Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

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We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:


If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.




>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE
 
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re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

I've previously read on AFF that QF6 tends to be premium pax heavy - how that changes the odds I don't know, but with all fare buckets closed and the seat map looking awful full, your chances at an upgrade aren't exactly brilliant. :(

Best of luck!
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Anyone care to take a guess on the likelihood of these ones being full/oversold?

QF93 11OCT
Code:
F8 A8 J9 C9 D0 I0 W7 R0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M7 L1 V8 S3 G0 E0
QF still selling 'Red e-Deal' (S class) on their website.


QF94 25OCT
Code:
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I6 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L8 V7 S8 N3 G0 E0
QF still selling 'Red e-Deal' (N/S Class) on their website.

I'm guessing the QF93 will most likely fill up in the next few days, but not having done MEL-LAX in 7 years I don't know.

These are both 747's as well.
 
Points upgrade chances???

I've previously read on AFF that QF6 tends to be premium pax heavy - how that changes the odds I don't know, but with all fare buckets closed and the seat map looking awful full, your chances at an upgrade aren't exactly brilliant. :(

Best of luck!

T-13 hours. Upgrade successful. Got one of the blocked seats.
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Can someone check seat availability on:

QF127 SYD-HKG 12 Oct 2010
and
CX271 HKG-AMS 13 Oct 2010

THANKS
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Can someone check seat availability on:

QF127 SYD-HKG 12 Oct 2010

Code:
J0 C0 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X4 E0

CX271 HKG-AMS 13 Oct 2010

Code:
F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

QF127 SYD-HKG 12 Oct 2010

Code:
J0 C0 D0 I0 U0 W0 R0 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X4 E0
CX271 HKG-AMS 13 Oct 2010

Code:
F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9


Thanks for this - looks prem pax heavy QF127 and just generally empty CX271
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Anyone care to take a guess on the likelihood of these ones being full/oversold?

QF93 11OCT
Code:
F8 A8 J9 C9 D0 I0 W7 R0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M7 L1 V8 S3 G0 E0
QF still selling 'Red e-Deal' (S class) on their website.


QF94 25OCT
Code:
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I6 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L8 V7 S8 N3 G0 E0
QF still selling 'Red e-Deal' (N/S Class) on their website.

I'm guessing the QF93 will most likely fill up in the next few days, but not having done MEL-LAX in 7 years I don't know.

These are both 747's as well.


OK update on QF93. Was pretty full but not oversold. Around 20 empty seats in whY total in the end.

QF94 is however filling up a lot faster (25OCT):

Was:
Code:
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I6 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L8 V7 S8 N3 G0 E0

Now:
Code:
F5 A5 J9 C9 D9 I4 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B6 H4 K8 M7 L5 V4 S5 G0 E0
.

Seat map is looking very full. Anyone like to take a guess on if whY is actually oversold at this level?
 
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re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

QF11-SYD-LAX, 15 October (tomorrow - yay). Anyway of telling how many seats and the likely hood of an upgrade to J (and out of curiousity to F)

ta
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

QF11-SYD-LAX, 15 October (tomorrow - yay). Anyway of telling how many seats and the likely hood of an upgrade to J (and out of curiousity to F)

ta

Fare Classes:
Code:
F6 A6 P0 J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 W3 R3 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

Seat Map for whY:
qf1115101.png

qf1115102.png


You don't make mention of your FF status, but unless you're paying for an upgrade using points, or you're a WP, I wouldn't be holding out hope unfortunately.
 
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re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Would like to know what is the load on Y and Y+ or J on these flights
QF 9 on 16th Oct MEL - SIN
QF 51 on 16th Oct SIN - BOM
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

QF 9 on 16th Oct MEL - SIN

Code:
F7 A7 J9 C8 D8 I8 W0 R0 T0 Y9 B8 H8 K8 M8 L8 V8 S8 G0 E0

There are a small handful of unallocated whY seats on this flight, though if you compare that to QF9 MEL-LHR:

Code:
F2 A2 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 T0 Y9 B8 H9 K8 M8 L8 S8 Q8 O9 G0 X8 E0

QF 51 on 16th Oct SIN - BOM

Code:
J9 C9 D9 I2 U2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0

...wiiiiide open. Two x award seats in J still available. Highly likely that an upgrade request would be granted for that flight.
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

QF 9 on 16th Oct MEL - SIN

Code:
F7 A7 J9 C8 D8 I8 W0 R0 T0 Y9 B8 H8 K8 M8 L8 V8 S8 G0 E0
There are a small handful of unallocated whY seats on this flight, though if you compare that to QF9 MEL-LHR:

Code:
F2 A2 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 T0 Y9 B8 H9 K8 M8 L8 S8 Q8 O9 G0 X8 E0
QF 51 on 16th Oct SIN - BOM

Code:
J9 C9 D9 I2 U2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
...wiiiiide open. Two x award seats in J still available. Highly likely that an upgrade request would be granted for that flight.


Thanks.

How would i read this no's?

Does it mean that my upgrade request won't come through on QF 51?
 
Thanks.

How would i read this no's?

Does it mean that my upgrade request won't come through on QF 51?
The opposite, see here:
Since U (being business class awards) is showing with the flight very soon; that implies very light sales in business for this flight. Hence upgrade are more than likely.
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Hi all :)

QF 114
AKL - SYD on October 19 2010

Have a points upgrade lodged from Y to J.

How am I looking...?! (WP here, on a K fare)

Cheers
 
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re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

QF 114
AKL - SYD on October 19 2010

Code:
J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 G0 E0

Basically the polar opposite of oversold - however with I fares still available 2 days out, and that you're a WP ... I'd say your chances are pretty reasonable.
 
Flight Availability / Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Code:
J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 G0 E0

Basically the polar opposite of oversold - however with I fares still available 2 days out, and that you're a WP ... I'd say your chances are pretty reasonable.

Thank you.

Would have liked to have seen a U9 as well to make me feel better!!
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Code:
J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 G0 E0

Basically the polar opposite of oversold - however with I fares still available 2 days out, and that you're a WP ... I'd say your chances are pretty reasonable.


Just letting you know upgrade came through :D

Allocated seat 1A...... sweetness. In for a nice relaxing trip home thanks to skybed :p

Thanks again notzac.
 
re: Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Can someone please tell me if there are any decent seats left on QF009 on 25 October and QF010 on 4 November? Interested in bulkhead, 80A or 80K and is it 71D?

Judging by the current sale I would hazard a guess that both of these flights are not that full.
 

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