Worse than feet on bulkheads

No pics but just got off the most feral effing flight we've ever been on from CBR to NAN. Toddlers in full belt, lazy parents just sitting there, people in bare feet and toddlers crawling up and down the isle (yuk, if only their parents knew) and we were in front row of economy - lesson for us.

This is not a pot at Fiji Airlines, service was fantastic, meal was fine and overall they were amazing. It's a pot at the parents who think it's ok for their little precious to run a muck. We've got kids, travel is hard but you have responsibilities as a parent. Apparently not these days.
 
No pics but just got off the most feral effing flight we've ever been on from CBR to NAN. Toddlers in full belt, lazy parents just sitting there, people in bare feet and toddlers crawling up and down the isle (yuk, if only their parents knew) and we were in front row of economy - lesson for us.

This is not a pot at Fiji Airlines, service was fantastic, meal was fine and overall they were amazing. It's a pot at the parents who think it's ok for their little precious to run a muck. We've got kids, travel is hard but you have responsibilities as a parent. Apparently not these days.

Yeah the antics on board my flight last year NAN-BNE were a real eye opener and a first for any flight Ive been on (incl lots of JQ flights).
 
Was on a 3 hours flights last week and a family of 3 reclined right after take off, the mum put her foot against the previous row. Had to ask the flight attendant to tell them to move thire seats upright for meals (international flight) and as soon as the meal service is finished they all reclined again until they got told to prepare for landing.
 
Was on a 3 hours flights last week and a family of 3 reclined right after take off, the mum put her foot against the previous row. Had to ask the flight attendant to tell them to move thire seats upright for meals (international flight) and as soon as the meal service is finished they all reclined again until they got told to prepare for landing.
At the risk of sounding like a crabby Nanna - half these inconsiderate people should be zapped with a taser
 
I struggling to explain the difference between that and the bulkhead footrests on QF PE? 🤷‍♂️
It’s not revolting like the people with their shoes & socks off … but it is a bit rude, albeit towards a public transport provider so we don’t care much. I mean if someone came to your house & put their shoes on your wall like that, you’d be pretty annoyed … but because it’s just a bus with wings, I personally don’t care, it happens on public transport & doesn’t affect other passengers like how feet on the seats do, so if QF have a problem with it I guess it’s up to QF to do something about it.
 
It’s not revolting like the people with their shoes & socks off … but it is a bit rude, albeit towards a public transport provider so we don’t care much. I mean if someone came to your house & put their shoes on your wall like that, you’d be pretty annoyed … but because it’s just a bus with wings, I personally don’t care, it happens on public transport & doesn’t affect other passengers like how feet on the seats do, so if QF have a problem with it I guess it’s up to QF to do something about it.
Yes, but my point is that the bulkhead foot net/rest in the QF PEY cabins directly places your shoes and feet on the bulkhead, immediately over the magazine holder.

So they actually designed their seat for ‘feet on bulkheads’.

There doesn’t seem to be the same level of concern for that?
 
Yes, but my point is that the bulkhead foot net/rest in the QF PEY cabins directly places your shoes and feet on the bulkhead, immediately over the magazine holder.

So they actually designed their seat for ‘feet on bulkheads’.

There doesn’t seem to be the same level of concern for that?
While I really, truly have a solid sense of not caring … to me, it’s different if there’s a piece of thing which says “put your feets here” as opposed to there being a wall which convention says you shouldn’t put your feets on.
 
While I really, truly have a solid sense of not caring … to me, it’s different if there’s a piece of thing which says “put your feets here” as opposed to there being a wall which convention says you shouldn’t put your feets on.
See the point, but i thought the outrage was because it was unhygienic or something?

I’m not sure where the ‘convention’ originated from? Or whether it exists at all given the PEY arrangement?
 
See the point, but i thought the outrage was because it was unhygienic or something?
Shoes off is that … shoes on is, IMHO, people ‘round here pretending to be outraged.

I’m not sure where the ‘convention’ originated from?
Not putting your shoes on someone’s wall is still pretty much the norm, I guess, even for Millennials & Gen Y?

Now I think of it, the vast majority of the population wouldn’t know what a QF PEY arrangement looks like (I only know about it from this thread).
 
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I’m not usually one for pax shaming, but this morning on an AS E175 SAN-LAS, pax in 1A had to be told three times to turn off his phone, and just when we started to push back decided he needed his AirPods from the overhead lockers (and at this point we had been sitting at the gate in excess of 20 minutes). He then reclines (I was behind him) and continues talking on the phone through his AirPods. He was then told a further two times to get off the phone. At the holding point he was threatened with removal. FA let the reclined seat slip (I guess there were bigger problems). He actually tried to argue he was using WiFi but it had not been activated yet.

Then during the flight there was a god awful smell, I like to think he shat his pants.
 
How do we feel about this? Sure it’s a baby but those shoes still look pretty filthy.

My first thought was why do this at all? Put your kids shoes in the bag. Plus its not a command tape so does it leave sticky residue on the seat or tray?

People are getting desperate for social media attention - next she will be sticking her babies forehead to something just for clicks :p
 
I’m not usually one for pax shaming, but this morning on an AS E175 SAN-LAS, pax in 1A had to be told three times to turn off his phone, and just when we started to push back decided he needed his AirPods from the overhead lockers (and at this point we had been sitting at the gate in excess of 20 minutes). He then reclines (I was behind him) and continues talking on the phone through his AirPods. He was then told a further two times to get off the phone. At the holding point he was threatened with removal. FA let the reclined seat slip (I guess there were bigger problems). He actually tried to argue he was using WiFi but it had not been activated yet.

Then during the flight there was a god awful smell, I like to think he shat his pants.
Hmmm.

In a similar vein had a flight a couple days ago HKG-BKK. Passenger immediately beside me across the aisle reclined their seat immediately on boarding, took their shoes off and put their feet in the magazine holder! (this wasn’t a bulkhead!)

Passenger continuously made demands during boarding of a full flight… wanted water and snacks. Took an extended toilet break as well.

During final checks as we were taxiing, demanded a blanket be brought to them.

At that stage crew asked them to put their seat upright, which they did. Until the crew member walked away.

Passenger looked at me and put their finger on the recline button and was about to push back, until I waggled my finger.

Seat reclined, of course, immediately wheels left the ground. Feet back in magazine pouch. Demands made before, during and after meal service for additional drinks, including just before landing during final cabin checks.

Extended toilet breaks with seat left in reclined position.

On arrival at the gate this passenger was at the front of the economy cabin before anyone else… quite some achievement given we were 7 rows from the bulkhead!!

Not sure I commend the crew for pandering to the passenger during final cabin checks. Otherwise I got the impression the crew were resigned to this type of behaviour. Sad.
 

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