Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[Aussiejosh]

Im looking for advice on how to incorporate two Canadian cities in a Oneworld RTW Award, Montreal to Vancouver.

We are looking at
BNE - LAX - JFK - YUL - YVR - NRT or HKG - BNE

It all seems to hang together except the YUL - YVR

Any help would be much appreciated

Have possibly thought about doing it the other way around of
BNE - HKG or NRT - YVR - JFK - YUL - JFK - LAX - BNE
but that's not ideal

Only easy way is to fly to new york and then catch cathay pacific from new york to Vancouver. Otherwise you'll have to use AA and there product ain't as great as cathay's

 

[Familyman1]

I'm trying to book the final couple of flights on a 280,000 point reward itinerary for Dec 19-Jan 20. The plan was to fly home from PVG to BNE via HKG with CX. I've been following availability for the last couple of weeks and there has been good availability during December. But availability went to nothing from 01.01.2020. I'm hoping there is just a delay in uploading seat availability for the new year. Has anyone noticed this in other years with CX, and if so, can you remember when they became available?

 

[Warren Mason]

I'm trying to book the final couple of flights on a 280,000 point reward itinerary for Dec 19-Jan 20. The plan was to fly home from PVG to BNE via HKG with CX. I've been following availability for the last couple of weeks and there has been good availability during December. But availability went to nothing from 01.01.2020. I'm hoping there is just a delay in uploading seat availability for the new year. Has anyone noticed this in other years with CX, and if so, can you remember when they became available?

Watching the flights and have noticed that too. Would be nice to be able to get home but I can think of worse things than being stuck in Europe

 

[Captain Halliday]

I can’t offer insight on that sector specifically, but as a broad comment availability gets tighter a couple of weeks either side of Lunar New Year in/out of poeta where Lunar New Year is celebrated.

So depending how late in Jan you are both looking I expect CX out of HKG will be more difficult than usual.

One to consider is the CX flight HKGxCNS-BNE. It often has good availability and when I’ve flown it the CNS-BNE sector has only ever been about one third full.

 

[Familyman1]

I can’t offer insight on that sector specifically, but as a broad comment availability gets tighter a couple of weeks either side of Lunar New Year in/out of poeta where Lunar New Year is celebrated.

So depending how late in Jan you are both looking I expect CX out of HKG will be more difficult than usual.

One to consider is the CX flight HKGxCNS-BNE. It often has good availability and when I’ve flown it the CNS-BNE sector has only ever been about one third full.

Thanks for your help. Those CX flight HKGxCNS-BNE are definitely worth considering. Interesting that they don't show up with HKG-BNE searches. The 2 flights have to be searched separately.

 

[Familyman1]

The WiKi on page 1 of this forum states that AY charges one fixed fuel surcharge of 125.00 EUR for up to six AY flights on a single award ticket. It looks to me that this is no longer the case based on what Qantas have charged me for my SIN-HEL-DUS(Stop)-MUC-HEL-PVG flights (all with AY economy; charge: S$592.90 for all taxes and surcharges). And matrix.itasoftware.com/ confirm that the carrier-imposed surcharge (YR) is S$462.00 for these four flights.

Am I interpreting the WiKi wrongly or is it out of date on Finnair?

 

[11sjw]

So it looks like the 11sjw family will go on a holiday at the end of the year. I can get us out of Perth (in J) on consecutive days (1 of us then 2 the next day). Given the way flights are disappearing I'm looking at booking them and adding the subsequent legs in a few weeks time, once dates open up.

Does anyone in here know what QF will charge me to add the extra legs onto the itinerary (obviously not including points and fees associated with the flying)? Will it be the service fee ($80) and the change fee (5k points) per person or will the service fee be waived as I can't make those changes online?

 

[Familyman1]

When flying in J, you will be charged a 5K/person change fee but not the Service Fee. Apparently Qantas sometimes forgets that changes to Business Class itineraries are free of the Service Fee so be ready to point this out if they try to charge you this.

 

[11sjw]

When flying in J, you will be charged a 5K/person change fee but not the Service Fee. Apparently Qantas sometimes forgets that changes to Business Class itineraries are free of the Service Fee so be ready to point this out if they try to charge you this.

Thank you. Will do.

Confirmed here for future reference under Change Booking Fees Schedule of Fees | Qantas AU

 

[Aus ATC]

The WiKi on page 1 of this forum states that AY charges one fixed fuel surcharge of 125.00 EUR for up to six AY flights on a single award ticket. It looks to me that this is no longer the case based on what Qantas have charged me for my SIN-HEL-DUS(Stop)-MUC-HEL-PVG flights (all with AY economy; charge: S$592.90 for all taxes and surcharges). And matrix.itasoftware.com/ confirm that the carrier-imposed surcharge (YR) is S$462.00 for these four flights.

I'm no expert on this, but the Wiki is for Point of Sale in Australia. Perhaps the carrier surcharges differ for PoS SIN.

 

[Familyman1]

I'm no expert on this, but the Wiki is for Point of Sale in Australia. Perhaps the carrier surcharges differ for PoS SIN.

That could be the explanation. I just checked what Qantas charge for BNE-SIN(Stop)-HEL-DUS(Stop, surface)-MUC-HEL-PVG and it is A$557.80 which is about $50 less than without the BNE-SIN. Thanks for that.

 

[Gerbud]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the great info.

I have searched online and looked at Wikis but I am still at a loss about one aspect of the Oneworld QFF RTW trip.

I am starting out from Perth, Australia and travelling to North America via Sydney crossing the Pacific. I will then take some internal flights in North America and plan to go back to Perth from JFK via Tokyo and then KL.

Only thing is I will be crossing the Pacific twice.

Will this be an issue? I know it is not permitted on the paid RTWs but I am not sure about the reward booking. I am reading varying information online.

Look forward to hearing from anyone who can help me out.

Thanks
G

 

[Captain Halliday]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the great info.

I have searched online and looked at Wikis but I am still at a loss about one aspect of the Oneworld QFF RTW trip.

I am starting out from Perth, Australia and travelling to North America via Sydney crossing the Pacific. I will then take some internal flights in North America and plan to go back to Perth from JFK via Tokyo and then KL.

Only thing is I will be crossing the Pacific twice.

Will this be an issue? I know it is not permitted on the paid RTWs but I am not sure about the reward booking. I am reading varying information online.

Look forward to hearing from anyone who can help me out.

Thanks
G

This is not a RTW award.

There is no requirement to go “round the world” which is why you won’t find it in the wiki.

 

[TanBish]

I know this has been addressed many pages ago on and off - but has anyone had any luck recently in getting Qantas CSO’s to add an AA leg in J when it’s not showing on QF website search but does show as available on AA website search?

 

[Aussiejosh]

I know this has been addressed many pages ago on and off - but has anyone had any luck recently in getting Qantas CSO’s to add an AA leg in J when it’s not showing on QF website search but does show as available on AA website search?

Yes. But it has to be the Business/First MileSAAver.

The AAnytime award does not go towards available qantas awards

 

[Gerbud]

This is not a RTW award.

There is no requirement to go “round the world” which is why you won’t find it in the wiki.

Ah okay thanks, so looks like all is in order then

 

[TanBish]

Yes. But it has to be the Business/First MileSAAver.

The AAnytime award does not go towards available qantas awards

Thanks aussiejosh - yes - I can see AA Business/First Mile Saaver seats available which is confirmed by Expert Flyer....but it’s not showing up on Qantas’ available classic awards. If I can see them on these two platforms, will a Qantas CSO assist in adding them to my Oneworld Award?

 

[Aussiejosh]

Thanks aussiejosh - yes - I can see AA Business/First Mile Saaver seats available which is confirmed by Expert Flyer....but it’s not showing up on Qantas’ available classic awards. If I can see them on these two platforms, will a Qantas CSO assist in adding them to my Oneworld Award?

Yes. All the times I've booked AA flights I check on their website first and then call qantas. Just be careful with AA site as I find if you click the next day when searching it will bring up different day. Best way I find is to click the flight and check the date that comes up in the upper left

 

[Warren Mason]

I have the first of our flights booked and I have selected the seats on the QF section but the CX seats are not able to be chosen. Can anyone tell me the process and when this can happen? I flew with the 5 years ago and from memory I wasn't able to choose seats till 48hrs prior to the flight. Is this the case? I would feel a lot safer I had the seats selected as that would indicate (to me at least) that CX should have acknowledged my flights. I have read a few horror stories of people turning up for flights to find the booking hadn’t been received from QF. Maybe it is just a trust issue .

 

[rock86]

I have the first of our flights booked and I have selected the seats on the QF section but the CX seats are not able to be chosen. Can anyone tell me the process and when this can happen? I flew with the 5 years ago and from memory I wasn't able to choose seats till 48hrs prior to the flight. Is this the case? I would feel a lot safer I had the seats selected as that would indicate (to me at least) that CX should have acknowledged my flights. I have read a few horror stories of people turning up for flights to find the booking hadn’t been received from QF. Maybe it is just a trust issue .

You received an e-ticket then?