Worse than feet on bulkheads

[Cruiser Elite]

I pose a question though. If it's okay to wear pyjamas or the equivalent on the plane then why not in the lounge?

Well I guess the day QF or any other airline start handing out PJ's to lounge guests as they enter the lounge it will be a fair indication that it is ok to wear them in the lounge.

 

[maninblack]

I have seen a fair number of passengers over the years get into their PJ's in the lounge. Easier than in those QF aircraft toilets. I thinks it's fair enough too.

Only QF long haul passengers in J and F get pj's. Of course most people in the so called F lounge are WP's and other interlopers traveling Y to AKL or JQ to DPS or elsewhere.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Do you change into your PJ's in the lounge mib?

 

[jsoprano]

Not sure about the lounge, it makes sense somehow but still I don't think it's right...

Saw a woman on the street yesterday afternoon (in Port Melbourne) carrying her shopping home and wearing a QF PJ top. Now what's the general opinion on that?

 

[Denali]

Not sure about the lounge, it makes sense somehow but still I don't think it's right...
Saw a woman on the street yesterday afternoon (in Port Melbourne) carrying her shopping home and wearing a QF PJ top. Now what's the general opinion on that?

Only the top? I give my VA PJs to my niece, she gets more use out of them and I do.

And a few months ago, about a hundred All Black supporters where wearing AB onsies for their flights to LA/UK - must say, they looked good but that was also because of the novelty factor.

My thoughts are if I wouldn't wear it to Coles or out to dinner, I wont wear it in public. I do dress for comfort when travelling though.

 

[maninblack]

Do you change into your PJ's in the lounge mib?

No I don't but I can understand why you might. I do think that there is something quite undignified and plainly awkward about having to try to get changed in a tiny aircraft toilet cubicle (it's a toilet not a change room) and then emerge in all ones splendour for the whole cabin to observe, street clothes in hand which then have to be packed away in ones carry on.

I do remember the old dark blue SQ Givenchy leisure suits they gave out in F. Pyjamas, leisure suit, lounge suit, it's all in the name really, it's mostly perception.

 

[Mark3000]

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So, we are now 'irrelevant' ???

No, I'm very sorry, I said it was an irrelevant "issue" not that you or anyone else were irrelevant.

 

[legroom]

No, I'm very sorry, I said it was an irrelevant "issue" not that you or anyone else were irrelevant.

I, for one, didn't misunderstand the 'irrelevant' bit.

It is relevant to most people on this forum at least judging by ongoing comments, mostly of the negative kind.

What we do / don't do in public matters when it comes to standards of behavior.

Ever try that word 'irrelevant' to the Club doormen who refuse entry because you're wearing thongs and/or T shirts ?

In the end, you are entitled to hold a view that's different to mine.

Similarly I am entitled to be turned off by something that's considered 'irrelevant' by others.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Having not read through all these posts, I'd like to suggest that's all upbringing (without stereotyping the word).

We all come from different backgrounds.......but also from different inherent diseases......

What seems Ok and natural to some, rings alarm bells for others. I recently disembarked a flight where the guy next to me thought it was AOK to fart all night long.

PJ's in the lounge? Please seat me next to the ox that that deploys the lounge PJ's rather than deploying the mustard gas!

 

[burmans]

Ever try that word 'irrelevant' to the Club doormen who refuse entry because you're wearing thongs and/or T shirts ?.

The trouble with this analogy is that it's the complete reverse of what's happening here. Qantas are the doormen and they are not stopping this, and you aren't convincing anyone (not adhering to your opinion) to accept your opinion. Yes, you are entitled to this opinion but repeated stating of it has had no effect on either on anyone doing it nor it appears Qantas making changes to their rule.

The doormen in this case don't seem to think your view is relevant so irrelevant would appear to be a perfect descriptor, they have their own "standards" and are sticking to them.

 

[Claudius]

Let's think about this logically for a moment. Why would Qantas disallow people who either a) paid for a very expensive ticket which are their big revenue makers or b) fly enough with Qantas to achieve upper tier benefits?

the consequences for doing it are potentially losing a valued customer who will undoubtedly feel humiliated and wrongly done by the company, potentially a PR nightmare given the prevalence of, let's just say, extremely casual dress standards in Australia and the fact Qantas wants to reflect a true blue Aussie image.

the consequences for not doing is upsetting a group of customers who find that behaviour unacceptable, but are unlikely to change airlines or give negative feedback about the airline to heir peers as a consequence.

qantas is simply choosing the lesser of 2 evils knowing they can't please everyone and the last thing a company wants in today's system is be perceived as elitist.

all that said, I have never placed my feet on a bulkhead, table, or any other surface other than the ground, I don't remove my socks during long haul flights, and tend to dress smart casual for flights. I would not want to be seen in the presence of a whole cabin of strangers dressing any different than I would anywhere else on public. But that is my choice and for my own personal mental comfort (guess upbringing and school education play a big role in these).

 

[Cynicor]

thongs is bad enough when in First/Business and associated lounges, no shoes at all....? <sigh>

Or maybe I was just born to live in Downton Abbey.

Heh. I'm in the SYD J lounge right now in thongs and jeans. My goretex boots are right next to me but until boarding the thongs are staying on so my feet don't get hot and sweaty. In Australia I think as long as the safety aspect is there, thongs will be accepted in most places. Definitely the most comfortable option for me right now, my other 4 pairs of shoes I have with me are all checked in.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Heh. I'm in the SYD J lounge right now in thongs .... My goretex boots are right next to me .... my other 4 pairs of shoes I have with me are all checked in.

You travel with 6 pairs of shoes (I'm loosely referring to thongs as shoes)?? :shock:

 

[Cynicor]

You travel with 6 pairs of shoes (I'm loosely referring to thongs as shoes)?? :shock:

You don't??

Gore-boots for outdoors, waterproof/snow proof etc.
Sneakers for morning run, gym work. Casual long walking days such as Disneyland or stomping around various districts.
Black shoes to go with a suit for nice restaurants, I.e 2-3 Michelin star type places, anywhere with a formal dress code
Snowboard boots.
Thongs for pool trip, onsen trips, casual wear or hot days
Dark sneakers/canvas type shoes for casual wear with jeans, shopping in, night clubs etc.
Can add in Après ski shoes too.

This is why I have around 50kg of checked luggage today, I guess, but that includes 2 snowboards and back country kit.

 

[boomy]

So many shoes and you end up wearing thongs in the lounge? nothing against that but weather in SYD is not that hot today and aircon in the lounge usually works well.
I'm exactly the opposite when it comes to packing. For my last trip in Asia and Europe I packed only two pair of shoes (no thongs included ). Was enough for +20 as well as -20 degrees

 

[Denali]

^^ PP lost me at snow. Snow offends me

 

[medhead]

You don't??

Gore-boots for outdoors, waterproof/snow proof etc.
Sneakers for morning run, gym work. Casual long walking days such as Disneyland or stomping around various districts.
Black shoes to go with a suit for nice restaurants, I.e 2-3 Michelin star type places, anywhere with a formal dress code
Snowboard boots.
Thongs for pool trip, onsen trips, casual wear or hot days
Dark sneakers/canvas type shoes for casual wear with jeans, shopping in, night clubs etc.
Can add in Après ski shoes too.

This is why I have around 50kg of checked luggage today, I guess, but that includes 2 snowboards and back country kit.

Really you could cut that down to 3 pairs of shoes. Boots (Made of goretex or otherwise), thongs and the snowboard boots. Change the dinner suit to a less formal suit that matches the boots. (Are there any restaurants that require full evening dress?) Boots can do all those other things including running, except thongs for the gym.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Qantas F lounge this week.

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Let's guess his destination ?

 

[JohnK]

This one was piece of work and a half on SIN-CNX flight in business.



First off 3-4 inch high stilettos against bulkhead without blanket. And then stilettos off and feet on bulkhead underneath blanket. Then towards the end of the flight stilettos back on again and against bulkhead under the blanket.

Some people are amazing. Very little class.

 

[serfty]

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I do remember the old dark blue SQ Givenchy leisure suits they gave out in F. Pyjamas, leisure suit, lounge suit, it's all in the name really, it's mostly perception.

I still have and use on long haul a pair of the SQ Givenchy suits. (Useful design attributes such as a double pocket and zipper collar.)

Back in the 90's, Qantas referred to these garments as "Oversuits" not PJ's and generally gave them only to First PAX.