"oneworld" award (132.4K/249.6K/318K/455K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

[madrooster]

You can't depart from Australia or Melbourne or Sydney or Brisbane or any other Australian port more than once.

That's not true. You can do something like BNE-SYD-HBA, HBA-SYD-HKG. You just can't go back to BNE again, and you can't depart internationally from the country of origin (ie. AU) again.

Examples:

BNE-SYD-HBA, HBA-SYD-HKG, HKG-SIN, SIN-SYD, SYD-AKL, AKL-BNE - not allowed (can't depart AU internationally more than once)
BNE-SYD-HBA, HBA-BNE-HKG, HKG-SIN, SIN-MEL-BNE - not allowed (can't go back to point of origin)

 

[geoffb78]

I note the rule reproduced below:

14.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply to oneworld Classic Flight Rewards:

(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary.

Are the transfer and stopover conditions mutually exclusive?

May I, for example, stopover in HKG, then transfer twice subsequently in HKG (e.g. BNE-HKG-xDOH-FRA-overland-MAN-xHKG-DPS-xHKG-NRT-BKK-SYD)?

All advice appreciated.

Thanks

Geoff.

 

[rock86]

May I, for example, stopover in HKG, then transfer twice subsequently in HKG (e.g. BNE-HKG-xDOH-FRA-overland-MAN-xHKG-DPS-xHKG-NRT-BKK-SYD)?

Yes

 

[BrettVale1]

Thanks for all these posts, they have been so helpful

Planning for our first 2xRTW in J class in June 2020. Starting early and getting my plans together. I am having problems working out the best way to get to the Anchorage and then Canada. We don’t need many flights but would love your help.

We want to do 1 week in Alaska and 3 weeks in Canada (With a stopover for a few days on the way). Happy to spend a few days in Hongkong on our way over or way home.

What’s the best way to get to Alaska (Anchorage), then to Vancouver (Canada), then back to Melbourne. Doesn’t seem to be a lot of options, that have direct flights.

Any help would be appreciated

MEL-HKG-?? Trying to get to Anchorage (Happy for a stop over somewhere for a few days)
ANC-YVR (Seems they all go through Seattle or LAX then back to YVR)
YVR-HKG-MEL (CX) (Happy for a stop over for a few days)

 

[JohnM]

AA flies DFW-ANC, LAX-ANC, PHX-ANC.

 

[motef]

Im looking for advice on how to incorporate two Canadian cities in a Oneworld RTW Award, Montreal to Vancouver.

We are looking at
BNE - LAX - JFK - YUL - YVR - NRT or HKG - BNE

It all seems to hang together except the YUL - YVR

Any help would be much appreciated

Have possibly thought about doing it the other way around of
BNE - HKG or NRT - YVR - JFK - YUL - JFK - LAX - BNE
but that's not ideal

 

[Aussiejosh]

Im looking for advice on how to incorporate two Canadian cities in a Oneworld RTW Award, Montreal to Vancouver.

We are looking at
BNE - LAX - JFK - YUL - YVR - NRT or HKG - BNE

It all seems to hang together except the YUL - YVR

Any help would be much appreciated

Have possibly thought about doing it the other way around of
BNE - HKG or NRT - YVR - JFK - YUL - JFK - LAX - BNE
but that's not ideal

Only easy way is to fly to new york and then catch cathay pacific from new york to Vancouver. Otherwise you'll have to use AA and there product ain't as great as cathay's

 

[Familyman1]

I'm trying to book the final couple of flights on a 280,000 point reward itinerary for Dec 19-Jan 20. The plan was to fly home from PVG to BNE via HKG with CX. I've been following availability for the last couple of weeks and there has been good availability during December. But availability went to nothing from 01.01.2020. I'm hoping there is just a delay in uploading seat availability for the new year. Has anyone noticed this in other years with CX, and if so, can you remember when they became available?

 

[Warren Mason]

I'm trying to book the final couple of flights on a 280,000 point reward itinerary for Dec 19-Jan 20. The plan was to fly home from PVG to BNE via HKG with CX. I've been following availability for the last couple of weeks and there has been good availability during December. But availability went to nothing from 01.01.2020. I'm hoping there is just a delay in uploading seat availability for the new year. Has anyone noticed this in other years with CX, and if so, can you remember when they became available?

Watching the flights and have noticed that too. Would be nice to be able to get home but I can think of worse things than being stuck in Europe

 

[Captain Halliday]

I can’t offer insight on that sector specifically, but as a broad comment availability gets tighter a couple of weeks either side of Lunar New Year in/out of poeta where Lunar New Year is celebrated.

So depending how late in Jan you are both looking I expect CX out of HKG will be more difficult than usual.

One to consider is the CX flight HKGxCNS-BNE. It often has good availability and when I’ve flown it the CNS-BNE sector has only ever been about one third full.

 

[Familyman1]

I can’t offer insight on that sector specifically, but as a broad comment availability gets tighter a couple of weeks either side of Lunar New Year in/out of poeta where Lunar New Year is celebrated.

So depending how late in Jan you are both looking I expect CX out of HKG will be more difficult than usual.

One to consider is the CX flight HKGxCNS-BNE. It often has good availability and when I’ve flown it the CNS-BNE sector has only ever been about one third full.

Thanks for your help. Those CX flight HKGxCNS-BNE are definitely worth considering. Interesting that they don't show up with HKG-BNE searches. The 2 flights have to be searched separately.

 

[Familyman1]

The WiKi on page 1 of this forum states that AY charges one fixed fuel surcharge of 125.00 EUR for up to six AY flights on a single award ticket. It looks to me that this is no longer the case based on what Qantas have charged me for my SIN-HEL-DUS(Stop)-MUC-HEL-PVG flights (all with AY economy; charge: S$592.90 for all taxes and surcharges). And matrix.itasoftware.com/ confirm that the carrier-imposed surcharge (YR) is S$462.00 for these four flights.

Am I interpreting the WiKi wrongly or is it out of date on Finnair?

 

[11sjw]

So it looks like the 11sjw family will go on a holiday at the end of the year. I can get us out of Perth (in J) on consecutive days (1 of us then 2 the next day). Given the way flights are disappearing I'm looking at booking them and adding the subsequent legs in a few weeks time, once dates open up.

Does anyone in here know what QF will charge me to add the extra legs onto the itinerary (obviously not including points and fees associated with the flying)? Will it be the service fee ($80) and the change fee (5k points) per person or will the service fee be waived as I can't make those changes online?

 

[Familyman1]

When flying in J, you will be charged a 5K/person change fee but not the Service Fee. Apparently Qantas sometimes forgets that changes to Business Class itineraries are free of the Service Fee so be ready to point this out if they try to charge you this.

 

[11sjw]

When flying in J, you will be charged a 5K/person change fee but not the Service Fee. Apparently Qantas sometimes forgets that changes to Business Class itineraries are free of the Service Fee so be ready to point this out if they try to charge you this.

Thank you. Will do.

Confirmed here for future reference under Change Booking Fees Schedule of Fees | Qantas AU

 

[Aus ATC]

The WiKi on page 1 of this forum states that AY charges one fixed fuel surcharge of 125.00 EUR for up to six AY flights on a single award ticket. It looks to me that this is no longer the case based on what Qantas have charged me for my SIN-HEL-DUS(Stop)-MUC-HEL-PVG flights (all with AY economy; charge: S$592.90 for all taxes and surcharges). And matrix.itasoftware.com/ confirm that the carrier-imposed surcharge (YR) is S$462.00 for these four flights.

I'm no expert on this, but the Wiki is for Point of Sale in Australia. Perhaps the carrier surcharges differ for PoS SIN.

 

[Familyman1]

I'm no expert on this, but the Wiki is for Point of Sale in Australia. Perhaps the carrier surcharges differ for PoS SIN.

That could be the explanation. I just checked what Qantas charge for BNE-SIN(Stop)-HEL-DUS(Stop, surface)-MUC-HEL-PVG and it is A$557.80 which is about $50 less than without the BNE-SIN. Thanks for that.

 

[Gerbud]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the great info.

I have searched online and looked at Wikis but I am still at a loss about one aspect of the Oneworld QFF RTW trip.

I am starting out from Perth, Australia and travelling to North America via Sydney crossing the Pacific. I will then take some internal flights in North America and plan to go back to Perth from JFK via Tokyo and then KL.

Only thing is I will be crossing the Pacific twice.

Will this be an issue? I know it is not permitted on the paid RTWs but I am not sure about the reward booking. I am reading varying information online.

Look forward to hearing from anyone who can help me out.

Thanks
G

 

[Captain Halliday]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the great info.

I have searched online and looked at Wikis but I am still at a loss about one aspect of the Oneworld QFF RTW trip.

I am starting out from Perth, Australia and travelling to North America via Sydney crossing the Pacific. I will then take some internal flights in North America and plan to go back to Perth from JFK via Tokyo and then KL.

Only thing is I will be crossing the Pacific twice.

Will this be an issue? I know it is not permitted on the paid RTWs but I am not sure about the reward booking. I am reading varying information online.

Look forward to hearing from anyone who can help me out.

Thanks
G

This is not a RTW award.

There is no requirement to go “round the world” which is why you won’t find it in the wiki.

 

[TanBish]

I know this has been addressed many pages ago on and off - but has anyone had any luck recently in getting Qantas CSO’s to add an AA leg in J when it’s not showing on QF website search but does show as available on AA website search?