Does Closing Beaches Make Any Sense?

[andye]

A party at Bucket List on Bondi beachfront is a definite cluster. I understand the index case is a backpacker fresh off the plane

 

[burmans]

Yes, and then continued the party on the beach the next couple of days.

 

[Renato1]

Sorry, have been having a hard time keeping track of this thread.

I've been too busy getting sun down the beach........till they closed all the beaches here this afternoon.

Meanwhile, all the Bunnings stores are chock-o-block full of people - which apparently is all supposed to make sense.
Cheers,
Renato

 

[Guvner]

It's all a bit strange. Apparently its OK for me to go to the park with my dog at one end of my street but not OK to go to the beach with my towel at the other end, both approx. 100m from my house. The park is busy, people and dogs everywhere, the beach is empty.

 

[scaredeycat]

Renato says he watches Sky News (probably doesn't trust those commies at the ABC and the Guardian). Here is a link to a Sky story that explains the sort of situation that might happen to us if we don't all take social distancing seriously:

 

[burmans]

It's all a bit strange. Apparently its OK for me to go to the park with my dog at one end of my street but not OK to go to the beach with my towel at the other end, both approx. 100m from my house. The park is busy, people and dogs everywhere, the beach is empty.

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Just regard it as an idiot tax. The beaches aren't closed in places where people are smart enough to behave responsibly.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

It's all a bit strange. Apparently its OK for me to go to the park with my dog at one end of my street but not OK to go to the beach with my towel at the other end, both approx. 100m from my house. The park is busy, people and dogs everywhere, the beach is empty.

That's the thing. It's probably NOT really 'ok' for us to be out and about. But the government recognises there are certain things, getting food, medical attention and restricted exercise (solo or family only) which have got to take place.

Taking your towel to spend time and lie on the beach (not really exercise) is possibly considered a different category.

 

[straitman]

Sorry, have been having a hard time keeping track of this thread.

I've been too busy getting sun down the beach........till they closed all the beaches here this afternoon.

Meanwhile, all the Bunnings stores are chock-o-block full of people - which apparently is all supposed to make sense.
Cheers,
Renato

Unfortunately the system is not fool proof but does that mean any of us have to be one of the fools.

I just don't understand what people don't understand.

 

[Pushka]

We live on the beachfront in Adelaide. A beautiful warm sunny day. Our beaches are not closed. And people behaved perfectly.
A group of young ‘uns doing their best at social distancing. I felt like clapping them. They were a group of 6-8.

 

[Denali]

Friend lives at Palm Beach and said there's three police cars trying to get groups of people off the beach

 

[Pushka]

Friend lives at Palm Beach and said there's three police cars trying to get groups of people off the beach

After a hot day in Adelaide everyone did the right thing and the Govt has said there are no plans at all to close the beach.

 

[Renato1]

Unfortunately the system is not fool proof but does that mean any of us have to be one of the fools.

I just don't understand what people don't understand.

Well some people have something called logic.

I just watched Premier Andrews say the beaches are closed - but people are still allowed to walk on beaches, but they are not allowed to stay on the beach all day. Even though most everyone (except couples) is easily more than two meters apart.

Thu s walking on beach is okay. But lying on beach not okay. Remind me of primary school - someone does something wrong, punish the whole class. Just what I expect from Collectivists.

And during news report I was watching people on Mornington Peninsula complaining about people from the city coming down to their beaches and using them - camera pans across the beach and people are 30 or more meters apart. Then pictures of Policemen going to a single person who seemed about 200meters from anyone and telling him to go away.

That's a valuable use of Police resources.

And to answer your question, that is what people do not understand.

If, for example, some people do something wrong and/or dangerous on a freeway, the Government fines the individuals doing wrong. They don't go on TV complaining like old whiners about it, and then close the freeway to everybody until further notice.
Regards,
Renato

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Thu s walking on beach is okay. But lying on beach not okay.

That's exactly right

You're not supposed to be going out unless it is essential. Stay at home.

Food, medical supplies, or exercise.

Walking on the beach = exercise. Staying on the beach all does is NOT exercise.

Stay at home is first and foremost. If you must go out, social distancing applies.

 

[DC3]

In NSW, Waverley Council in Sydney’s eastern suburbs has recorded the highest number of confirmed coronavirus cases.

Hmm, I wonder what gathering might have caused that?

Yes. And apart from the beach, that area of Sydney is also a Backpacker haven/party zone.

 

[Renato1]

That's exactly right

You're not supposed to be going out unless it is essential. Stay at home.

Food, medical supplies, or exercise.

Walking on the beach = exercise. Staying on the beach all does is NOT exercise.

Stay at home is first and foremost. If you must go out, social distancing applies.

Staying on beach all day, swimming in water, resting, swimming in water, walking up and down beach, swimming some more - IS exercise.

One of my friends just had his public pool closed - the one he swam in every day to relieve a long term painful knee problem. Now he can't swim in beach water.
Regards,
Renato

 

[straitman]

Well some people have something called logic.

And to answer your question, that is what people do not understand.
Regards,
Renato

Unfortunately many don’t seem to be able apply that logic without assistance.
I did say the system isn’t without fault, but that doesn’t give people permission to flout the rules whether they are silly or not.
This isn’t just for the benefit of the individuals but for the benefit of the whole community.
How can the indefensible be defended?

 

[straitman]

Staying on beach all day, swimming in water, resting, swimming in water, walking up and down beach, swimming some more - IS exercise.

One of my friends just had his public pool closed - the one he swam in every day to relieve a long term painful knee problem. Now he can't swim in beach water.
Regards,
Renato

Repeating what was posted above.

Food, medical supplies, or exercise. The intent is not to stay out for lengthy periods.

The social distancing advisory states

• stay at home unless is absolutely necessary

Walking on the beach = exercise.

Staying on the beach for large parts of the day with a bit of a walk and a bit of a swim is NOT necessary.

 

[Renato1]

Unfortunately many don’t seem to be able apply that logic without assistance.
I did say the system isn’t without fault, but that doesn’t give people permission to flout the rules whether they are silly or not.
This isn’t just for the benefit of the individuals but for the benefit of the whole community.
How can the indefensible be defended?

You miss the point - the vast majority of people were not flouting the rules.
Today I saw some people were drawing big 1.5 to 2 meter circles around them on the sand, staking out their territory.

A sensible government would have sent those same police officers out to beaches and handed out on-the-spot fines to people clustered together in violation of the 1.5 meter distance rule.
Regards,
Renato

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Staying on beach all day, swimming in water, resting, swimming in water, walking up and down beach, swimming some more - IS exercise.

One of my friends just had his public pool closed - the one he swam in every day to relieve a long term painful knee problem. Now he can't swim in beach water.
Regards,
Renato

That’s unfortunate for your friend.

Do you know that the virus is carried by droplets?

I think it’s right that water-based activities are not encouraged.

Did you also read the article that Coronavirus was in the sewage? That’s another proof that the virus lives in water-based places.

 

[DC3]

That reminds me of something about public swimming pools. Nasty things in the water at the best of times = keep out of those pools.