Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[transpactraveller]

Redeye to SIN
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Singapore Airlines launching flights to Western Sydney Airport from November 2026

Singapore Airlines will be the first international carrier at the new Western Sydney Airport, with daily Airbus A350 flights commencing in November 2026.

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and a 10:20pm arrival into Western Sydney.... might just make it into the city by midnight if you're first off the plane, probably no chance by train though.

Unless the fare is cheap enough to offset the expensive taxi/Uber to get out there, we'll stick to SYD.

Good for people who live out that way though. For many this will be almost as inconvenient as flying into NTL. Or going to AVV instead of MEL.

 

[jase05]

and a 10:20pm arrival into Western Sydney.... might just make it into the city by midnight if you're first off the plane, probably no chance by train though.

Unless the fare is cheap enough to offset the expensive taxi/Uber to get out there, we'll stick to SYD.

Good for people who live out that way though. For many this will be almost as inconvenient as flying into NTL. Or going to AVV instead of MEL.

Might be of benefit to those who want to connect from the early LHR flights into SIN or from a whole stack of Asian ports.
Obviously won’t be everyone’s cup of tea but I do think people will be surprised at how popular it is

 

[http_x92]

Hoping JQ has some DPS or NRT routes planned. Bali speaks for itself but Japan has become a very popular place for tourism these days. Maybe SGN as well considering the demographics in that area.

But, I guess they want to see how WSI patronage is before that...

 

[mbe1510]

Given WSI is meant to have the third largest catchment area in the country behind Sydney and Melbourne and ahead of every other capital city in the country, I'm sure there will be decent demand for these flights particularly given how popular Singapore is. Lot of family travel no doubt between WSI and India/Asia hubs.

If priced $50-$100 cheaper in economy, it will appeal to the budget traveller who overseas picks flights from Gatwick or Stanstead in London.

 

[TomVexille]

I expect the SQ flight will be very popular with the multinational Data Centre corporations with site in Eastern Creek and Kemps Park

 

[kookaburra75]

There's also the Canberra market. A lot of us the Murrays bus to get to Sydney International and back, to avoid paying the "Canberra Tax" on CBR-SYD flights and to avoid delays with fog or cancelled flights (which happens all too often). If Murrays set up a similar service to WSI, then that would work for us. The daytime flight would be a bonus.

 

[markis10]

I expect the SQ flight will be very popular with the multinational Data Centre corporations with site in Eastern Creek and Kemps Park

Why? Data centres need power, water and fibre connectivity with trunk land points such as broadway in Sydney, they tend not to have a need for much staff or airports. Next DC has 200 staff for its 30 odd centres, Airtrunk 400 odd. Most of those are cable guys who don’t go anywhere.

 

[justinbrett]

Hoping JQ has some DPS or NRT routes planned. Bali speaks for itself but Japan has become a very popular place for tourism these days. Maybe SGN as well considering the demographics in that area.

But, I guess they want to see how WSI patronage is before that...

Again, won’t be DPS for Australian carriers as there is no available capacity from the major cities.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Again, won’t be DPS for Australian carriers as there is no available capacity from the major cities.

JQ could move existing capacity potentially?

 

[TomVexille]

Why? Data centres need power, water and fibre connectivity with trunk land points such as broadway in Sydney, they tend not to have a need for much staff or airports. Next DC has 200 staff for its 30 odd centres, Airtrunk 400 odd. Most of those are cable guys who don’t go anywhere.

Sure, the technicians may not travel, but Management travel, customers travel.

 

[moa999]

JQ could move existing capacity potentially?

Maybe eventually, once WSI proves it can be just a profitable as SYD (yield and load factor),
But I don't see DPS being in the launch routes.

 

[markis10]

Sure, the technicians may not travel, but Management travel, customers travel.

Air travel in that industry is very rare, something called zoom does the job, I am a recent participant in that at exec level, thank god for LTG

 

[justinbrett]

JQ could move existing capacity potentially?

Why give up proven demand from the major ports (which have feeder routes) for a gamble on WSI?

The capacity is awarded for airline / route combinations, airlines would have to apply to move the capacity.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Why give up proven demand from the major ports (which have feeder routes) for a gamble on WSI?

The capacity is awarded for airline / route combinations, airlines would have to apply to move the capacity.

It's great you have all the numbers in front of you

 

[SeatBackForward]

In my totally un-experted opinion, with no analysis to back it up - I suspect WSI will be a raging success even before they sort out the Transport/Metro and fuel pipeline issues and Airlines will scramble to get flights to/from there.

 

[justinbrett]

It's great you have all the numbers in front of you

I’m guessing that’s a dig but they are available here. Load factors in the mid to high 90s to Indonesia for JQ, VA and QF in the most recent report.

International Airline Activity—Monthly Publications

These reports cover monthly international aircraft, passenger, freight and mail movements, flights, available seats, seat load factors and airline market shares. Details are provided for airline, country, city pair and airport.

www.bitre.gov.au

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I’m guessing that’s a dig but they are available here. Load factors in the mid to high 90s to Indonesia for JQ, VA and QF in the most recent report.

International Airline Activity—Monthly Publications

These reports cover monthly international aircraft, passenger, freight and mail movements, flights, available seats, seat load factors and airline market shares. Details are provided for airline, country, city pair and airport.

www.bitre.gov.au

Load factors don't mean everything if you have to sell a large number of seats for very little

 

[jase05]

I’m guessing that’s a dig but they are available here. Load factors in the mid to high 90s to Indonesia for JQ, VA and QF in the most recent report.

International Airline Activity—Monthly Publications

These reports cover monthly international aircraft, passenger, freight and mail movements, flights, available seats, seat load factors and airline market shares. Details are provided for airline, country, city pair and airport.

www.bitre.gov.au

Yeah, short term I can’t see any DPS flights from WSI

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Yeah, short term I can’t see any DPS flights from WSI

On the contrary I think it will happen pretty quickly. Let's see

 

[justinbrett]

Load factors don't mean everything if you have to sell a large number of seats for very little

So you’re arguing JQ could charge a premium for flights to DPS from WSI vs SYD?

VA isn’t even on board for WSI to MEL/BNE.