Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[kamchatsky]

To me one of the keys of WSI success is cheaper parking than SYD. If parking is cheaper there, then a lot of people in Western Sydney will drive and park there and fly from WSI. That would negate the argument of lack of public transport

 

[elanshin]

I wouldn't be worried about airlines signing up to WSI. As operations start (assuming nothing goes lopsided) and the transportation links are smoothed out we'll see more interest in it.

Also i wouldn't be surprised if in the short to medium term the fees at WSI will be lower / subsidised to encourage airlines to add additional services

I don't think airport planners look at day 1 results and call it a success/failure. If we're at these numbers 3-5 years in then we might have a problem.

 

[AuSammy]

Agreed, and from SIN the new SQ flight only departs an hour later than the current SQ211 so chances are passengers will simply choose the airport most suitable for them to travel from.

There’s also “rapid” buses running to major western and south western transport hubs - at present they’re stated to run till 11pm but I’d expect this to be extended once TfNSW gets a better picture of what’s operating at WSI.

I don’t live in Sydney and never have. But when there is a population source greater than the sum of the whole of SA, NT, TAS combined its hard to not imagining it cant support a single airport positioned to service it.

 

[Aeryn]

Moreover, SYD Uber is not cheap. For suburbs such as Strathfield or Parramatta, it will cost around the same to catch Uber from both WSI and SYD.

Do you even know where Strathfield is?

Strathfield is the outer most boundary of inner west, 15.6km from Strathfield to SYD vs 48.9km to WSI. So WSI is 3 times the distance away, so no way will it cost the same in a uber to get to both airports from there.

Paramatta is also 10km closer to SYD than WSI, so whilst the fare difference will be less it should still be more to WSI.

South West Sydney (Liverpool, Campbeltown) will be closer to WSI, but if already on the airport line which Campbeltown is could still be quicker to take the direct train to SYD rather than multiple changes to get to WSI.

Any small savings for flying from WSI over SYD for anyone living in the East, North, Inner West or Inner South would be more than offset by the extra transport costs to get to WSI.

If you live in the South West or outer Western burbs then WSI will be cheaper if there is actually a flight from there to where you want to go.

 

[jase05]

I don’t think people factor in that as well as the local residents there are plenty of other from the rest of Australia who have to do that horrible D->I, I->D transfer and might see WSI as a good alternative.
I know plenty of folk here in ADL including us that have to fly to MEL or SYD to get where we want to go and we try to avoid SYD but if someone like VN operated from WSI and connections from ADL to WSI were good it would definitely be a consideration for us.

 

[kerfuffle]

Paramatta is also 10km closer to SYD than WSI, so whilst the fare difference will be less it should still be more to WSI.

It took a good half an hour plus to drive from Parramatta to the WSI area the day the M12 opened. I'd be using WestConnex and going to SYD instead if I was driving to an airport from Parra

 

[LionKing]

Do you even know where Strathfield is?

Strathfield is the outer most boundary of inner west, 15.6km from Strathfield to SYD vs 48.9km to WSI. So WSI is 3 times the distance away, so no way will it cost the same in a uber to get to both airports from there.

Paramatta is also 10km closer to SYD than WSI, so whilst the fare difference will be less it should still be more to WSI.

South West Sydney (Liverpool, Campbeltown) will be closer to WSI, but if already on the airport line which Campbeltown is could still be quicker to take the direct train to SYD rather than multiple changes to get to WSI.

Any small savings for flying from WSI over SYD for anyone living in the East, North, Inner West or Inner South would be more than offset by the extra transport costs to get to WSI.

If you live in the South West or outer Western burbs then WSI will be cheaper if there is actually a flight from there to where you want to go.

I think you forgot the motorways and tolls.

It cost almost $15 on Westconnex to SYD, and from SYD I think you forgot the airport surcharge.

I travel 40km from USyd to Liverpool and only take 35 minutes.

Strathfield to SYD via congested motorway will be a lot slower than going thru counter traffic to WSI.

 

[justinbrett]

I don’t think people factor in that as well as the local residents there are plenty of other from the rest of Australia who have to do that horrible D->I, I->D transfer and might see WSI as a good alternative.
I know plenty of folk here in ADL including us that have to fly to MEL or SYD to get where we want to go and we try to avoid SYD but if someone like VN operated from WSI and connections from ADL to WSI were good it would definitely be a consideration for us.

I think it will be many decades, if ever, that WSI provides more connections than MEL and BNE.

I think it will be O/D for quite some time, until at least there is a solid domestic network with hourly frequencies on the trunk routes.

 

[jase05]

I think it will be many decades, if ever, that WSI provides more connections than MEL and BNE.

I think it will be O/D for quite some time, until at least there is a solid domestic network with hourly frequencies on the trunk routes.

JQ will be doing ADL-WSI daily within the first 6 months of opening hopefully. Although that doesn’t help us it might help others depending on timing and perhaps other carriers can get in on the act in the coming years

 

[SeatBackForward]

I think it will be many decades, if ever, that WSI provides more connections than MEL and BNE.

I think it will be O/D for quite some time, until at least there is a solid domestic network with hourly frequencies on the trunk routes.

I'm sure the airlines have the stats about this, but we probably all thing of the golden triangle for suits who work around the CBD of respective cities, but without a doubt, most business travellers are spread across all sorts of roles and industries, many of which will be serviced closer to WSI than SYD,

I wouldn't dismiss WSI becoming a business commuters airport easily.