Accor Plus Membership Discussion

[dairyfloss]

comparison table - 30 bonus Status Nights upon joining or renewal (subject to a cap).
2.6 (d) For bonus Status Nights awarded to a Member when subscribing to or renewing an ALL Accor+ membership programme, regardless of the number or types of ALL Accor+ memberships the Member holds, a limit of 30 bonus Status Nights awarded across all memberships held will be counted towards determining the annual Status Nights' balance for that Member. This limitation does not affect Status Nights awarded for stays or other activities through a Member's use of their membership.


Is this means bonus night from this new Accorplus not stackable with other membership (eg. All+ China)?

Correct - combined total capped at 30 nights going forwards, so no more cheap platinum from this method.

 

[dairyfloss]

One other thing is that pricing across all regions is now the same, Milelion has a good article about this.

Accor Plus becomes ALL Accor+ Explorer: Stay Plus nerfed, dining discount cut to 30% - The MileLion

From October 2025, Stay Plus will require a minimum of one paid night and dining discounts will be capped at 30%, as Accor Plus becomes ALL Accor+ Explorer.

milelion.com

I had mine in Malaysia and paid ~$427 per year with 2x free nights (although these didn't have the limitation). That now drops to ~$345 and also includes 2x free nights (but have to pay for one extra night). Dining was often just me or 3/4 people so not a major loss there and the discounts on drinks and global rates should make up the difference so overall I'm quite pleased.

Now the really interesting thing is unused stay plus certificates multiply on 1 October.

I've got one booking at the Fairmont in Singapore ($415 value as thats the cheapest room rate) and one at the Sofitel Fiji ($370 value) so for my $427 I've got $785 worth of rooms but the gamble is cancelling just prior to 1 October and then rebooking to pick up an extra stay plus. Unless I figure out if you can cancel after 1 October and it still splits into two.

Edit - Found in the help:

So it seems I can sit on my bookings and wait until after 1 October to see if I can extract even more value.

You can, but keep in mind you’re not able to combine BOGOF nights in the one booking or stay, which I understand includes checking out and back in on the same day for a successive booking. You may get away with that in places though

 

[serfty]

If you renew prior to 30th September you should be assessed under the current arrangements, they don't state otherwise and I would be very surprised if they attempted to claw back a few months of status - What is certain is if you renew after 30th September you will miss out as it will be calendar year aligned to ALL.

Thanks ...

I have done some tallying.

Fortunately for me, I'll have 30 BiB status nights by the end of September, so it seems best to renew in October. From what I can make out, this will give me Platinum status until at least the end 2026.

 

[comehither]

Man after my own!

 

[Haplo]

So for amex cardholder our anniversary for most of us is 31 August, so if i book the stay plus in September I get one night free (without having to book a second night), but if I do nothing then come October then i'll get two nights free (minimum two nights), is that how it is going to work?

For the two nights is the free night the lower of the two night or waiver of one night on the average night rate?

 

[oz_mark]

So for amex cardholder our anniversary for most of us is 31 August, so if i book the stay plus in September I get one night free (without having to book a second night), but if I do nothing then come October then i'll get two nights free (minimum two nights), is that how it is going to work?

For the two nights is the free night the lower of the two night or waiver of one night on the average night rate?

It's covered in the T&C's 6.2(d)

(d) The complimentary night applies to the most expensive night booked.

 

[roulette21]

You can, but keep in mind you’re not able to combine BOGOF nights in the one booking or stay, which I understand includes checking out and back in on the same day for a successive booking. You may get away with that in places though

now cannot use 2 accorplus account (me+wife) to book stayplus consecutive night (up to 4 night)..

 

[Flyerwin]

Correct - combined total capped at 30 nights going forwards, so no more cheap platinum from this method.

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

 

[dairyfloss]

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

No - nothing I’ve seen on that; it’s the bonus nights stacking that they are cracking down on here I think

 

[jase05]

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

I haven’t seen that mentioned at all yet but I suspect they may tweak that at some stage depending on numbers. For now though I think they let it go

 

[MELso]

So, in regard to the status updates indicated retaining will change; to clarify my understanding.

Previously - I enrolled in Accor Plus September 2024 and received a 20 night credit. This combined with a further 40 or more nights previously credited in 2024 to earn Platinum. My understanding was that if I renewed Accor Plus before end of September this year I would maintain Platinum until at least September 2026, if insufficient nights in 2025.

Until October 1st, that is still the case.

I'm not sure that's right as Accor status is determined by calendar year.

My understanding of the status is that post 1 October 2025, status in 2026 will solely be determined by what is achieved in 2025. At least this is what Schedule 1 to the new T&Cs suggests (there's nothing suggesting people who achieved status in 2024 automatically maintain it, unlike the existing T&Cs at clause 2.6(d)).

My email suggested that I'd get platinum again in 2026. I suspect this is based on the 10 2025 nights I already have, 20 nights from a pre-30 September renewal and 30 nights being credited on 1 October. I'd therefore get the 60 nights that way, rather than relying on my 60 status nights from 2024 (30 from Qantas, 20 from A+ and 10 from, well, staying in hotels).

Hence, I did my renewal earlier today.

EDIT - this also means that the trick of renewing Accor Plus in December to pick up status from the prior year if you got 60 nights the previous year but not the current year won't work going forward.

 

[MG1]

Be interesting to see if they now allow membership for those with other paid subscriptions, was meant to happen last year.

I'm a little confused as to what this means for me. I current have an Accor Plus subscription (through Amex) which expires in a couple of months' time and an ALL Signature subscription which expires early next year. I'm currently Platinum.
Will I still be able to have both paid subscriptions or this something that we just don't know yet?
Will my status in 2026 be based on all of 2025 or just on the stays after my membership renews?
If I make it up to Diamond by the end of the year, will that carry over to 2026? (I'll need to know whether it's worth pursuing with the current changes.)

I used to know how this worked, now I'm a little unsure.

 

[Nat]

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

Why do you mean by complimentary status points? Do you mean via Signature? (no changes here). Accor Plus never offered complimentary status points.

 

[Flyerwin]

Signature

Yes Signature.

 

[serfty]

I'm not sure that's right as Accor status is determined by calendar year.

Until Oct 1st, status can also be extended outside a calendar year by Joining Accor Plus. This is referenced here:

... The underlying status is geared around the Accor ALL program, and in that, if you earn or retain status in one year, you keep that for the remainder of that year, and all of the next (i.e. until at least 31-Dec-2024). Accor Plus then comes in over the top of this, and carries your current status to the end of your Accor Plus membership year (so renew January and you'll have until at least Jan 2025), and assuming you renew again, they look at the highest status that you have made in the last 2 periods to determine what status you will carry forward for the renewed year (i.e. Gold until Jan 2026) ...

In my situation it is September, and If I renew now, I would have Platinum until September next year.

Now this is changing.

I need to ensure 1) my auto renewal is turned off, wait until 2) my status to drop from Platinum and 3) the revised program kicks in. Once that happens I expect to have 30 BiB nights already for 2025. Joining the new program will credit a bonus 30 nights giving me the 60 needed for Platinum. I would have this for at least the remainder of this year and the next.

 

[Seat0B]

Why is everything so complicated with Accor . Just when you get your head around the hacks for the system, they change the system. I was planning to do the December thing (currently my year end is 30 June), but seems like that is no longer the go.

Or maybe it is actually now simpler in that everything will align to calendar year for status? So my stay nights collected in the Jan- Jun period plus the drop of 30 free nights in July, plus my stay nights for Jul-Dec will now determine status for the following calendar year? That is a bit clearer for me I think.

So far though, I am getting pretty good value from a monthly Signature subscription (thanks @sudoer) with the reward points subsidising my stays quite nicely and the status points keeping me on track for Platinum retention even though I will likely just miss the 60 nights (looks like I’ll have about 57 nights) thus avoiding the need for a mattress run! And the way I read the T&C, it’s only multiple Accor + that have the 30 night limit - Signature looks to still be able to stack as it does not award nights, and is not Accor+. Have I got that right?

 

[RooFlyer]

Until Oct 1st, status can also be extended outside a calendar year by Joining Accor Plus. This is referenced here:
In my situation it is September, and If I renew now, I would have Platinum until September next year.

Now this is changing.

I need to ensure 1) my auto renewal is turned off, wait until 2) my status to drop from Platinum and 3) the revised program kicks in. Once that happens I expect to have 30 BiB nights already for 2025. Joining the new program will credit a bonus 30 nights giving me the 60 needed for Platinum. I would have this for at least the remainder of this year and the next.

So with all that rigmarole you get an extra three months of platinum at the end of next year?

Not a criticism, just making sure I understand.

 

[Seat0B]

I also think a couple of properties have jumped the gun on the 2 nights minimum stay for using your Accor Plus free night. Last week I tried to book for a single night at MGallery William Angliss Warwick Farm for Thursday night and there were no nights available. I’ve previously used the benefit there. And the booking and the sty were both well before the 1 Oct change over. I also tried for a single night at Melbourne Central Pullman, but in November. Also not available. Maybe that’s because it’s after 1 Oct, but still the booking would be made now.

I hope Accor is not going down the QF Award Flights Hunger Games path with availability of free nights.

 

[MELso]

Until Oct 1st, status can also be extended outside a calendar year by Joining Accor Plus. This is referenced here:
In my situation it is September, and If I renew now, I would have Platinum until September next year.

Now this is changing.

I need to ensure 1) my auto renewal is turned off, wait until 2) my status to drop from Platinum and 3) the revised program kicks in. Once that happens I expect to have 30 BiB nights already for 2025. Joining the new program will credit a bonus 30 nights giving me the 60 needed for Platinum. I would have this for at least the remainder of this year and the next.

Dairyfloss's post was in 2023 and under the old T&Cs. The new T&Cs mean this operates differently, and the old 'best of the last two years' rule dies on 1 October. When 31 December rolls around, they'll look solely at how many nights you accrued in 2025 to determine 2026's status. Unless you already have a way to 30 nights this year, adding Accor Plus won't mean you get platinum next year.

More here: https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au/articles/46408593114009-How-does-this-impact-my-ALL-Accor-status

It's a "a simpler, more transparent way to recognise and reward your loyalty", apparently.