Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

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If states are anything to go by, there is zero reason to believe that if Labor win a federal election the borders would open any quicker. Albanese has not stated a policy, and WA, Qld and Vic are quick to have snap lockdowns. Now, if Gladys was running for PM we'd all know the position, she is all for opening up asap.

The Feds need the states to get on board with a policy and that is where the problem lies, only NSW is keen to open up and understands that a zero case goal is unrealistic even if 100% of people are vaccinated.
 

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The public, or most of it, is now getting sick of hearing pollies say we've saved you, while tourism businesses go down the toilet.
The tourism industry is furious with the WA and QLD governments and yet they were re-elected easily. Whilst I think a majority of AFF members are furious about the impact on the tourism industry, clearly the public at large have been shown to be in favour of closures.
think SIN will be very soon, plus UK, USA this year.
I hope you're right and that would be consistent with suppression, but whilst the Feds give lip service to saying suppression is still the policy, their actions are inconsistent with that.
 
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for who ?

The public, or most of it, is now getting sick of hearing pollies say we've saved you, while tourism businesses go down the toilet.
The public and gutless politicians Just keep the nasty foreigners out. If there was a will there would already be different treatment based on risk by now. But there’s not.

I’ve read too many stories about bubbles with low risk countries that not only don’t eventuate - but there’s scant evidence that they’re even being considered in a serious manner. Prefer not to raise false hope. Three months is too soon.
 

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The Feds need the states to get on board with a policy and that is where the problem lies, only NSW is keen to open up and understands that a zero case goal is unrealistic even if 100% of people are vaccinated.
Is this the same NSW that cancelled the Bluesfest after a single case in Byron Bay?
 

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The public and gutless politicians Just keep the nasty foreigners out. If there was a will there would already be different treatment based on risk by now. But there’s not.
It's no surprise after 25 years of demonising refugees for political reasons by both sides.
 

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A snippet from an article below

'Australians who will be absent from key family events abroad because of the continuing ban - or miss seeing their young relatives grow up - took to social media to vent their fury at the lengthy delay as other countries open up.'

As and when countries open up, resentment will start to build in Australia over staying closed

Most people are accepting of borders being closed for health reasons, but they see right through the politics
 

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I get that people are upset. I'm one of them. I'm still yet to see any evidence that we've become the majority rather than an upset minority. Until that flips we're not likely to see a lot of change.
What gets me is how the press are too often framing overseas travel as "leisure" travel. Until we see the narrative build around family reunion, nothing much will change.
 

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Some are talking about family reunion a lot e.g. commentators on Sky News. For example, at least one of Andrew Bolt's kids is overseas that he would like to visit.
 

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What gets me is how the press are too often framing overseas travel as "leisure" travel. Until we see the narrative build around family reunion, nothing much will change.

I don't know if the government going on about how business travel should automatically get priority is helping much either? I don't think there's much sympathy for the line that business travel 'isn't really a holiday', or that it's 'more a chore than pleasure'. (In these circumstances any time out of Australia would be a welcome relief.)
 

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I think Qantas is now right on the money & we will be able to go almost anywhere in the world by mid Dec 2021, as long as you've had your shots.

However, I think instead of daily flights to LA from BNE, SYD, MEL, we might see Qantas start with say 3 or 4 a week & be routed via awful SYD other days. Demand will determine frequency & that all depends on govt announcements. If the govt says in July or August, everyone can go to UK, USA etc. if had shots, then that a decent lead time. If they wait until Oct, that's not much lead time.

So we can go to NZ now & Cook Islands is open to kiwis from next week (not sure if that means we can go to Cook Islands via NZ). Singapore, Fiji & many other places very soon. No restrictions now on us going to UK(no quarantine as long as have had shots) but we can't leave here, not sure why.
Not true at all, being vaccinated does not avoid you to skip quarantine in the UK. Also, unless you're on a direct flight to here from Australia or going via SIN then you certainly will be either self isolating or in hotel quarantine.
The tourism industry is furious with the WA and QLD governments and yet they were re-elected easily. Whilst I think a majority of AFF members are furious about the impact on the tourism industry, clearly the public at large have been shown to be in favour of closures.

I hope you're right and that would be consistent with suppression, but whilst the Feds give lip service to saying suppression is still the policy, their actions are inconsistent with that.
The domestic tourism industry is booming, prices are up across the board and people are paying them so the impact is not as big as suggested.
 

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Once you leave for "business reasons" there is naught to stop you from tacking a holiday onto the trip.

If there are suitable procedures in place such as vaccination with home quarantine on return or pre-paid HQ (if not vaccinated or coming form high risk location) then it really shouldn't matter why someone wants to travel. For many people their friends overseas are more like family than blood relatives.
 

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I get that people are upset. I'm one of them. I'm still yet to see any evidence that we've become the majority rather than an upset minority. Until that flips we're not likely to see a lot of change.
bloody focus groups !!! They (Galaxy I think it was) used to phone me on landline, for how I'd want to vote. I wish they would phone me on when to open borders(yesterday, will probably not be an option with automated call)
 

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Not true at all, being vaccinated does not avoid you to skip quarantine in the UK. Also, unless you're on a direct flight to here from Australia or going via SIN then you certainly will be either self isolating or in hotel quarantine.

The domestic tourism industry is booming, prices are up across the board and people are paying them so the impact is not as big as suggested.
can't find the article which said Australians can get into UK from 17 May without quarantine, but this similar ........

 

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Once you leave for "business reasons" there is naught to stop you from tacking a holiday onto the trip.

If there are suitable procedures in place such as vaccination with home quarantine on return or pre-paid HQ (if not vaccinated or coming form high risk location) then it really shouldn't matter why someone wants to travel. For many people their friends overseas are more like family than blood relatives.
They could at least start by allowing vaccinated Australian residents to go overseas and set up extra, separate HQ for their return (over and above the existing caps) and collect good data over a couple of months as to risk of moving to home quarantine. But as long as risk is >0.001% the appetite for an approach like this is not there.
 

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