Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[Chatswood]

With regards to all the naysayers talking about “well it’s just a commitment, the airlines haven’t confirmed they’ll fly from WSI”, look at what’s popped up on the SQ desktop website. Special launch fares coming soon?

The link leads to a 404 error for now but it looks like it’s ready to go live soon.

 

[LionKing]

With regards to all the naysayers talking about “well it’s just a commitment, the airlines haven’t confirmed they’ll fly from WSI”, look at what’s popped up on the SQ desktop website. Special launch fares coming soon?

The link leads to a 404 error for now but it looks like it’s ready to go live soon.

Hopefully that'll be a late night departure which Sydney desperately needs.

 

[AIRwin]

Hopefully that'll be a late night departure which Sydney desperately needs.

Wonder if flight number will also be SQ2X1/SQ2X2?

 

[kamchatsky]

It would be ironic if the first international flight takes off before first domestic flight at WSI. But hey good news for Western Sydney.

It has to be a midnight departure.

 

[jase05]

It would be ironic if the first international flight takes off before first domestic flight at WSI. But hey good news for Western Sydney.

It has to be a midnight departure.

Domestic are still planned to start first but who knows. At our most recent info session we were told QF/JQ are ready and that both SQ and NZ will start on the same day as each other not long after.

 

[Saab34]

QF/JQ are ready

Which QF subsidiary are operating these?

 

[jase05]

Which QF subsidiary are operating these?

I’m not sure as the details were pretty basic.
But from what was presented it seems the group are looking at around 30-40 flights per day when it opens and hopefully 70-80 flights per day within 6 months. JQ would have around 70% of those initially. I did query a few things that would benefit my job and QF will run the E190’s out of there to start.
I don’t know what QF’s fleet management looks like and don’t know of other services will be affected to cover it

 

[Chatswood]

It would be ironic if the first international flight takes off before first domestic flight at WSI. But hey good news for Western Sydney.

It has to be a midnight departure.

It seems sensible for a midnight departure given SQ seems to have a bank of early morning flights arriving in SIN (5-6am) from BNE, MEL, PER, and DRW at present.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a morning departure ex-SIN at a time similar to the current SQ211 which arrives at 9pm and sits overnight in SYD.

 

[dajop]

It seems sensible for a midnight departure given SQ seems to have a bank of early morning flights arriving in SIN (5-6am) from BNE, MEL, PER, and DRW at present.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a morning departure ex-SIN at a time similar to the current SQ211 which arrives at 9pm and sits overnight in SYD.

Supports a range of connections across SE Asia and beyond (including London, Mumbai, Shanghai, Tokyo, Osaka, Seoul, Xiamen, Guangzhou).

 

[HS-TQE]

Domestic are still planned to start first but who knows. At our most recent info session we were told QF/JQ are ready and that both SQ and NZ will start on the same day as each other not long after.

Air New Zealand is scheduled to start WSI-AKL flights in mid 2027.

https://minister.infrastructure.gov.au/c-king/media-release/western-sydney-international-lands-air-new-zealand

 

[LionKing]

Supports a range of connections across SE Asia and beyond (including London, Mumbai, Shanghai, Tokyo, Osaka, Seoul, Xiamen, Guangzhou).

And also more options to transit to Hong Kong as well.

 

[http_x92]

Went down the M12 motorway today and I saw the sphere structure at the airport intersection.

100kmh speed limit except towards the end. 25 mins from Liverpool.

 

[transpactraveller]

Brand new and only built for 100 instead of 110?

Driving through Europe last year and almost all motorways were 130 with some sections 120.

 

[Saab34]

Brand new and only built for 100 instead of 110?

Driving through Europe last year and almost all motorways were 130 with some sections 120.

Are Australian drivers capable of driving at such speeds? Some of the nonsense I regularly see on the roads that are 100 is bad enough.

The issue with 120/130 in Oz is I know most will sit 5-10 below the limit which is annoying.

 

[Quickstatus]

Brand new and only built for 100 instead of 110?

When the M7 motorway was built, the speed limit was also 100

 

[pauly7]

Air New Zealand is scheduled to start WSI-AKL flights in mid 2027.

https://minister.infrastructure.gov.au/c-king/media-release/western-sydney-international-lands-air-new-zealand

The state NZ are in at the moment, wouldn’t be at all surprised if this didn’t eventuate / didn’t last long.

 

[LionKing]

Went down the M12 motorway today and I saw the sphere structure at the airport intersection.

100kmh speed limit except towards the end. 25 mins from Liverpool.

How long did it take from M7 intersection to the end of M12?
I think from SYD to WSI, it does take about 35-40 minutes with M8, M5, M7 and M12, however it will ballon to 75 minutes during peak hours.
Perhaps if that's the case, Qantas can do SYD-WSI transfers on a single ticket with MCT of 120-150 minutes for domestic, and 180 minutes for international-domestic v.v.?

 

[http_x92]

How long did it take from M7 intersection to the end of M12?

From the Elizabeth Drive entrance, probably takes 10-15 to get there.

From SYD-WSI, 40-45 minutes sounds about right with clear traffic.

 

[dajop]

Not sure why there would be a need for QF operated WSI/sYD transfers. Different markets. People who transfer between the two are only going to do so for lower fares.

Globally AA doesn’t run a transfer bus from JFK to LGA, BA won’t get you from LHR to LGW. JL and NH don’t operate shuttles between HND and NRT. AF leaves you to get between ORY and CDG. Often there will be shuttles/ bus services operated independently but can’t think of any that are airline operated.

 

[HS-TQE]

Agreed, that's just like QF/VA/JQ running "transfer buses" between MCY/OOL and BNE.

It seems that WSI hasn't been convincing in attracting airlines for their launch months apart from QF/JQ and SQ (which has been confirmed in earlier posts in this thread of posting a WSI specific promo early).

Despite "newspaper analysts" from various News Corp and 9media rags saying that VA are 'missing out' by not launching WSI on launch day, VA's planners dont seem convinced (as evidenced by their planned mid 2026 modest flight increases elsewhere ex SYD and MEL/CBR) despite the NSW government subsidies on offer for VA to start some WSI flights.