Penfolds Re-corking Clinics2

[SOPOOR]

So ive been given 2x 1979 grange, older than me!

Ive actually attended a red wine clinic before and it was fun.

The 2x bottles i have are not leaking, ullage is just higher than the recorking levels. Both the capsule is a bit damaged but cork is fine.

My understanding is that if it goes through the clinic, the foil is removed, tasted and if good topped up, and a certificate pasted on the back.
And this usually increases the value.

Would it be best to get this through the clinic as soon as i can as it would fix the torn capsule and prevent it from.spoiling if not already spoiled.

 

[cove]

Yes we did ours. One was corked and they replaced it.
The 707 is a better wine for drinking in my opinion.

 

[SOPOOR]

Yes we did ours. One was corked and they replaced it.
The 707 is a better wine for drinking in my opinion.

They replace corked ones?!?! I thought it was the "crying room" for those that have them

 

[WrenchHammerMcTool]

And this usually increases the value.

Not sure if this is accurate??

If I am the market for an older Penfolds I will look for a quality non-clinic'd version. Won't go near a clinic'd wine. Just me.

 

[mini2]

They replace corked ones?!?! I thought it was the "crying room" for those that have them

I had one that was borderline between a pass/it's corked, they reluctantly topped it up, then re-corked it, and said drink it within the next couple of years. It tasted OK to my untrained palate, but wasn't as good as the other aged 707 I've tried before.

 

[cove]

Henschke don’t replace failed corks in their top wine. I lost two 1990 Hill of Grace and Stephen said too bad….
Penfolds 707 is still my favourite but I do have almost 40 Penfolds Grange.

 

[Happy Dude]

I have a 96 that has a leaky cork. I'll look at attending one of the next round of clinics in October.

What do they do if it's not corked but just spoiled or past good drinking (most likely due to poor storage in my case). Send you on your way with the bad news?

 

[Happy Dude]

Not sure if this is accurate??

If I am the market for an older Penfolds I will look for a quality non-clinic'd version. Won't go near a clinic'd wine. Just me.

According to the Penfolds website, "Some collectors investing via the secondary market prefer to purchase a re-corked bottle as the condition has been certified, therefore minimising risk." So that could raise it's value.

 

[SOPOOR]

According to the Penfolds website, "Some collectors investing via the secondary market prefer to purchase a re-corked bottle as the condition has been certified, therefore minimising risk." So that could raise it's value.

Thats what most of the websites say "it can" increase in value

That being said of all the really old ones ive seen in photos, none of them seem to have been done

Would they really open a 1951 one, top it up and replace the capsule/cork?

 

[Happy Dude]

Thats what most of the websites say "it can" increase in value

That being said of all the really old ones ive seen in photos, none of them seem to have been done

Would they really open a 1951 one, top it up and replace the capsule/cork?

Depends on the ullage? The blending of the wines does raise a few questions too....

 

[Nigel Feather]

Thats what most of the websites say "it can" increase in value

That being said of all the really old ones ive seen in photos, none of them seem to have been done

Would they really open a 1951 one, top it up and replace the capsule/cork?

Interestingly, MW Wines is selling a Grange vertical at the moment and the 1951 seems to have been re-corked (see attached).

 

[SOPOOR]

Interestingly, MW Wines is selling a Grange vertical at the moment and the 1951 seems to have been re-corked (see attached).

Not that ive seen many for sale. But its the first time ive seen a cliniced grange from 1950s

The 1952 uncliniced one, if clinicing increases or holds value, why wouldnt they just get it done, comes to my mind... but i think the clinics are only held once a year or two years

 

[SOPOOR]

Depends on the ullage? The blending of the wines does raise a few questions too....

The first time i heard they add a current vintage to an old bottle. I was mortified to be honest... its like getting a classic classic car and replacing the head unit with a new big screen led one,
Especially when with wine, its subtle, delicate

 

[Happy Dude]

The first time i heard they add a current vintage to an old bottle. I was mortified to be honest... its like getting a classic classic car and replacing the head unit with a new big screen led one,
Especially when with wine, its subtle, delicate

It's also a bit reminiscent of an underage Happy Dude topping up the vodka in my parents liquor cabinet with water.