DJ 737 Business Class

[greenfish]

This is because the airliner was deployed into service halfway through a refit due to the Qantas issue.

Ah, OK. So what happens next? Do they remove IFE for everyone else?

 

[Noob]

Ah, OK. So what happens next? Do they remove IFE for everyone else?

Not all the seats have been replaced with the new black ones, the seats with IFE are the old blue seats - the new IFE is still yet to be announced, but is, "in the works".

 

[docjames]

This is because the airliner was deployed into service halfway through a refit due to the Qantas issue.

Do you have a source for this statement?

 

[greenfish]

Not all the seats have been replaced with the new black ones, the seats with IFE are the old blue seats - the new IFE is still yet to be announced, but is, "in the works".

Surely though, if they pulled the plane back into service, they'd already know what IFE they'd be fitting - and have installed it in "Row 3" and business class?

 

[Noob]

Surely though, if they pulled the plane back into service, they'd already know what IFE they'd be fitting - and have installed it in "Row 3" and business class?

They haven't released the new IFE yet, or announced what it is - It has been said to be "A new, innovative IFE solution" and "The best in the pacific" by Borghetti.

That's as much as anyone knows, sadly

Do you have a source for this statement?

It was stated by a VA employee on a pilots forum

 

[docjames]

It was stated by a VA employee on a pilots forum

If it's the one i'm thinking of, that site is notoriously unreliable!:shock:

 

[Noob]

If it's the one i'm thinking of, that site is notoriously unreliable!:shock:

lol it is a lil' dodgy hehe
Maybe a rep can confirm, not really worth their trouble but if they are around?

 

[lovestotravel]

Surely though, if they pulled the plane back into service, they'd already know what IFE they'd be fitting - and have installed it in "Row 3" and business class?

The IFE won't be a fixed solution or it would be in the seats/planes already!

As for being "the best in the Pacific" good luck trying to beat the SQ system or the NZ system with a portable solution

 

[Noob]

The IFE won't be a fixed solution or it would be in the seats/planes already!

As for being "the best in the Pacific" good luck trying to beat the SQ system or the NZ system with a portable solution

Portable technology is becoming more flexible and has the ability to store just as much content as the best fixed systems! Virgin America's red system is being replaced with seat back mounted tablets, unwired, with more content then the previous system. There won't be such thing as problems with IFE, if your tablet is not working it is replaced.

 

[greenfish]

Portable technology is becoming more flexible and has the ability to store just as much content as the best fixed systems! Virgin America's red system is being replaced with seat back mounted tablets, unwired, with more content then the previous system. There won't be such thing as problems with IFE, if your tablet is not working it is replaced.

The one benefit IFE brings over BYO entertainment is the ability to use it "Gate to Gate". This seems pretty challenging with an after seat manufacture portable solution - would require very strong bonding to the seat backs to ensure the tablet doesn't not become a lethal projectile in the event of an accident.

The only thing that would really win me over would be onboard internet access....

 

[Noob]

The one benefit IFE brings over BYO entertainment is the ability to use it "Gate to Gate". This seems pretty challenging with an after seat manufacture portable solution - would require very strong bonding to the seat backs to ensure the tablet doesn't not become a lethal projectile in the event of an accident.

The only thing that would really win me over would be onboard internet access....

What's stopping the custom designed mount holding them in place?

 

[pshepvic]

lol it is a lil' dodgy hehe
Maybe a rep can confirm, not really worth their trouble but if they are around?

This was discussed in another thread (or maybe earlier in this one, can't remember). I flew on VH-VOT and only row 1-3 was refitted and the rest was old seating with LTA. The crew indicated that it had not been finished with the refit and would be completed when it goes back to NZ.

This was in the middle of the week following the QF grounding and a couple of people said that it was due to the QF strike - the brought back the planes that were in the shop to put on extra flights. Makes sense really.

Once they are refitted completely the LTA will be gone as all the old seats from row 4 onwards will be gone.

 

[greenfish]

What's stopping the custom designed mount holding them in place?

If they can make that work, that'd great. It will still require significant rework to the existing seats to make a suitably strong mount; I'm not sure if it'd be much less than the work required to install fixed IFE.

I wonder how they'll charge 150+ tablets etc if they go for a portable solution? But a semi fixed solution would be good.

Personally, if I were DJ, I'd save the pennies, and just pinch the NZ system, and refit the planes the same way NZ did. It is good enough.

The Unique Selling Proposition I'd like to see DJ (or QF) present would be wifi - at least on the BNE/SYD/MEL/CBR flights, where uplinking HSPA should be possible.

 

[Jack Melon]

Here is a image of VH-VOT one that was getting re-configured, but when the Qantas grounding was announced, they put her back into service immediately with a 3 config, Business Class, row 3 of the new economy seats and row 4-30 of the old seats.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

FWIW, I think DJ are refitting to a budget and reusing exixting seats (row 4 back perhaps).

On the weekend, I had a refit BNE-MEL which were the old seats (row 7), still with ife but re-upholstered in the the new black (charcoal??) leather. I also had row 3 with the new (much comfier) seats in the new leather without the ife but I also had a refit SYD-OOL with the old blue seats, but J fitted (presumably one pulled back into service to suit the QF debarcle).

So if DJ intends to refit all the seats with the newies, why re-upholster them now?? That doesn't make financial sense. I'm tending to believe the new seats will be used on select rows only and the older (far less comfier seats) re-upholstered and refitted to the rear of the aircraft. They also must be planning to either keep the old screens with the new ife system, or have a fixed unit (or a fixed, mount/charger for portable ife) to cover the big bloody hole in the brand new upholstery!

 

[oz_mark]

FWIW, I think DJ are refitting to a budget and reusing exixting seats (row 4 back perhaps).

Maybe the budget doesn't extend to IFE :shock:

 

[Justchecking]

Well the situation I'm betting on is this.....it's an airline. And if there is one thing we know about airlines is that product upgrades are announced to much fanfare with a speedy rollout schedule. The reality somewhat fails to live up to the schedule though. DJ have been pretty good at rolling out the changes to deadline this year, but I guess some parts of it are going to be seen as less urgent than other parts. Maybe the backend of the bus...I mean....plane is one such part.

 

[pshepvic]

FWIW, I think DJ are refitting to a budget and reusing exixting seats (row 4 back perhaps).

On the weekend, I had a refit BNE-MEL which were the old seats (row 7), still with ife but re-upholstered in the the new black (charcoal??) leather. I also had row 3 with the new (much comfier) seats in the new leather without the ife but I also had a refit SYD-OOL with the old blue seats, but J fitted (presumably one pulled back into service to suit the QF debarcle).

So if DJ intends to refit all the seats with the newies, why re-upholster them now?? That doesn't make financial sense. I'm tending to believe the new seats will be used on select rows only and the older (far less comfier seats) re-upholstered and refitted to the rear of the aircraft. They also must be planning to either keep the old screens with the new ife system, or have a fixed unit (or a fixed, mount/charger for portable ife) to cover the big bloody hole in the brand new upholstery!

Yes it appears some are also being re-upholstered rather than replaced - maybe on newer aircraft? The one I had (VH-VOT) was definitely put back in service during the QF issue before it was finished, as row 4 back wasn't even re-upholstered.

I don't think it would be that hard to cover up the LTA hole - would just be a custom designed cover to clip in - either that or a new screen?!


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[MarkD]

VH-VOV has a similar setup with recovered seats, still L2A from row 5 back.. They offered us in row 3, plus PE Digiplayers

 

[Mal]

One thing i noticed. A plane that didn't have l2air previously was.completely decked out with new seats... ie with wings.

However those with l2air previously only have new seats in 3 and the rest re-upholstered.

Haven't been in enough to know for sure, but that's my take on things.

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