Questionable: Qantas Will Fly Its A321XLR to Manila

Qantas A321XLR Economy Class
Qantas Airbus A321XLR Economy Class. Photo: Qantas.

Qantas’ brand new Airbus A321XLRs can fly up to 8,700km. Eventually, the flying kangaroo plans to operate a sub-fleet of these planes which are specifically configured to take full advantage of that range, with lie-flat Business seats and on-board amenities designed for longer flights.

But the A321XLRs in Qantas’ current fleet are only designed for short-haul flying. They have recliner seats in Business Class, no seat-back entertainment screens, and there are just two toilets shared between 180 Economy passengers. (Qantas has committed to installing a third one down the track, after a customer backlash.)

I’ve flown on the Qantas Airbus A321XLR from Sydney to Melbourne, and the plane is perfectly suitable for that length of flight.

But I’m scratching my head at Qantas’ recent decision to schedule this plane onto the Brisbane-Manila route from late October 2026. This seems to me like a case of “just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should”. Like putting tomato sauce on ice cream.

Qantas currently uses an Airbus A330 on Brisbane-Manila

The 5,788km flight from Brisbane to Manila (depending on how you measure that distance) takes eight hours. The return leg, like almost all of Qantas’ flights from Asia to Australia, operates overnight.

Since relaunching the Brisbane-Manila route in October 2024, Qantas has been using a wide-body Airbus A330-200 with 27 lie-flat Business Class seats.

Qantas Airbus A330-200 international Business Class seat
Qantas Airbus A330-200 international Business Class. Photo: Matt Graham.

Qantas will fly an A321XLR to Manila from October

The airline will switch its Brisbane-Manila route to the smaller Airbus A321XLR, which is configured for domestic flights, in October.

Qantas A321XLR Business Class seats
Qantas Airbus A321XLR Business Class. Photo: Qantas.

At the same time, Qantas will increase the frequency on this route from 5x weekly to daily. That’s a plus, but I don’t think it makes up for the vastly inferior in-flight experience that passengers can expect.

The wrong product at the wrong price

So, with a significantly worse Business Class product on board, Qantas is dropping the price… right? Well, no.

The lowest return Business Class fare I can currently see from Brisbane to Manila, while the Airbus A330 is operating, is $4,230. If you book on the A321XLR, you can expect to pay… at least $4,230. In other words, Qantas is charging the same price for a much worse product.

Admittedly, Philippine Airlines also uses an Airbus A321 on its Brisbane-Manila service. But the Philippine Airlines version is specifically designed for longer flights and has lie-flat Business Class seats.

As I wrote last year, flying long-haul in a narrow-body jet can be OK. There are inherent downsides, but it’s manageable if the airline configures the plane with longer flights in mind. Which is not the case here.

Qantas A321XLR at Sydney Airport
A Qantas Airbus A321XLR at Sydney Airport. Matt Graham.

Qantas will eventually have long-haul configured A321XLRs

Once Qantas does eventually operate a sub-fleet of A321XLRs designed for long-haul flying, I’m sure Brisbane-Manila will be one of the first routes to see them. (Hopefully, Melbourne-Bali will follow as that’s currently on a Boeing 737.)

These planes will also allow Qantas to eventually open up new routes like Adelaide-Singapore or Canberra-Singapore, which don’t quite have enough demand to fill a larger jet.

But until that sub-fleet arrives, if I needed to fly from Brisbane to Manila, I’d be flying Qantas via Sydney for the Airbus A330. Or choosing another airline.

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I thought these jets were meant to be exclusively used for short haul flights?

Domestic routes and internatonal Regional flights which dont have heavy traffic - so called "thin" routes
Initially the XLR is used domestically for crew adjustment and familiarisation but South east Asia would be perfect for the A321XLR
BNE-MNL was announced as the first international route for the A321XLR I think today 26/2/26. XLR will take over from the A330 in later October 2026

Apparently 16 out of the 48 XLR on order will have lie flat bed and will arrive from 2028
The current 4 (VH-OGA, OGB, OGC and OGD) do not have lie flat beds.

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I have an upcoming flight in December from BNE to MNL (QF97 & 98) which is ordinarily operated by a A330-200 five times a week but Qantas has sent me an updated itinerary which now lists both flights being operated by a A321neo (I'm assuming its the XLR as its the only in the fleet.

This is rather frustrating as they are selling business class seats at the price of a lie flat seat when now all you'll get is a recliner and a short haul economy cabin with two toilets for 180 passengers on a 8 hour flight... I thought these jets were meant to be exclusively used for short haul flights?

Far from ideal.

Can you re-route via Sydney?

Otherwise you might look into refunding the ticket and seeing what other options there are. I’d reckon you’d be entitled to a full refund under ACL, although QF is usually pretty good at being proactive on those things.

Unless, of course, the new 321 with flat beds is out by then!

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Far from ideal.

Can you re-route via Sydney?

Otherwise you might look into refunding the ticket and seeing what other options there are. I’d reckon you’d be entitled to a full refund under ACL, although QF is usually pretty good at being proactive on those things.

Unless, of course, the new 321 with flat beds is out by then!

As someone else points out the flat bed varient is not launching till 2028. I just can't believe that in December they would reduce capacity to Manila, last time I flew the route the flights were full.

Hoping to avoid flying through Sydney tbh but also can't stand the idea of being stuck on a domestic narrow body for 8 hours...

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Discussed briefly in the QF results thread.
Seems to commence on 25 Oct as a daily service rather than 5/wk.

Agreed that I'd be rather peeved paying what QF charges and not getting a lie flat bed on the overnight.

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As someone else points out the flat bed varient is not launching till 2028. I just can't believe that in December they would reduce capacity to Manila, last time I flew the route the flights were full.

Hoping to avoid flying through Sydney tbh but also can't stand the idea of being stuck on a domestic narrow body for 8 hours...

Are you in business? Advice above based on a business ticket. If you’re in economy might not have the same options to re-route or refund.

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Are you in business? Advice above based on a business ticket. If you’re in economy might not have the same options to re-route or refund.

No the universe seems to be on my side, we initially thought about using points for business but then just decided to pay for economy seats instead. We are flying to Europe in businesses from Manila so its not all bad but still. 2 loos and 180 people for 8 hours is just ridiculous!

I can't believe Qantas would pretend that what most airlines would consider premium economy they should be able to sell for 4-5k return.

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Discussed briefly in the QF results thread.
Seems to commence on 25 Oct as a daily service rather than 5/wk.

Agreed that I'd be rather peeved paying what QF charges and not getting a lie flat bed on the overnight.

Ah I missed this clearly but I guess that makes some sense and would free up a wide body for a higher yield market. PAL also flies an A321neo on the route so it's not like theres stiff competition, except PAL has 31 fewer seats on their jets...

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However the A321 is 7 metres longer than the A320neo (hence the 1 in the 321)

Logically this makes the A320 2240m long ... they don't look over 2km long!

As an aside ... QF must have upgraded their A332's, it's been a while but last time I walked past J on an A332 it was all Recliner J. I kinda/sorta assumed they were just hanging on with the ancient interiors (nearly domestic spec) 'til the 'planes aged out.

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Logically this makes the A320 2240m long ... they don't look over 2km long!

Sure but I deleted my post as PAL has the A321, not the A320 but the A321 is 7m longer than the A320.

From QF: (Fully flat J seats started appearing in the A330s over 10 years ago)

View image at the forums

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As an aside ... QF must have upgraded their A332's, it's been a while but last time I walked past J on an A332 it was all Recliner J

Que??

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