaleBusiness11,90054,00071,900
Premium Economy SaverBusiness10,90049,10065,400
Premium Economy FlexBusiness9,80044,10058,800

If you don’t have enough Qantas Frequent Flyer points to request a Classic Upgrade Reward, Qantas may invite you to bid for a Bid Now upgrade using money. But if you have sufficient Qantas points, we’d suggest requesting a points upgrade as these are processed with a higher priority than Bid Now upgrades.

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Lounges at Sydney Airport

Although the first leg of QF5 is a domestic journey, the flight departs from Sydney Airport’s international terminal. You’ll clear immigration and international security in Sydney.

If you’re flying in Business Class, you can access the Qantas international Business Lounge at Sydney Airport prior to the departure of QF5. This lounge is also available to Qantas Club, Qantas Gold and Oneworld Sapphire members, and Qantas complimentary lounge invitations are accepted here.

Qantas international Business Lounge in Sydney
Qantas international Business Lounge in Sydney. Photo: Matt Graham.

The Qantas Business Lounge in Sydney is perfectly serviceable – albeit a bit dated. But if you have Qantas Platinum, Qantas Platinum One or Oneworld Emerald status, you should instead visit the excellent Qantas First Lounge next door.

Qantas First Lounge, Sydney
Qantas First Lounge, Sydney. Photo: Qantas.

If it’s open, you may also be able to use the Emirates Lounge in Sydney. However, this only opens around 5.10pm – three hours before Emirates’ first evening departure to Dubai – so you won’t have much time there before QF5 starts boarding around 5.35pm.

Transiting at Perth Airport

If you’re flying all the way from Sydney to Rome on the same aircraft, you won’t need to clear security again in Perth. While waiting to board the second leg of the journey to Rome, passengers eligible to use Qantas lounges can access the Qantas international transit lounge in Perth.

Qantas international transit lounge in Perth.
The Qantas international Transit Lounge in Perth. Photo: Qantas.

This lounge has ample seating, buffet food & drink options, showers and even a wellbeing studio for some pre-flight stretching.

Qantas Perth international transit lounge yoga
Prepare for the long flight to Europe with some yoga in the Qantas Perth lounge’s wellbeing studio. Photo: Qantas.

Which lounge does Qantas use at Rome Fiumicino Airport?

When departing from Rome on Qantas flight QF6 to Australia, eligible passengers can use the Plaza Premium Lounge on the upper level of Terminal 3, in Area E.

Since June 2023, Plaza Premium Lounges are also available to Priority Pass members.

In-flight meals on QF5

A full dinner is served in all cabins on the five-hour leg from Sydney to Perth. Supper is then served after departure from Perth. Prior to landing in Rome, a full breakfast is served.

Additional snacks and drinks are available on request – and from a self-service snack bar – during the long interval between supper and breakfast.

The menus vary by cabin class and rotate every few months, but there’s a distinctly Italian flair to the menus on this flight.

Examples of Business Class food served on Qantas flights to Italy
Some examples of Business Class food served on Qantas flights to Italy. Photo: Qantas.

You can see what food Qantas is currently serving in Business Class on the dedicated AFF thread. We also have a discussion thread on Qantas international Economy Class meals.

Flying QF5 between Sydney and Perth only

If you don’t want to fly all the way to Rome, it is possible to fly on QF5 just for the domestic leg from Sydney to Perth. In fact, this could be a great way to fly across the Australian continent because you’ll get to enjoy the full international service on board.

One disadvantage – depending on your perspective – is that the QF5 leaves from the international terminal at Sydney Airport. You’ll need to check in earlier than you would for a domestic flight and will be subject to the international LAGs (liquids, aerosols & gels) restrictions.

You’ll also need to clear Australian immigration and customs in Sydney and Perth. But as you’re not leaving the country, your boarding pass will have a “D” sticker on it.

On the plus side, if you have access to Qantas lounges, you can use the international lounges in Sydney when flying to Perth on QF5.

Some history of the QF5 flight number

Until April 2013, the QF5 flight number was used on Qantas’ Sydney-Singapore-Frankfurt service. This route was discontinued, but the QF5 flight number continued to be used until 2018 on the Sydney-Singapore route.

Qantas first began serving both Frankfurt and Rome in the 1950s, with a Super Constellation aircraft that flew from Sydney to London with stops in Darwin, Jakarta, Singapore, Bangkok, Calcutta, Karachi, Cairo, Athens, Rome and Frankfurt. Over the years, most of the stops were removed as new aircraft were developed that could fly further.

Prior to the launch of Perth-Rome services in 2022, Qantas had previously flown from Sydney to Rome via Bangkok as QF15 until 2003.

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Just saw on Twitter that Qantas will fly direct from Australia to Rome starting June 2022- SYD-PER-FCO

Its a seasonal route and will operate during the European summer.

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I'll save everyone the trouble. As WP, there were zero classic award seats in either direction except on June 22 & 23.

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To be announced today. New seasonal Sydney-Perth-Rome service with three Boeing 787-9 flights per week. Running from 22 June to 6 October. No times announced yet.

I can’t find PER on any maps.

I thought Germany or CDG would be next!

They are further away, so range/payload/cost come into play. When they flew to Rome years ago, the aircraft were always full, but it was apparently a pretty cost conscious form of passenger, so it was never a money spinner.

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Thanks Qantas for doing your part to help free WA!

Great news! An interesting route - more leisure and family reunification destination for a premium heavy aircraft - but I’d love to be on it.

Thanks @Notyourbag for breaking the news!

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Looks like it's:
QF5
PER 22:20
FCO 08:45 (+1)
16 hr 25 min duration

And the return
QF6
FCO 10:50
PER 08:45 (+1)
15 hr 45 min duration

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With J available for the inaugural!

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Looks like it's:
QF5
PER 22:20
FCO 08:45 (+1)
16 hr 25 min duration

And the return
QF6
FCO 10:50
PER 08:45 (+1)
15 hr 45 min duration

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With J available for the inaugural!

Count to 30 and it will be gone - full of AFF members!

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Can we infer from that annoucment that more A380 should be back before the 22 of june, to free up some B787?

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Wow this is cool. I imagine this could open up some interesting routings from FCO too through to other places.

Will be interested to see if this is underwritten in any way by WA govt and/or if it has any impact on the airport plans. I was under the impression there was a dispute holding up new routes until / due to the desire to move QF over to the consolidated side.

Perhaps South Africa ex PER may follow soon.

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I'm surprised they haven't saved the QF5/6 flight numbers for a FRA route. Still, FCO is cool.

Qantas will have no trouble filling the FCO-PER flights to the brim during the last few weeks of July.

Qantas has mentioned that onward connections to cities across continental Europe will be available from FCO with its airline partners. Which airline partner would that be - ITA?

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ITA seems like a poor choice but the only obvious choice. I suppose ITA willing to do them a real deal to get some pax (and obviously there is precedent for QF with the limited KL partnerships).

Personally I am not convinced at all. Yeah get a few full flights for maybe a peak summer month, and I get this will be seasonal, but I just can't see it being viable for more than VFR traffic.

I can't see higher yielding pax giving up options like SQ or EK for this flight and so struggle to see how it might make real money (it's not LHR which has a very different demand dynamic,not to mention multiple connection options and strong OW hub).

Time will tell.

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