Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[nat000]

Can someone please assist me with tax calculations on a RTW J ticket. I'm pretty sure I've been overcharged. The only leg I can't find the taxes for are on Iberia (muc-mad-nrt). When I ring Qantas they advise they can't figure out that individual Iberia segment either.
I have to following
per-hkg-lhr-ham $450
nrt-hnl-nrt $112
nrt-kul-per $43
total here is $603
but when they add in the Iberia (muc-mad-nrt) the total jumps up to $1378. So $775 for that leg !
Is there a way to find out the tax for the Iberia segment separately ?

Thanks in advance

 

[glasszon]

Just to report back, I finally managed to get my last segments added. The agent got his supervisor to immediately ticket my flights from last week's change, so he can add the last segments onto the booking.

I appreciated the agent's help but it was a painful process, took 65 minutes on the phone excluding wait time as he first struggled with finding flight availability for JL, then need his supervisor to issue the ticket before he can make the amendment.

 

[rock86]

Can someone please assist me with tax calculations on a RTW J ticket. I'm pretty sure I've been overcharged. The only leg I can't find the taxes for are on Iberia (muc-mad-nrt). When I ring Qantas they advise they can't figure out that individual Iberia segment either.
I have to following
per-hkg-lhr-ham $450
nrt-hnl-nrt $112
nrt-kul-per $43
total here is $603
but when they add in the Iberia (muc-mad-nrt) the total jumps up to $1378. So $775 for that leg !
Is there a way to find out the tax for the Iberia segment separately ?

Thanks in advance

Certainly is a way, it is called ITA Matrix. See below for that routes surcharges on Iberia in EUR, so around AUD460.

All in all it probably is right for the total surcharges charged.

 

[nat000]

Wow, that's handy. So about $460 for the 2 Iberia segments, still a lot less than $775. Not sure how I can handle this as Qantas said the total is $1378 and that's that.
I know it should be approx. $1000, but I think I'm still being overcharged about $300.

 

[nat000]

Or is the extra $300 because it's an award booking ?

 

[rock86]

Wow, that's handy. So about $460 for the 2 Iberia segments, still a lot less than $775. Not sure how I can handle this as Qantas said the total is $1378 and that's that.
I know it should be approx. $1000, but I think I'm still being overcharged about $300.

I think you're probably being charged correctly though.

Remember the Wiki above is only for Fuel Surcharges, it does not include any of the Airport & Country taxes imposed.

 

[madrooster]

Certainly is a way, it is called ITA Matrix. See below for that routes surcharges on Iberia in EUR, so around AUD460.

All in all it probably is right for the total surcharges charged.

This is not correct for a number of carriers, BA, QF and IB to name a few. These carriers charge different amounts of fuel fines for awards compared to commercial fares, which is precisely why the fuel fines listing exists in the wiki. The data in the wiki cannot be found just by looking at ITA matrix.

Can someone please assist me with tax calculations on a RTW J ticket. I'm pretty sure I've been overcharged. The only leg I can't find the taxes for are on Iberia (muc-mad-nrt). When I ring Qantas they advise they can't figure out that individual Iberia segment either.
I have to following
per-hkg-lhr-ham $450
nrt-hnl-nrt $112
nrt-kul-per $43
total here is $603
but when they add in the Iberia (muc-mad-nrt) the total jumps up to $1378. So $775 for that leg !
Is there a way to find out the tax for the Iberia segment separately ?

Thanks in advance

If you had the booking originally created over the phone (not online), PM me the record locator and I will see if I can extract the fuel fine amounts from your ticket.

 

[Dave G]

I have a question..
CX seem to have a policy of releasing a mass of business seats about ~ 2 weeks before departure.
I have a RTW 280k fare, with one leg booked in economy - as no business when booked.
This leg is about 25 days after the start of the trip.
If Cathay release any award J seating - is there any way of picking it up - or am I skunked as I have started the journey ?
Thanks
Dave

 

[jxv]

Just to report back, I finally managed to get my last segments added. The agent got his supervisor to immediately ticket my flights from last week's change, so he can add the last segments onto the booking.

That sounds strange. I have done two 280k rewards and added segments or made changes numerous times. Every time I made a change before the last one was ticketed it was not a problem and I was told that there was no change fee, because the change fee is only payable on re-ticketing. Did you get charged the change fee for both changes?

 

[glasszon]

That sounds strange. I have done two 280k rewards and added segments or made changes numerous times. Every time I made a change before the last one was ticketed it was not a problem and I was told that there was no change fee, because the change fee is only payable on re-ticketing. Did you get charged the change fee for both changes?

Don't know what happened, the first agent simply refused to do it, when I called again the second agent tried to add the segment but the computer is blocking him (apparently), so he escalated it to his supervisor and there's a problem with the ticket, it took about 30 minutes for the supervisor to fix the problem but they never told me what the problem is.

No, I have only been charged 1 change fee, so at least I saved 10k QF points.

 

[geoffshaw]

Can anyone see anything wrong with this itinerary? The call centre insist is isn't valid but can't tell me why. I'm about 5 hours into a phone call with them and it's really frustrating.

MEL-SYD QF
SYD-LAX AA (STOP)
LAX-PHX (SURFACE)
PHX-ORD AA
ORD-BUF AA (STOP)
BUF-JFK (SURFACE)
JFK-BOS AA
BOS-MAD IB
MAD-LHR BA
LHR-KEF BA (STOP)
KEF-LHR BA (STOP)
LHR-ATH BA (STOP)
ATH-ZRH (SURFACE)
ZRH-HKG CX
HKG-SIN CX
SIN-MEL QF

All transfers are under 24hr.

 

[madrooster]

Can anyone see anything wrong with this itinerary? The call centre insist is isn't valid but can't tell me why. I'm about 5 hours into a phone call with them and it's really frustrating.

MEL-SYD QF
SYD-LAX AA (STOP)
LAX-PHX (SURFACE)
PHX-ORD AA
ORD-BUF AA (STOP)
BUF-JFK (SURFACE)
JFK-BOS AA
BOS-MAD IB
MAD-LHR BA
LHR-KEF BA (STOP)
KEF-LHR BA (STOP)
LHR-ATH BA (STOP)
ATH-ZRH (SURFACE)
ZRH-HKG CX
HKG-SIN CX
SIN-MEL QF

All transfers are under 24hr.

Nothing wrong with the routing. It's perfectly valid. You have 5 stops, you have 16 segments, you only have 1 transit and 1 stop at LHR (2 transits + 1 stop allowed). You are well under the 35000 miles allowance too.

 

[geoffshaw]

Thanks, I thought as much. Now I have to try and convince Qantas!

 

[geoffshaw]

I finally got it sorted, roughly 12 hours after I first called. For some reason though, no one at the call centre could see any available seats on QF36 SIN-MEL despite them showing on the website. Ended up having to go on QF38 and will have to try and change at a later date. They also waived the change fee for the huge stuff around.

 

[Hoe Bing Lo]

Dear gurus, I am planning a trip of a decade for my wife and I.

Was wanting to do J and visit the following places.

CNS-BNE-SIN-xLIS-xZRH-RTM-xOSL-xARN-HEL-xNRT-SFO-BNE-CNS

The award pricing doesn't work because I keep getting flights that fly back and forths to LHR when doing the European cities.

May I enlist the help of geniuses to make this come through?

Planning now for travel in Jun 2019 hopefully

 

[Danger]

Dear gurus, I am planning a trip of a decade for my wife and I.

Was wanting to do J and visit the following places.

CNS-BNE-SIN-xLIS-xZRH-RTM-xOSL-xARN-HEL-xNRT-SFO-BNE-CNS

The award pricing doesn't work because I keep getting flights that fly back and forths to LHR when doing the European cities.

May I enlist the help of geniuses to make this come through?

Planning now for travel in Jun 2019 hopefully

There are no oneworld flights between SIN and LIS. At a guess I'd say there's also none between LIS and ZRH, nor RTM and ARN. That would be the reason you're being sent back through LHR. You will need to route via a oneworld hub either side of LIS and, I suspect, ZRH, RTM and OSL

Try looking here: oneworld Online Timetable. That will give you the oneworld flights (direct and connection) out of each airport.

Without checking availability or mileage consider: CNS-xBNE-xSIN-xHEL/xLHR-LIS-xHEL/xLHR/xMAD-ZRH-xLHR-RTM-xLHR-OSL-xLHR/ xMAD/xHEL-ARN-xHEL-NRT-SFO-xSYD-CNS.

Note:

1. "x" is one common way to indicate a transit but I'm guessing you're actually intending each of those to be a stopover.
2. HEL-NRT can also be achieved by HEL-xSIN-NRT OR HEL-xHKG-NRT or HEL-xBKK-NRT.
3. NRT-SFO can also be achieved by NRT-xHKG-SFO OR NRT-xBKK-xHKG-SFO.
4. I suspect you may have an issue with mileage. For example: Great Circle Mapper. You may need to consider some side trips that are separate to this oneworld award.

 

[geoffshaw]

Remember you can only transit through an airport twice, so you wouldn't be able to go through LHR & HEL enough times to make that work.

 

[flychrisfly]

Dear gurus, I am planning a trip of a decade for my wife and I.

Was wanting to do J and visit the following places.

CNS-BNE-SIN-xLIS-xZRH-RTM-xOSL-xARN-HEL-xNRT-SFO-BNE-CNS

The award pricing doesn't work because I keep getting flights that fly back and forths to LHR when doing the European cities.

May I enlist the help of geniuses to make this come through?

Planning now for travel in Jun 2019 hopefully

You want to return home from Tokyo to Brisbane via San Francisco? Long way to go for < 24 hours. Also, might be tricky given the flight times out of SFO are usually late to Asia/Oz

 

[Hoe Bing Lo]

You want to return home from Tokyo to Brisbane via San Francisco? Long way to go for < 24 hours. Also, might be tricky given the flight times out of SFO are usually late to Asia/Oz

Hi, I am not set on the itinerary.

Just would really love to visit

LIS
ZRH
RTM
OSL
ARN
HEL
NRT

The starting point is CNS

So I am open to all possible options. I just plotted those on GCMAP and it looks like a reasonable way to fly but when I go to qantas multicity, it the flights between RTM, OSL, ARN,HEL all transit through LHR and so would disqualify me for the 280K award in J.

Hence the request for help to see if one of the brains trust here have a way around it.

 

[Guvner]

Looked at Finnair as an option?