attention red roo - resolution of award bookings ex bkk and china

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just an update to let you know that I am still waiting for an answer from Qantas on this issue.

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I will keep you updated.

I watch this with great interest.

What I find very odd is that in a global marketplace, QF still tickets at point of departure. Surely it is costly to pay ticketing agents in all these far-flung countries to issue tickets? There must be some reason for this practice I am unaware of, as I can't think why QFA couldn't issue tickets in foreign currencies from AU. There must be a cost factor or a regulatory reason.

In addition to that, have you ever tried to refund a ticket out of SG or HK? It can take weeks to get your money back!
 
I watch this with great interest.

What I find very odd is that in a global marketplace, QF still tickets at point of departure. Surely it is costly to pay ticketing agents in all these far-flung countries to issue tickets? There must be some reason for this practice I am unaware of, as I can't think why QFA couldn't issue tickets in foreign currencies from AU. There must be a cost factor or a regulatory reason.

In addition to that, have you ever tried to refund a ticket out of SG or HK? It can take weeks to get your money back!

my understanding from what I have gathered is that their GSA in those cities (maybe they have a long contract??) don't have merchant back facilities to process on line.

which certainly makes more sense than being told it is a regulatory requirement (unique to Qantas). If it is indeed unique to QF then maybe the Aust government should impose similar regulatory requirements on Thai and Chinese airlines for their ticket sales ex AU?
 
my understanding from what I have gathered is that their GSA in those cities (maybe they have a long contract??) don't have merchant back facilities to process on line.

I believe the GSA in Bangkok is at least partially owned by Qantas.
 
nine and a half months since is thread was started, and we still don't have an official reply from red roo despite their assurance by PM the matter would be followed up.
 
nine and a half months since is thread was started, and we still don't have an official reply from red roo despite their assurance by PM the matter would be followed up.

They mentioned at the Qantas Cash lunch this was being dealt with.
 
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They mentioned at the Qantas Cash lunch this was being dealt with.

oh! did they say anything about time frames? or why it is required in the first place? (as opposed to check-in sighting the card)

i cannot understand how it can take this long to implement a policy to waive all assisted booking fees for these types of tickets? that takes only a matter of a few weeks. not 9 months.
 
CORRECTION

i need to issue a correction regarding my update post above.

i have reviewed the correspondence from red roo (via PM) and can find no assurance to follow up on this issue.

at the time, red roo said they had raised the matter with the relevant departments and that a solution was being looked into.

otherwise 'it is as it is'.

in follow up, i requested three things, that:

1) an official comment be made via this thread (as it affects more than one person)
2) the solution to this issue offered to me also be extended to all AFF members
3) qantas sales staff stop telling passengers that is is a local regulatory requirement if in fact that is not the case.

I don't know whether item 3 has been actioned or not, but the first two elicited no response.
 
They mentioned at the Qantas Cash lunch this was being dealt with.

oh! did they say anything about time frames? or why it is required in the first place? (as opposed to check-in sighting the card)

i cannot understand how it can take this long to implement a policy to waive all assisted booking fees for these types of tickets? that takes only a matter of a few weeks. not 9 months.
They did not give any time frames; their response is exactly as posted above from memory.
 
Why is it so hard? Why not give your customers simples choices!

1) You front up to the QF office in the city you are flying out of, or
2) You *MUST* present the CC used for the booking upon checkin - no CC presented=no boarding; if you want to fly, you need to pay again at the airport.

Either of the above is acceptable to board your flight - you choose which is easiest for you.

I had to book some CX & KA flights about a month ago, the KA flight was for my producer and she was flying a day later than I was. I fronted up to the CX counter a few days early (collecting an arriving colleague) and presented the CC to be verified so she would be allowed to board. As a precaution, I also checked again on the day of my flight, that all was ok for her flight they were happy to do so and she had no problems at all. Presented my CC for both flights - all smooth sailing.

Quite simply, if CX are happy to have me front up at the airport and present my CC for verification of flights booked through the CX TH website (including ones I'm not even on!), why the H**L can't QF extract a digit and do the same???!!!:evil:
 
in follow up, i requested three things, that:

1) an official comment be made via this thread (as it affects more than one person)
2) the solution to this issue offered to me also be extended to all AFF members
3) qantas sales staff stop telling passengers that is is a local regulatory requirement if in fact that is not the case.

I don't know whether item 3 has been actioned or not, but the first two elicited no response.

MEL_Traveler - seeing as you really have not made any progress at all on your items 1-3 (which I think is also worthy of being an item #4 itself, no communication or action in 9 months!) so maybe one of the members here who may have some contacts higher up the food chain in QF than red roo that they can provide to you. I wish I could help but I agree this needs to be escalated somehow.
 
MEL_Traveler - seeing as you really have not made any progress at all on your items 1-3 (which I think is also worthy of being an item #4 itself, no communication or action in 9 months!) so maybe one of the members here who may have some contacts higher up the food chain in QF than red roo that they can provide to you. I wish I could help but I agree this needs to be escalated somehow.

well... I have been given a solution.

but that's not the point. it is disappointing that qantas has chosen not to respond to a thread directly addressed to them. and, nine months later touches on the topic at an invite-only lunch but cannot update on here.

this is issue is essentially about the potential dissemination of inaccurate information (that it is a regulatory requirement... qantas refuses to address that issue so I'm beginning to wonder if it really is a regulatory issue?), the refusal to implement a simple solution (waive the assisted booking fees... and note that qantas is the ONLY airline in the world that i deal with that refuses to drop booking fees for services which cannot be competed on line), and finally, we get continually told that qantas has to cut costs... but what sort of effort are they making to increase revenue when you have to travel up to an hour EACH WAY across bangkok to get a cc sited, or half an hour each way in shanghai? I book cx of course. or TG. the money is there for QF to take but they don't seem to care.

i go back to the point... reason 93 should be that qantas will deliver service excellence to return QFi to profit! if I had a seamless experience with qf I'd fly them. but they sometimes seem determined to make travel as difficult as possible (no interlining of baggage on separate tickets, continually running out of catering, check in staff unaware they can interline tickets to oneworld, inconsistency of crews to the extent it can be uncomfortable to be on the plane, how many years to get the most basic principle of priority boarding right? and the list unfortunately goes on...)

qantas PR (red Roos) are in an enviable front line position to pick up these issues, at a strategic level, run with them via the various departments, and provide feedback here.

rant off now :)
 
Looking at next year and award BKK-SYD.2 pax in J.
QF-120000 points and THB-18230 + need to show card at BKK office in 48 hours.
AA-70000 points and $US95 + pay online.

Via HKG no change if an AA award.
for QF-156000 points but taxes drop to THB12170 but show card in 24 hours.
 
Looking at next year and award BKK-SYD.2 pax in J.
QF-120000 points and THB-18230 + need to show card at BKK office in 48 hours.
AA-70000 points and $US95 + pay online.

Via HKG no change if an AA award.
for QF-156000 points but taxes drop to THB12170 but show card in 24 hours.

So it's just a 'slight" difference for the same product... :shock:
My gosh.
 
almost one year on and still no reported solution to this issue. dummy booking still requires presentation of credit card.
 
almost one year on and still no reported solution to this issue. dummy booking still requires presentation of credit card.

Just call up and request to ticket in AUD. What's the big deal? Sure it's not ideal, but there is a solution.
 
almost one year on and still no reported solution to this issue. dummy booking still requires presentation of credit card.

Absolutely insane! QF could looking at offering a true "enhancement" here and actually help... Interesting concept I know!
 
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QF don't even seem to try to get bookings in Asia - they seem to rely on Australian residents booking ex-Australia and using return flights. Imagine if they put in a bit of effort to win over people in HKG, SIN and BKK!
 
QF don't even seem to try to get bookings in Asia - they seem to rely on Australian residents booking ex-Australia and using return flights. Imagine if they put in a bit of effort to win over people in HKG, SIN and BKK!

When you look at the ex-Asia prices, you will immediately understand why QF (or any airline) would prefer to sell ex-Australia

Happy wandering

Fred
 
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