- Jun 8, 2010
Oh goody, here is one old bu%%er ready to go as soon as my AZ vaccination is complete.Well that means they open the borders for the 2% who have been vaccinated, so we are talking about the elderly, the sick and front line workers. How many in that group are going to be travelling and if there are government travel alerts will anyone be able to get travel insurance?
I did a lot of work in aged care a few years back and falls were no 1 or 2 of the primary causes for hospitalisation of residents, alongside medications related problems. Doubt that Covid has changed any of that.You do realise even before you cleaned the gutters that getting out of bed you had a higher risk of falling on the way to get the ladder and dying right Falling is a HUGE risk factor, so we should all just stay in bed.
Problem with "informed choice" is that choices are often informed by innumerate ignorance. And then politicians start to pander to it.I don't have an issue with the information being widely reported, allowing informed choice.
QED.The USA administered 4.6 million doses of the vaccine yesterday. If they had been Oxford, up to 31 people would die from clotting as a direct result of the vaccine.
sorry but, what on EARTH are these numbers?I don't have an issue with the information being widely reported, allowing informed choice. The USA administered 4.6 million doses of the vaccine yesterday. If they had been Oxford, up to 31 people would die from clotting as a direct result of the vaccine.
I think expecting people just accept that risk - 'take one for the team' so we can open borders - is perhaps unreasonable.
sorry but, what on EARTH are these numbers?
31 deaths from 4.6 million?
AU have come out and said 4-6 per million with 75% survival rates. (it. 1 - 1.5 deaths per million).
UK Have done OVER 20 Million doses and have had 19 deaths.
31 deaths from 4.6 million ????
Yep that would change my attitude pretty quickly.This is what we need to see
Scott Morrison flags allowing Australians to travel overseas and return home, without going into hotel quarantine, if they are vaccinated against COVID-19.www.abc.net.au
It may be the carrot that is needed. I’m totally pro-vac, have no issue taking any of them, however even I am starting to think “what’s the point?”
It also assumes that those who want to be vaccinated can actually be vaccinated.The point will be that they will start letting people in like this to begin with and studies have shown that there is a small (but present) chance that those vaccinated could be completely asymptomatic carriers and in turn unknowingly infect others. So it will happen. Plus I’m sure some people will forge vax docs - a la India with its issues with testing docs - same deal.
That’s why they are beginning to reintroduce things like ‘Australia must be prepared to see 1000’s of cases a week’ when we start up again. But it won’t really matter because what the vaccines do very well is prevent against serious illness - which is what we need.
This is of course assuming the vaccines continue to prevent serious illness from all the mutations.
It also assumes that those who want to be vaccinated can actually be vaccinated.
Three months ago I was six months away from vaccination. Today I’m eight months away from receiving my first shot. And that’s probably a best case scenario.