Qantas First Lounge Dress Code

[Red Roo]

I guess that rules out my mankini then.

With all due respect, a mankini would be considered both "beachwear" and an "offensive image"!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

While I don't usually like to quote "the rules", I'm making an exception in this case to clarify that point 10.7 in the Qantas Club Terms and Conditions applies to all Qantas operated lounges.

"Smart, casual dress standards apply as a minimum at all times and entry may be refused if customers do not meet that standard. Bare feet or clothing with offensive images or slogans are not acceptable. In addition, individual lounges may have Club Rules regarding specific items of clothing which are not acceptable. Individual lounge managers will have discretion to administer these standards as they reasonably deem appropriate in the circumstances."

NB/ "Club Rules" is referring to the Qantas Domestic Lounge Dress Guidelines.

This thread relates to the dress code in the MEL/SYD First Class lounges. While platinum frequent flyers entering the F lounge may possibly be bound by the club rules, revenue F passengers are not. Their access is independent of section 10.

 

[DC3]

Hi gurus

I am flying with Jestar to HKT soon and am a platinum QFF memeber. Do you know if there is a qantas first dress code?? I am not going to dress up like a total bum but was thinking sport chic; nice runners, polo and shorts- would they let me in??

There's another thread that may give you a giggle. Not specifically First Lounge dress code for Jetstar, but .....

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....ntas-club-dress-standards-stubbies-28470.html

 

[RichardMEL]

I guess that rules out my mankini then.

Maybe BA will be fine with it in the Concorde Room at LHR T5?

 

[DC3]

I guess that rules out my mankini then.

Something like this?:

 

[juddles]

... While platinum frequent flyers entering the F lounge may possibly be bound by the club rules, revenue F passengers are not......

Not sure I follow this train of thought? Can you elaborate? I do not understand why different dress rules would apply to pax depending on how they obtained their ticket?

 

[JohnK]

I guess that rules out my mankini then.

And thongs?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Not sure I follow this train of thought? Can you elaborate? I do not understand why different dress rules would apply to pax depending on how they obtained their ticket?

There shouldn't be different rules, but the rules, if any, should be determined by the passengers for whom the lounge was intended, and who are buying the tickets. That's revenue F class passengers.

The last thing an F class passenger wants is an economy class passenger, with access via platinum status, telling them what they can and can't wear. The F class passenger will simply transfer their ticket to another airline if that's the case.

 

[Red Roo]

This thread relates to the dress code in the MEL/SYD First Class lounges. While platinum frequent flyers entering the F lounge may possibly be bound by the club rules, revenue F passengers are not. Their access is independent of section 10.

While there are no specific rules for First Lounges, bare feet or wearing clothing with highly offensive images/slogans may have Lounge Mangers exercising their discretion regardless of access entitlement.

Of course we're taking about extreme circumstances, and I'm yet to learn of customers being denied entry to a First Lounge based on the above.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

While there are no specific rules for First Lounges, bare feet or wearing clothing with highly offensive images/slogans may have Lounge Mangers exercising their discretion regardless of access entitlement.

Of course we're taking about extreme circumstances, and I'm yet to learn of customers being denied entry to a First Lounge based on the above.

I agree - bare feet can be excluded on safety grounds, and offensive images or slogans could in some circumstances contravene one of a number of laws (state or federal), and would be right to be excluded. Others would contravene widely accepted cultural attitudes.

 

[TonyHancock]

Maybe BA will be fine with it in the Concorde Room at LHR T5?

No problems at all. I am in the CCR as I type....although dressed a little more demurely.

And thongs?

Good lord no. Have you no dress sense? A mankini is accompanied by Salvatore Ferragamo Custom Parigi Drivers.

 

[maninblack]

In addition, individual lounges may have Club Rules regarding specific items of clothing which are not acceptable. Individual lounge managers will have discretion to administer these standards as they reasonably deem appropriate in the circumstances."

Surely for the certainty of passengers rules should be consistent, if lounges have varying rules and apply different standard to each other then this should be made known.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Surely for the certainty of passengers rules should be consistent, if lounges have varying rules and apply different standard to each other then this should be made known.

I think in the F lounges, revenue passengers are in a different strand than the upgraded or privileged WPs etc. Personally I think this is as it should be.

 

[maninblack]

I think in the F lounges, revenue passengers are in a different strand than the upgraded or privileged WPs etc. Personally I think this is as it should be.

Red Roo was quoting the general lounge rules and that was what I was referring to. Ideally the discussion belongs in the 'thongs and singlets' thread but came up here.

 

[RichardMEL]

There shouldn't be different rules, but the rules, if any, should be determined by the passengers for whom the lounge was intended, and who are buying the tickets. That's revenue F class passengers.

The last thing an F class passenger wants is an economy class passenger, with access via platinum status, telling them what they can and can't wear. The F class passenger will simply transfer their ticket to another airline if that's the case.

huh? since when is one passenger (of any sort) telling another what to wear? I'm lost.

and if "revenue F passengers" (and this is a group that can be different from time to time I suspect) were to determine, you get the same issue anyway because everyone's standards are different. Just because I buy a F fare doesn't mean I have any more right than anyone else to tell someone else how to dress or act (IMHO).

Maybe the problem is calling it a First Class lounge, when the reality is that it's the "First and OWE lounge"

Anyway the company that provides the service (QF) can determine whatever policies they like.

Why don't we, the paying passenger, tell QF how many SC's to give us on a given fare type? Yes, I'll have 3600 SC's for a discount Y MELSYD fare please (on JQ).

 

[RichardMEL]

No problems at all. I am in the CCR as I type....although dressed a little more demurely.

Please share pictures the first passenger in a mankini allowed into the lounge...

 

[RichardMEL]

I think in the F lounges, revenue passengers are in a different strand than the upgraded or privileged WPs etc. Personally I think this is as it should be.

They are in terms of services like spa bookings, First hosts and the like, but rules for access to, and inside the lounge? the same as far as I know.

I've certainly never been denied, for example, a seat to dine or champagne or whatever just because I didn't have a (paid) F boarding pass.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Here's hope the First lounge dress code is on the agenda at the next lounge manager's meeting.

huh? since when is one passenger (of any sort) telling another what to wear? I'm lost.

and if "revenue F passengers" (and this is a group that can be different from time to time I suspect) were to determine, you get the same issue anyway because everyone's standards are different. Just because I buy a F fare doesn't mean I have any more right than anyone else to tell someone else how to dress or act (IMHO).

Maybe the problem is calling it a First Class lounge, when the reality is that it's the "First and OWE lounge"

Anyway the company that provides the service (QF) can determine whatever policies they like.

Why don't we, the paying passenger, tell QF how many SC's to give us on a given fare type? Yes, I'll have 3600 SC's for a discount Y MELSYD fare please (on JQ).

It was kind of putting 2+2 together to get 5.

If the dress code is designed for the comfort and enjoyment of guests, then the guests consulted should be those for whom the lounge is designed. Should an economy or business class passenger, entering the lounge via status, be in a position to make a call as to whether the dress code is revisited, or needing to be changed? I don't believe an economy/business passenger should get to change the clothing of a first class passenger for the one or two hours they might share a lounge.

I wholly suspect the majority of F passengers simply won't care enough about what others are doing, to demand a discussion on dress codes. By and large everyone in the lounge is dressed appropriately, so unless there is demand, why change?

While it is true that a company can determine whatever policies they like, the reality is perhaps a little bit different. If everyone is happy enough with the status quo, why would you introduce a dress code for the sake of it and potentially lose tens of thousands of dollars in revenue? my friend in the sweat pants... she'd fly another airline rather than be told she's not allowed entry.

Flying first class is supposed to be a tailored, streamlined experience. You don't have to worry about queues, you don't have to worry about baggage or hand luggage. Why should you need to worry whether your shoes/sandals/flip-flops will be allowed?

Domestic lounges... well golden handcuffs for starters, and i suspect it was all a bit of a marketing ploy to promote the 'exclusivity' of the lounge and generate membership sales.

 

[TomVexille]

Why don't we, the paying passenger, tell QF how many SC's to give us on a given fare type? Yes, I'll have 3600 SC's for a discount Y MELSYD fare please (on JQ).

But you'll still need another 3~

 

[JohnPhelan]

There shouldn't be different rules, but the rules, if any, should be determined by the passengers for whom the lounge was intended, and who are buying the tickets. That's revenue F class passengers.

The last thing an F class passenger wants is an economy class passenger, with access via platinum status, telling them what they can and can't wear. The F class passenger will simply transfer their ticket to another airline if that's the case.

Err, no, it's a Qantas lounge, so Qantas sets the rules, not the passengers. As Red Roo says, ALL Qantas lounges has the "smart casual" requirement.