ALL Accor+ Explorer Membership Discussion

[roulette21]

You can, but keep in mind you’re not able to combine BOGOF nights in the one booking or stay, which I understand includes checking out and back in on the same day for a successive booking. You may get away with that in places though

now cannot use 2 accorplus account (me+wife) to book stayplus consecutive night (up to 4 night)..

 

[Flyerwin]

Correct - combined total capped at 30 nights going forwards, so no more cheap platinum from this method.

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

 

[dairyfloss]

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

No - nothing I’ve seen on that; it’s the bonus nights stacking that they are cracking down on here I think

 

[jase05]

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

I haven’t seen that mentioned at all yet but I suspect they may tweak that at some stage depending on numbers. For now though I think they let it go

 

[MELso]

So, in regard to the status updates indicated retaining will change; to clarify my understanding.

Previously - I enrolled in Accor Plus September 2024 and received a 20 night credit. This combined with a further 40 or more nights previously credited in 2024 to earn Platinum. My understanding was that if I renewed Accor Plus before end of September this year I would maintain Platinum until at least September 2026, if insufficient nights in 2025.

Until October 1st, that is still the case.

I'm not sure that's right as Accor status is determined by calendar year.

My understanding of the status is that post 1 October 2025, status in 2026 will solely be determined by what is achieved in 2025. At least this is what Schedule 1 to the new T&Cs suggests (there's nothing suggesting people who achieved status in 2024 automatically maintain it, unlike the existing T&Cs at clause 2.6(d)).

My email suggested that I'd get platinum again in 2026. I suspect this is based on the 10 2025 nights I already have, 20 nights from a pre-30 September renewal and 30 nights being credited on 1 October. I'd therefore get the 60 nights that way, rather than relying on my 60 status nights from 2024 (30 from Qantas, 20 from A+ and 10 from, well, staying in hotels).

Hence, I did my renewal earlier today.

EDIT - this also means that the trick of renewing Accor Plus in December to pick up status from the prior year if you got 60 nights the previous year but not the current year won't work going forward.

 

[MG1]

Be interesting to see if they now allow membership for those with other paid subscriptions, was meant to happen last year.

I'm a little confused as to what this means for me. I current have an Accor Plus subscription (through Amex) which expires in a couple of months' time and an ALL Signature subscription which expires early next year. I'm currently Platinum.
Will I still be able to have both paid subscriptions or this something that we just don't know yet?
Will my status in 2026 be based on all of 2025 or just on the stays after my membership renews?
If I make it up to Diamond by the end of the year, will that carry over to 2026? (I'll need to know whether it's worth pursuing with the current changes.)

I used to know how this worked, now I'm a little unsure.

 

[Nat]

What about complimentary status points? Are they capped too?

Why do you mean by complimentary status points? Do you mean via Signature? (no changes here). Accor Plus never offered complimentary status points.

 

[Flyerwin]

Signature

Yes Signature.

 

[serfty]

I'm not sure that's right as Accor status is determined by calendar year.

Until Oct 1st, status can also be extended outside a calendar year by Joining Accor Plus. This is referenced here:

... The underlying status is geared around the Accor ALL program, and in that, if you earn or retain status in one year, you keep that for the remainder of that year, and all of the next (i.e. until at least 31-Dec-2024). Accor Plus then comes in over the top of this, and carries your current status to the end of your Accor Plus membership year (so renew January and you'll have until at least Jan 2025), and assuming you renew again, they look at the highest status that you have made in the last 2 periods to determine what status you will carry forward for the renewed year (i.e. Gold until Jan 2026) ...

In my situation it is September, and If I renew now, I would have Platinum until September next year.

Now this is changing.

I need to ensure 1) my auto renewal is turned off, wait until 2) my status to drop from Platinum and 3) the revised program kicks in. Once that happens I expect to have 30 BiB nights already for 2025. Joining the new program will credit a bonus 30 nights giving me the 60 needed for Platinum. I would have this for at least the remainder of this year and the next.

 

[Seat0B]

Why is everything so complicated with Accor . Just when you get your head around the hacks for the system, they change the system. I was planning to do the December thing (currently my year end is 30 June), but seems like that is no longer the go.

Or maybe it is actually now simpler in that everything will align to calendar year for status? So my stay nights collected in the Jan- Jun period plus the drop of 30 free nights in July, plus my stay nights for Jul-Dec will now determine status for the following calendar year? That is a bit clearer for me I think.

So far though, I am getting pretty good value from a monthly Signature subscription (thanks @sudoer) with the reward points subsidising my stays quite nicely and the status points keeping me on track for Platinum retention even though I will likely just miss the 60 nights (looks like I’ll have about 57 nights) thus avoiding the need for a mattress run! And the way I read the T&C, it’s only multiple Accor + that have the 30 night limit - Signature looks to still be able to stack as it does not award nights, and is not Accor+. Have I got that right?

 

[RooFlyer]

Until Oct 1st, status can also be extended outside a calendar year by Joining Accor Plus. This is referenced here:
In my situation it is September, and If I renew now, I would have Platinum until September next year.

Now this is changing.

I need to ensure 1) my auto renewal is turned off, wait until 2) my status to drop from Platinum and 3) the revised program kicks in. Once that happens I expect to have 30 BiB nights already for 2025. Joining the new program will credit a bonus 30 nights giving me the 60 needed for Platinum. I would have this for at least the remainder of this year and the next.

So with all that rigmarole you get an extra three months of platinum at the end of next year?

Not a criticism, just making sure I understand.

 

[Seat0B]

I also think a couple of properties have jumped the gun on the 2 nights minimum stay for using your Accor Plus free night. Last week I tried to book for a single night at MGallery William Angliss Warwick Farm for Thursday night and there were no nights available. I’ve previously used the benefit there. And the booking and the sty were both well before the 1 Oct change over. I also tried for a single night at Melbourne Central Pullman, but in November. Also not available. Maybe that’s because it’s after 1 Oct, but still the booking would be made now.

I hope Accor is not going down the QF Award Flights Hunger Games path with availability of free nights.

 

[MELso]

Until Oct 1st, status can also be extended outside a calendar year by Joining Accor Plus. This is referenced here:
In my situation it is September, and If I renew now, I would have Platinum until September next year.

Now this is changing.

I need to ensure 1) my auto renewal is turned off, wait until 2) my status to drop from Platinum and 3) the revised program kicks in. Once that happens I expect to have 30 BiB nights already for 2025. Joining the new program will credit a bonus 30 nights giving me the 60 needed for Platinum. I would have this for at least the remainder of this year and the next.

Dairyfloss's post was in 2023 and under the old T&Cs. The new T&Cs mean this operates differently, and the old 'best of the last two years' rule dies on 1 October. When 31 December rolls around, they'll look solely at how many nights you accrued in 2025 to determine 2026's status. Unless you already have a way to 30 nights this year, adding Accor Plus won't mean you get platinum next year.

More here: https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au/articles/46408593114009-How-does-this-impact-my-ALL-Accor-status

It's a "a simpler, more transparent way to recognise and reward your loyalty", apparently.

 

[jase05]

I hope Accor is not going down the QF Award Flights Hunger Games path with availability of free nights.

It’s only natural that the more members they have the harder it will be to offer the product.

 

[serfty]

Dairyfloss's post was in 2023 and under the old T&Cs. The new T&Cs mean this operates differently, and the old 'best of the last two years' rule dies on 1 October. When 31 December rolls around, they'll look solely at how many nights you accrued in 2025 to determine 2026's status. Unless you already have a way to 30 nights this year, adding Accor Plus won't mean you get platinum next year.

More here: https://help.accorplus.com/hc/en-au/articles/46408593114009-How-does-this-impact-my-ALL-Accor-status

It's a "a simpler, more transparent way to recognise and reward your loyalty", apparently.

I fully agree. However, until the new system kicks in, I need to be cognisant of the existing system - that why I am posting about it. These circumstances would not affect those such as you with an Accor Plus renewal date of after September anyway. With that, I have determined renewing in October would be beneficial to me than renewing in September.

 

[serfty]

So with all that rigmarole you get an extra three months of platinum at the end of next year?

Yes, as long as I renew before any ongoing stays after September. It's not really that much rigmarole.

 

[aikman]

When I renewed a couple of months ago, my platinum status was extended to June 2026, and is showing in my account as such.

There is no way I will qualify for platinum this year.

Does this mean they will reverse my platinum status to June 2026 and downgrade me to gold on 1 Jan 2026?

 

[MELso]

When I renewed a couple of months ago, my platinum status was extended to June 2026, and is showing in my account as such.

There is no way I will qualify for platinum this year.

Does this mean they will reverse my platinum status to June 2026 and downgrade me to gold on 1 Jan 2026?

You’re ‘Accor Plus platinum’ now. You’ll drop to ‘Accor Plus gold’ on 1 January unless you have 60 nights up on 31 December 2025.

 

[aikman]

They should have launched the new program on 1 Jan to avoid this issue of people being caught out by unexpected status downgrades. This year was my "use points to pay" year as I thought my status was secure until next year.

 

[Flyfrequently]

Thanks ...

I have done some tallying.

Fortunately for me, I'll have 30 BiB status nights by the end of September, so it seems best to renew in October. From what I can make out, this will give me Platinum status until at least the end 2026.

@serfty @Nat
Just to clarify my similar position. Accor + renewal due end of September,.
Currently have retained Gold. till next year notified 28 JulyAt present I have 24 nights in hotels with 6 booked for September giving me 30 nights by 10.9.25
If I renew in September I get 20 nights + 10 bonus giving me Platinum.
Does this have me Platinum until September 2026?
If I hold off and renew in October, when do I keep Platinum until - December 2026?
Thanks, all ( ALL) advice appreciated