Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

mviy

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If people are eligible for vaccination in other countries might be time to arrange a holiday, get the vax and come back to Oz afterwards. Maybe they could have flights for people who have been vaccinated and know they don't need special handling or quarantine.
That’s assuming you can get exemption to leave and don’t mind trying for months to get back to Australia.
 

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I do love a good meme even if the numbers are not quite right lol i'd happily have AZ today

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I would happily take AZ, Pfizer or Moderna, all 3 linked to clots now but minuscule and mostly treatable
 

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Health Minister Greg Hunt has responded to a bombshell request from the UN Human Rights Committee for Australia to return a citizen stuck overseas.

The committee on Thursday made the request as it considers if Australia’s strict pandemic border rules breach international law, through a test case brought by stranded Aussie Jason George.

It requested Australia “facilitate and ensure” the return of Mr George, who is being represented by star human rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson QC.
 
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Health Minister Greg Hunt has responded to a bombshell request from the UN Human Rights Committee for Australia to return a citizen stuck overseas.

The committee on Thursday made the request as it considers if Australia’s strict pandemic border rules breach international law, through a test case brought by stranded Aussie Jason George.

It requested Australia “facilitate and ensure” the return of Mr George, who is being represented by star human rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson QC.
I've been following this on a relevant closed FB group. UN ruled in favour of stranded passengers.
 

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Watching ScoMo...."I'm not going to put at risk the way Australians are living currently" ....I like to revise my prediction not 2021, not 2022, probably not 2023... :(
 

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The Aus govt will have a tough time defending fact they have allowed so many non citizens - celebrities, tennins/sports players, medivacs, non PR extended family members in, whilst there are citizens that cant get a flight or HQ place.
 

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Whilst most of us here on AFF don't like the level of travel restrictions, let's face it: most of the people annoyed about the people stranded overseas are going to be those people themselves and their families, plus those who feel the urge for one reason or another to travel and that so many being still stranded overseas is holding those plans back. This is still a minority of the population.

Sure, I don't think most would like the preferential treatment given to non-citizens, allowing celebrities to quarantine in luxury rather than in a hotel room like everyone else etc. but it seems that keeping the borders closed means a lot more to most Australians than that.

The governments have had plenty of time to scale up hotel quarantine to say 5-10k places per week per state but they haven't done it. The political will to scale things up has not been there.

Until the benefits of opening up outweigh the risks in the view of the politicians unfortunately the borders are going to remain closed. We may not like it, but being in the minority there's not much we can do about that.
 

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The Aus govt will have a tough time defending fact they have allowed so many non citizens - celebrities, tennins/sports players, medivacs, non PR extended family members in, whilst there are citizens that cant get a flight or HQ place.
Dollars to donuts vaccinated tennis players to AO next year fly in quarantine free. If we get same consideration??????????????????
 

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home quarantine with alot more throughput of people coming in would be markedly more acceptable, but ultimately ...

say with vaccine you can travel, shoot up anyone that wants it, anddddddddddd get the gov out of our lives again
 

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Considering the very low number of people who will get vaccinated due to the clotting scare, seems actually reasonable that allow vaccinated travelers to be allowed to go overseas and return with home quarantine

not like there will be 1000's willing to travel overseas with home quarantine still required and vaccination a requirement.
 

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Ankle bracelet option for home quarantine

Whilst I wouldn't enjoy wearing an ankle bracelet, if it's the difference between travelling or not, I would do it. It'll be interesting to see if anything can get agreed at National Cabinet or not.

They really need to work to boost hotel quarantine numbers in addition to working towards having a home quarantine option.
 

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I see lots of reference to returning Australians, who are vaccinated in Australia. I wonder about those who are vaccinated (using vaccines that Australia has used), but are not vaccinated in Australia. Will they be forced into HQ? We shall have to wait for the details I suppose. What about partners of Australians who are vaccinated, but they're not Australian and they're not vaccinated in Australia (using vaccines that Australia has used). As always, the devil will be in the detail.
 

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I see lots of reference to returning Australians, who are vaccinated in Australia. I wonder about those who are vaccinated (using vaccines that Australia has used), but are not vaccinated in Australia. Will they be forced into HQ?
Well it depends on whether they can produce proof of their vaccinated status and whether the Australian government can trust that. Also they would need to prove they have somewhere appropriate to stay to do home quarantine. There are multiple hurdles that would need to be overcome.
 

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Well it depends on whether they can produce proof of their vaccinated status and whether the Australian government can trust that. Also they would need to prove they have somewhere appropriate to stay to do home quarantine. There are multiple hurdles that would need to be overcome.
Indeed, but based on their (near enough to) xenophobic policies thus far, I don't expect they will go down that path. I'd be happy to be wrong, of course. For now ........ we wait and see.
 

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Indeed, but based on their (near enough to) xenophobic policies thus far, I don't expect they will go down that path. I'd be happy to be wrong, of course. For now ........ we wait and see.
Well a vaccine passport from say the UK or the US for example, I would think would be trusted, but we will see.

What would be ideal is if there was some kind of rapid test to verify that someone has been vaccinated.
 

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Well a vaccine passport from say the UK or the US for example, I would think would be trusted, but we will see.

What would be ideal is if there was some kind of rapid test to verify that someone has been vaccinated.
US doesn't have a national register of vaccination status, just slips of paper according to which state the vaccination occurred in.
 

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It sounds like not this year (NZ window). Yet other countries will be online again. Australia is the new North Korea run by nanny state overlords. By November, a 3rd booster should be available.
I think trifecta jabbers should be given their wings to fly.

'A long way to go' .. States did NOT agree to allow self quarantine. Leaked out with a wimper this week. I wonder if this was why they gave the airlines taxpayer money a few weeks back. And States have not ramped up arrivals - I have not seen evidence of more stranded people getting home. Then a farcical risk assessment mentioning 1000's of beds with no published workings. So my hatred if firmly directed to State premiers, who spit in the face of Scomo who bankrolled jobslacker, Jobfreeze etc.

As an over 50, if I get AZ Jab, my expectation is a Covid greencard passport and travel to lesser countries close by like Bali and SE Asia with minimal on arrival expenses. I think NZ had two unexplained breakouts, say 7 months apart, so I will not assume that window will not close at a drop of a hat.
 

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nkle bracelet option for home quarantine

Whilst I wouldn't enjoy wearing an ankle bracelet, if it's the difference between travelling or not, I would do it. It'll be interesting to see if anything can get agreed at National Cabinet or not.

Didn't the National cabinet consider ankle bracelets back in November for home quarantine and they ruled it out ?
 

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