Qantas Classic Reward & Upgrade Devaluation on 5 August 2025

[Kangol]

The figure is from July 2025. The fact that you think the 'average points balance changes daily' to any extent that is material to this conversation demonstrates a lack of understanding about how statistics operate at a population of that size.

Additionally, there would not be more than a couple of hundred people in Australia that are (a) willing to spend $20,000 on a First class cash ticket, (b) have over 190,000 QFF points available to redeem on a First class award ticket, and (c) have 'low interest' in the QFF program. To suggest this is the 'average QFF member' is, to use your term, 'comical'.

As I said before, it is perfectly fine to say you know a few people that fit into this category. For them, it truly is a bargain. Good for them. But this is not even remotely representative of the QFF membership base.

It's like saying Elon Musk got a bargain because someone offered a private yacht previously on sale for $750M to him for $700M. He saved $50M. Bargain!!! The only person who would describe that as a bargain is a fellow billionaire or someone using the term 'bargain' ironically.

Suddenly you are so certain of the precise number of people who fit a certain category ("a couple of hundred people in Australia"), yet you have no data, no proof and no idea that your belief is not the same thing as the truth.

It's taken you several rounds of backpedaling, diverting the topic and fabricating unrelated arguments to finally admit what was stated in the first place. See bold text.
If you had communicated properly in the first place, you wouldn't have needed to use straw man arguments or make false accusation - about a group who are purported to be representative of the entire QFF membership base.

Your posts have value for the community however, they are a great example of how communication failures are presented in an English language forum specific to a frequent flyer loyalty program, where others can learn from these written errors. You should be applauded for this.

 

[levelnine]

Suddenly you are so certain of the precise number of people who fit a certain category ("a couple of hundred people in Australia"), yet you have no data, no proof and no idea that your belief is not the same thing as the truth.

How many people do you personally know that fall into the category I mentioned above?

 

[nickfromeastryde]

Mods, can we please get the above spat stopped. Surely, 5 days after the devaluation took effect, there are more relevant posts to be read here that interest the vast majority of AFF members.

 

[drcam]

My take at the moment is that the Qantas frequent flyer scheme, by world standards, is uncompetitive and Qantas J is also uncompetitive by world standards. If they can get away with it, good for them. Crown in Melbourne had no problem offering blackjack where 22 is a draw - if it were offered in Vegas, no-one would play. But there are enough mugs in Melbourne that you can't even find a seat even on a table as coughpy as that.

 

[serfty]

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