Qantas’ Frustrating Application of Married Segment Logic

Qantas A330 at Melbourne Airport
Qantas is regularly blocking frequent flyers from booking connecting domestic flights on international Classic Flight Reward tickets Photo: Matt Graham.

Many airlines including Qantas use “married segment logic” when selling airfares these days. This is where two flights on a connecting itinerary are “dependent” on each other, and are priced as a through-ticket from the origin to the final destination.

Airline revenue managers use married segments for a variety of reasons. For example, Qantas might choose not to make any seats available for sale on a certain Melbourne-Sydney flight to passengers booking a ticket from Melbourne to Sydney. But if you booked a flight from Melbourne to Tokyo, Qantas might offer you a connecting itinerary via Sydney – using that same Melbourne-Sydney flight. In this case, Qantas might be choosing not to fill seats with passengers just flying from Melbourne to Sydney in order to make seats available to valuable connecting passengers.

Airlines also use married segment logic when setting airfare prices. For example, a Qantas flight from Perth to Melbourne might sell for $2,500 one-way in Business Class. But a flight from Perth to Auckland via Melbourne might cost $1,500 one-way in Business Class. This is done because Qantas needs to compete with Air New Zealand’s non-stop Perth-Auckland service. But there is less price competition on the Perth-Melbourne route, so Qantas can “afford” to charge more in that market.

In summary, when you book a connecting itinerary with most airlines (except Rex), you are not simply paying for the sum of the two individual flight sectors. You’re paying for a ticket from the origin to the final destination, and this may bear little resemblance to the cost of the individual flights that make up the itinerary.

This also means that if you try to change a multi-stop booking to remove one or more of the flights, you might even end up paying more.

You can learn more about married segments in episode 24 of the AFF on Air podcast.

Married segment “logic” (which is not always logical) also has implications for award flight bookings, and not always in a good way…

Qantas blocking domestic connections on some Classic Flight Reward bookings

I recently tried to redeem Qantas points for a Classic Flight Reward ticket from Canberra to Auckland in Economy. I found a Classic Reward seat available from Canberra to Sydney (QF1504 in the example below)…

Qantas Classic Flight Reward availability CBR-SYD
Screenshot from the Qantas website.

And another seat available from Sydney to Auckland (I was trying to book QF145)…

Qantas Classic Flight Reward availability SYD-AKL
Screenshot from the Qantas website.

Although QF1504 and QF145 both had Economy reward seats available, I could not book both flights as a connecting itinerary on a single Classic Reward ticket.

Qantas Classic Flight Reward availability CBR-SYD-AKL
Screenshot from the Qantas website.

In fact, the Qantas website was not offering a single reward seat that day from Canberra to Auckland via Sydney. The only option given was via Melbourne, using the dreaded red-eye flight from Melbourne to Auckland.

I even tried breaking up the search by using the multi-city booking tool, and was able to select both flights individually and get to the payment page. But I got an error on the payment page. Qantas simply would not let me book this itinerary.

I ended up booking separate tickets from Canberra to Sydney and Sydney to Auckland. This meant I had to spend an extra 8,000 Qantas points and pay GST on the taxes & charges for the Canberra-Sydney sector (since that was no longer part of an international itinerary).

Unfortunately, this is not an isolated case. I’ve seen many other examples of this recently. Here’s another one…

The Qantas website currently shows that there is a Business Classic Reward seat from Adelaide to Sydney on the 6.05am departure on 20 April 2023:

Qantas Classic Flight Reward availability ADL-SYD
Screenshot from the Qantas website.

There is also Business Classic Reward availability on the Sydney-Hong Kong flight that day:

Qantas Classic Flight Reward availability SYD-HKG
Screenshot from the Qantas website.

But can you book a ticket from Adelaide to Hong Kong via Sydney, using these flights, as a Business Classic Reward? Well, no…

Qantas Classic Flight Reward availability ADL-SYD-HKG
Screenshot from the Qantas website.

The Qantas website offers this connection as a commercial airfare or a “Points Plus Pay” booking, but not as a reward booking. When you try to “marry” the two segments, there is no Classic Reward availability.

So, instead of paying 82,000 Qantas points (plus taxes & carrier charges) for a Business Classic Reward from Adelaide to Hong Kong via Sydney, the cheapest available option on points is 738,800 Qantas points. That’s 900% more points.

You could book the Adelaide-Sydney and Sydney-Hong Kong flights on separate tickets and pay 96,000 Qantas points + $193. However, Qantas probably would not check your bag all the way through from Adelaide to Hong Kong, since you would have separate tickets. Perhaps even more frustratingly, this also means that you would not be protected in the case of a delay to the Adelaide-Sydney flight.

If you book a connecting itinerary on the same ticket and the first flight is delayed, the airline would rebook you on another flight at no cost. But if your second flight is on a separate ticket, you may be considered a “no show” when you don’t check-in on time for the second flight and ultimately forfeit the ticket.

It’s likely no accident that Qantas is routinely blocking domestic connections on international Classic Flight Reward itineraries. Married segments are a deliberate revenue management strategy. I’m sure there’s a good internal reason that Qantas is doing this, but it can be rather frustrating for Qantas Frequent Flyer members.

The editor of Australian Frequent Flyer, Matt's passion for travel has taken him to over 70 countries… with the help of frequent flyer points, of course!
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You could book the Adelaide-Sydney and Sydney-Hong Kong flights on separate tickets and pay 96,000 Qantas points + $193. However, Qantas probably would not check your bag all the way through from Adelaide to Hong Kong, since you would have separate tickets. Perhaps even more frustratingly, this also means that you would not be protected in the case of a delay to the Adelaide-Sydney flight.

1) Bags would be through-checked per Qantas policy for connecting flights, even if they are on separate PNRs. Source: Interline and Through Checked Baggage Policy, Qantas.

2) Anecdotally, I was told by two QF agents that for connecting flights on separate PNRs, if the tickets were purchased and issued by QF (has 081 ticket number), the flights would be considered 'protected' by QF. My guess is that they are referring to the Qantas and Other Airline Schedule Change Policy, specifically under 081 Qantas Tickets Connecting Flights, where it states:

When you have a schedule change on a connecting flight it must be on the same Qantas (081) ticket for you to apply the Qantas Schedule Change Policy. This policy does not apply to connecting flights held on a separate ticket.

Never had to try this before so take point 2 with a grain of salt, and be prepared for a lot of arguing with the agents.

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I think there's a typo with the Adelaide to Sydney flight.

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It's even worse! Married segments apply even if a partner changes a flight on you and emails you a new schedule. AA left me with a 1:20 connection in DFW on MTY-DFW-MIA-BON. This wasn't me changing my mind, it was AA changing a flight from around 13:30 to 12:30 and pushing me onto a 16:30 flight. I wanted the 12:30 or the earlier 10:15 one. The QF people could book the 10:15 one in Y award class. But they couldn't cancel the 16:30 flight AA foisted on me. It was either cancel the whole thing and start from scratch (impossible because the MIA-BON segment is no longer available), get a refund with cash flights pricing at $1200 or accept the flights AA reaccommodated me on. The QF staff were willing to give me the flight I wanted. The computer wouldn't let them.

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It's not necessarily a bad thing. In the Hong Kong example in the article, it may be frustrating for the Adelaide resident but it would be utter joy for the Sydney resident.

It may be that the allocation for Adelaide has already been exhausted.

I'd like to think that married segments gives everyone in every location a fairer allocation of award seats.

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It's not necessarily a bad thing. In the Hong Kong example in the article, it may be frustrating for the Adelaide resident but it would be utter joy for the Sydney resident.

It may be that the allocation for Adelaide has already been exhausted.

I'd like to think that married segments gives everyone in every location a fairer allocation of award seats.

But it makes it incredibly difficult to plan complex itineraries like oneworld awards, which you'd usually piece together flight by flight and assume that if a seat in U is available, it's available without strings attached.

@AFF Editor was QF invited to comment on this as to whether it's policy or just a system issue? Is there anywhere in the FF T&Cs that prevent them being booked as a combined ticket? Can one force their booking if you have access to HBA?

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I'd like to think that married segments gives everyone in every location a fairer allocation of award seats.

Fairer but not simpler

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But it makes it incredibly difficult to plan complex itineraries like oneworld awards, which you'd usually piece together flight by flight and assume that if a seat in U is available, it's available without strings attached.

Difficult, yes, but not necessarily a bad thing. Make it too easy and all award seats will disappear very quickly. Married segments allow those who are willing to put in the time and effort to search for every possible combination of origin and destination to find seats that the majority of people have missed.

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@AFF Editor, did you try phoning Qantas and asking for the seats to be released?

I've done this countless times and it's never been a problem.

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While it is not a problem for those who are WP or P1 who can request seats be released but certainly an issue for everyone else.

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Married segments are a big problem for qf premium fares ex-nz. Very often will find most legs in a multi-leg journey are downgraded to economy, especially for Australia domestic flights. Sometimes Asia or Europe flights show only in economy for all 4 flights despite being on a business class fare with business class availability if do separately trans-tasmsn return and Oz to asia/Europe return on the same flights.

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