The “Lounge Within a Lounge” Concept: Good Marketing?

LOT Polish Airlines has a separate lounge within its main Schengen lounge for Star Alliance Gold members
LOT Polish Airlines has a separate lounge within its main Schengen lounge for Star Alliance Gold members. Photo: Matt Graham.

I recently flew out of Warsaw with LOT Polish Airlines, and had access to the airline’s newly renovated Business Lounge. An interesting feature of this lounge is that there’s another separate lounge, inside the main one, which you can only access with Star Alliance Gold status.

LOT isn’t the only airline to embrace this “lounge within a lounge” concept. Even Qantas has more exclusive lounges inside some of its airport lounges. So, why do airlines do this… and should others follow?

The LOT Polonez Business Lounge in Warsaw

For a bit of context, LOT opened the Polonez Business Lounge at its Warsaw hub just a month ago after an extensive refurbishment. The main lounge is really quite nice, with several different buffet sections, natural light, views of both the runway and check-in area, showers and plenty of comfortable seating.

Entrance to the LOT Polonez Business Lounge in Warsaw, accessible with Star Alliance Gold status or a business class ticket
The LOT Polonez Business Lounge in Warsaw. Photo: Matt Graham.

As you walk further into the lounge, a separate lounge entrance appears on the right. This “premium” area has its own reception desk where you need to scan your boarding pass again, and is only accessible to Star Alliance Gold members.

I am lucky enough to have Star Alliance Gold status with Turkish Airlines, so I had a look at the Gold Lounge. The food and drinks were almost identical to the main lounge, including the hot food available, except that the Gold Lounge had proper champagne. Nice!

Buffet in the Star Alliance Gold section of the LOT Polonez Business Lounge
Buffet in the Polonez Gold Lounge. Photo: LOT.

The main differences were that the Gold section was quieter, as it had fewer people in it, and darker as there was no natural light.

Seating in the Star Alliance Gold section of the LOT Polonez Business Lounge
Seating in the Star Alliance Gold section of the LOT Polonez Business Lounge. Photo: LOT.

There was also a relaxation area at the back of this lounge with comfortable chairs to nap in.

Relaxation area at the back of the LOT Polonez Gold lounge in Warsaw Chopin Airport
Relaxation area at the back of the Gold lounge. Photo: LOT.

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Other airlines with separate premium lounges

Many airlines offer differentiated lounge experiences for different types of customers. For example, Qantas offers domestic Business Lounges at major Australian airports for passengers booked in Business, as well as Platinum and Platinum One flyers.

In Brisbane, the Business Lounge is even located within the same physical space as the Qantas Club, with a separate reception area at the back of the main lounge.

Qantas domestic Business Lounge in Brisbane
The Qantas domestic Business Lounge in Brisbane. Photo: Qantas.

Qantas also offers both Business and First Class lounges at some international airports – as do many other airlines. For example, Cathay Pacific offers a separate First Class section at its London Heathrow lounge, in addition to dedicated First Lounges in Hong Kong.

But this isn’t the case at all airports. When Qantas refurbished its Brisbane international lounge last decade, it removed the dedicated First Class section and made it a combined “International Lounge”.

Qantas is now doing the same in Auckland, with the dedicated First Class cupboard section being removed to make way for a larger space with more capacity overall.

Qantas Auckland First Class Lounge
The Qantas First Lounge in Auckland, a.k.a. “the cupboard”. Photo: Aaron Miles.

Is this just good marketing?

On one hand, having a more premium, private area for customers that the airline considers more important can make those eligible to access it feel more important.

When the premium section does genuinely come with more premium service, this is a great benefit. For example, there’s a huge difference between regular United Club lounges and the United Polaris Lounges which are reserved for long-haul Business Class passengers. Similarly, Air Canada’s Signature Suite offers a much more premium dining experience than the regular Maple Leaf lounges.

British Airways similarly has a “Concorde Bar” hidden inside its lounge in Singapore, exclusively for First Class and Gold Guest List passengers.

British Airways Concorde Bar in Singapore
The British Airways Concorde Bar in Singapore. Photo: Matt Graham.

But is there really such a big difference between the Qantas Club and the domestic Business Lounge? Other than perhaps a few more premium wines, and some extra dining options in some lounges (like the spice bar in Melbourne), I can’t think of too many tangible differences.

Sure, the domestic Business Lounge in Melbourne has a better view than the Qantas Club. But the opposite is true in Canberra, so it’s not a systematic thing.

In Warsaw, the only real difference between the LOT lounges that I could tell was the champagne and the relaxation area.

Not the most efficient use of space

One of the main downsides of segmenting a lounge into designated areas is that it’s hard to change the capacity of each space. One part of the lounge might be overflowing, while another sits mostly empty.

Admittedly, the additional peace and privacy is kind of the point of having a more exclusive “premium area”. But if this ends up working the other way around, it can be problematic. This is one of the reasons that Qantas last year moved the wall between its Qantas Club and domestic Business lounges in Sydney by about 20 metres. That took several weeks of construction to complete.

The expanded Qantas domestic Business Lounge at Sydney Airport
Qantas expanded its domestic Business Lounge in Sydney last year. Photo: Matt Graham.

Combined lounges use the available space more efficiently as you don’t have walls or partitions built into the lounge.

And just because there isn’t a dedicated “premium” section, that doesn’t mean an airline can’t offer a more premium experience within the same lounge to its VIPs. For example, Qantas has a secret champagne and a la carte dining menu in some of its international lounges for Platinum One and First Class passengers.

Should Virgin Australia adopt this concept?

Looking at the Australian market, the most obvious opportunity to adopt the “lounge within a lounge” concept lies with Virgin Australia.

Virgin Australia has lounges at seven Australian airports. While they are generally quite nice, they can get quite busy and the food and wine sometimes feels a bit cheap.

Virgin Australia Lounge buffet
The Virgin Australia Lounge in Melbourne. Photo: Virgin Australia.

If it wanted to, as an example, it wouldn’t be that difficult for Virgin Australia to turn the upstairs section of its Sydney domestic lounge into an exclusive area for Business Class passengers and Velocity members holding the airline’s soon-to-be-launched Platinum Plus status. This section could offer a slightly better menu or perhaps some extra a la carte dishes, more premium wines, and spirits.

Yes, it would cost Virgin a bit more to provide these extra things. But it would also greatly elevate the airline’s Business Class experience and create more of an incentive to earn Platinum Plus.

What do you think of this concept?

So, AFF, over to you. What do you think of the “lounge within a lounge” concept? Is it a great benefit for premium passengers, or just hype?

You can share your thoughts on the AFF forum:

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Hype.

LH has the same at LHR T2. Food and drink is exactly the same.
SK has the same at OSL. Food and drink is ........... exactly the same. Actually there are maybe 1 or 2 extra dishes.

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Apart from the AC Polaris lounges my only experience of the 'lounge within a lounge' is the SG private room within its First lounge in Singapore. Not much difference in food and drink apart from a bit better champagne, but where it really scores is in the peace and quiet. To me that is well worth it.

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I love the idea of separate lounges/areas where the more premium customers get an elevated experience -- which, to me, means more space and, as @ThePointyEnd pointed out (no pun intended!) above, peace and quiet. I don't care about the champagne or a la carte dining: but when the lounge is standing room only, I feel let down and I would love a lounge where it's easy to find somewhere quiet to sit down.

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It is an OK concept but the airlines needs to ensure that the premium lounge is nicer than the regular one. It doesn't work for me in CBR where I much prefer the Canberra Qantas Club over the business lounge for the better runway view.

In Oslo, the SAS gold section is just as bad as the regular part - nothing extra at all.

In Germany, we found the Senator lounges were better - less crowded - I think it was Dresden where there was a nice little area through a separate door at the back of the lounge.

The joys of UA Gold which I am about the lose again for a second time :-(

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Matt has the inside knowledge I think, I was told by the MAN himself when Bain first took over Virgin, a lounge in a lounge.

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Apart from the AC Polaris lounges my only experience of the 'lounge within a lounge' is the SG private room within its First lounge in Singapore. Not much difference in food and drink apart from a bit better champagne, but where it really scores is in the peace and quiet. To me that is well worth it.

Do you mean United Polaris or AC Signature?

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Do you mean United Polaris or AC Signature?

Oops! I meant United, sorry.

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And I guess similar is the differentiation by service.
Eg. The phone call to make massage bookings for actual First passengers at QF SYD and MEL, and reserved tables.
Plus the better offerings of Champagne at LHR.

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If it's St Agnes vs Martel, give me Martel any day!

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'lounge within a lounge' is the SG private room within its First lounge in Singapore.

Yes, that's probably the best example of all. Truly a 'lounge within a lounge' with a unique ambiance.

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