Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[elanshin]

CAN-TPE is a surface sector where the flight out of TPE is months after the flight into CAN. So I am assuming its a stop. TPE-KUL is a flight. I stop in KUL for about 48 hours before the next leg to MCT.

Have you double check the distance? This seems like it'll be right on the limits. Also the computer sometimes doesn't like 2 surface segments even though theres no problems with it. (No PER to ADL flights? Even in economy?)

 

[madrooster]

Thanks for the advice, sounds like I need a good couple of hours and a stiff drink for nerves. Here's the itinerary I want

HKG-PER-ADL(surface and STOP)-KUL-CAN-TPE(surface and STOP)-KUL(stop)-MCT-AMS-LHR-JFK(STOP)-LHR(STOP)-DEL-HKG

I'll try the supervisor approach, see if I get any luck.

The routing and mileage are fine. This itinerary exceeds the limitations of the Amadeus pricing engine and will therefore require a supervisor to manually calculate the taxes and build the ticket.

 

[NCollas]

This is my first time trying to do the RTW business class trip combining two trips in the year. I come in under the miles limit and the sectors limit however I can't find a flight from BKK to Aus - only one from CGK - Jakarta. The flight from CGK is within the 24 hours as the one getting into will that gets into BKK - Will that be classed as a stop over? - in which case I am 1 stop over too much

 

[MEL_Traveller]

This is my first time trying to do the RTW business class trip combining two trips in the year. I come in under the miles limit and the sectors limit however I can't find a flight from BKK to Aus - only one from CGK - Jakarta. The flight from CGK is within the 24 hours as the one getting into will that gets into BKK - Will that be classed as a stop over? - in which case I am 1 stop over too much
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note that Jetstar is NOT eligible as it’s not oneworld.

Are you stopping over in Amman on the way back from London? Or is that just a transit?

If you are simply connecting it’s not a stopover so you’re within the limits.

Can you find any connecting flights from BKK to CGK? Even in economy? That would then protect your whole day’s travel, no worries if your separate arrangements for BKK-CGK get delayed or cancelled.

 

[NCollas]

note that Jetstar is NOT eligible as it’s not oneworld.

Are you stopping over in Amman on the way back from London? Or is that just a transit?

If you are simply connecting it’s not a stopover so you’re within the limits.

Can you find any connecting flights from BKK to CGK? Even in economy? That would then protect your whole day’s travel, no worries if your separate arrangements for BKK-CGK get delayed or cancelled.

Thanks, I did not realise Jetstar was not one world. I can't get a connecting flight from AMM to BKK within the 24 hours so it has to be stopover. I will try for BKK to CGK Thanks for your reply it is very helpful

note that Jetstar is NOT eligible as it’s not oneworld.

Are you stopping over in Amman on the way back from London? Or is that just a transit?

If you are simply connecting it’s not a stopover so you’re within the limits.

Can you find any connecting flights from BKK to CGK? Even in economy? That would then protect your whole day’s travel, no worries if your separate arrangements for BKK-CGK get delayed or cancelled.

is it ok to go through AMM as a transit and then as a stopover and should I look for a different port other then BKK as that was where I start?

 

[aikman]

This is my first time trying to do the RTW business class trip combining two trips in the year. I come in under the miles limit and the sectors limit however I can't find a flight from BKK to Aus - only one from CGK - Jakarta. The flight from CGK is within the 24 hours as the one getting into will that gets into BKK - Will that be classed as a stop over? - in which case I am 1 stop over too much
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Ineligible itinerary.

You cannot return to BKK at all because you started there.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

is it ok to go through AMM as a transit and then as a stopover and should I look for a different port other then BKK as that was where I start?

Yes that’s fine, except as aikman pointed out, you can’t return to Bangkok.

Have you looked at oman air? And out of places such as Amsterdam? As you are in business class that will shave hundreds of dollars off the departure tax out of London.

Cathay out of Brussels had some reasonable availability. Might be worth exploring the options.

 

[NCollas]

Yes that’s fine, except as aikman pointed out, you can’t return to Bangkok.

Have you looked at oman air? And out of places such as Amsterdam? As you are in business class that will shave hundreds of dollars off the departure tax out of London.

Cathay out of Brussels had some reasonable availability. Might be worth exploring the options.

Thanks, I think that I will go through Muscat to KL and then KL - Mel. Your help is greatly appreciated

 

[NCollas]

Yes that’s fine, except as aikman pointed out, you can’t return to Bangkok.

Have you looked at oman air? And out of places such as Amsterdam? As you are in business class that will shave hundreds of dollars off the departure tax out of London.

Cathay out of Brussels had some reasonable availability. Might be worth exploring the options.

this is my new Itinerary - any problems???

 

[OzziTravellers]

Hi everyone have done the oneworld award in economy twice before in 2011 and 2015 as a family of 4, but have been saving up the points for the other half and I to do it in Business somewhere between 2028-2030 (advance planning I know).

I think it meets all the (current) criteria, just after some feedback on the route, and some tips on how I should go about booking this when the time comes (will be LT gold by booking time as I know that impacts award availability lead times) - ie. tips on online vs call centre, lead times, partial booking and adding on, etc. etc.

MEL-NBO (stop 1) > LHR (transit) > DBV (stop 2) - self organised travel to MXP > PHL (transit) > PIT (stop 3) > DFW (transit) > RAP (stop 4) - self organised travel to BZN > YVR (stop 5) > SYD (transit) > MEL

Now this assumes I can get MEL-NBO on Qatar which I believe are difficult to get - so a backup option could be MEL-SYD-JNB and get our own way to Nairobi, however this is then a surface sector and we have two already - is that a hard limitation (if so I'm guessing we'd have to change our arrival and departure in Europe to be the same place)?

Thanks in advance for any replies!

 

[FlyingFiona]

Seeking opinions on my options as to whether to book two individual tickets or bother with the OWA hassle for what is pretty much an out and back itinerary. I'm Bronze wishing to fly Melbourne to Seville then surface sector and finish with Paris to Melbourne, all in J.

Currently have MEL-LHR booked with AY. LHR-MEL on AY has opened up for the return so I'm deciding whether to book it as a one way return or add onto existing booking for a OWA. Base points are the same for both options.

Advantage of OWA: I will add the London-Seville leg when it becomes available with IB. Can also hold out for a more optimal long haul routing to become available (and hopefully avoid the stinger of a depature tax from LHR).

Cons: have to pay 5K to add the return flights now, plus more if I find better routing down the track (which will probably cost more in taxes because I'm currently with AY). Stress of reticketing a OWA.

Don't think the pros outweigh the cons here. Any thoughts to the contrary? Perhaps I'm missing taking something into consideration?

 

[nickfromeastryde]

I would do OWA. First, as you noted, you can add the flight to Seville. You could also add some other European flights if you want. Finally and I stand to be corrected, you could add say CDG-LHR on the day of your LHR departure to avoid LHR departure taxes.

Need to ensure two OneWorld airlines used.

 

[FlyingFiona]

you could add say CDG-LHR on the day of your LHR departure to avoid LHR departure taxes.

Oh hadn't thought of that actually.

IIRC is has to be a stopover, otherwise they take the origin and destination, even if via somewhere else outside the UK.

Isn't it the opposite? To avoid the tax it can't be a stopover, it must be on the same day. (Just did a dummy booking to confirm.)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Oh hadn't thought of that actually.


Isn't it the opposite? To avoid the tax it can't be a stopover, it must be on the same day. (Just did a dummy booking to confirm.)

Goodness. Yes. Need to go to specsavers!!

I completely misread and thought the suggestion was to add LHR-CDG, not the other way around!!!

Post deleted. Thanks for correcting.

 

[NCollas]

Why is there such a discrepancy between the Qantas reward flight finder and when you ring up to book, nearly all the flights that I found on the finder have no business class seats available??.
Also I was told this evening that you Oman air doesn't offer business class seat for points - is that correct and if so then why are they on the reward finder site?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Why is there such a discrepancy between the Qantas reward flight finder and when you ring up to book, nearly all the flights that I found on the finder have no business class seats available??.
Also I was told this evening that you Oman air doesn't offer business class seat for points - is that correct and if so then why are they on the reward finder site?

If you find seats via the reward finder, are you clicking through? The reward finder is not in real time unfortunately.

Of course Oman Air offers business class for points. If a call centre agent doesn’t know the reason why the can’t book something they usually make something up, hoping 99% of people will accept it. (I got told once, in all seriousness, that Qantas didn’t fly SYD-MEL after 8am )

 

[NCollas]

If you find seats via the reward finder, are you clicking through? The reward finder is not in real time unfortunately.

Of course Oman Air offers business class for points. If a call centre agent doesn’t know the reason why the can’t book something they usually make something up, hoping 99% of people will accept it. (I got told once, in all seriousness, that Qantas didn’t fly SYD-MEL after 8am )

I keep being told by the call centre people that there is no availability yet I can book the single flight on the normal qantas website in BC so how can there be no availability?

 

[FlyingFiona]

Rang QF to add the flights to the booking and was told that it wouldn't price because the additional flights were outside of the bookable period. He told me that you have to complete travel within 12 months of making the original booking. Is that actually a thing??

(I did book my original flight a couple of weeks ago - it's for mid-Oct 2027 and now i'm trying to add early Nov flights.)

 

[Captain Halliday]

Rang QF to add the flights to the booking and was told that it wouldn't price because the additional flights were outside of the bookable period. He told me that you have to complete travel within 12 months of making the original booking. Is that actually a thing??

(I did book my original flight a couple of weeks ago - it's for mid-Oct 2027 and now i'm trying to add early Nov flights.)

Thee agent may be thinking of this…

13.3.4 Flight Reward tickets will be valid for one year from the original ticketed departure date and all travel must be completed within 12 months of first departure, unless otherwise specified.

But from the dates in your post, your ticket should be good until mid-Oct 2028.

HUACA.

 

[FlyingFiona]

Thee agent may be thinking of this…

13.3.4 Flight Reward tickets will be valid for one year from the original ticketed departure date and all travel must be completed within 12 months of first departure, unless otherwise specified.

But from the dates in your post, your ticket should been good until mid-Oct 2028.

HUACA.

Thanks. I did question him on it saying it was from ticketed departure date, but he was adament. HUACA it is. Appreciate your help!