Vocal minority leads the charge on airport noise complaints

[harvyk]

Vocal minority leads the charge on airport noise complaints | News.com.au

Seriously, why wouldn't these 20 people just move? Surely it would be easier than sitting there making 12,000 complaints, or averaging 600 complaints per person...

 

[thewinchester]

Sorry, but this is where the complaining is beyond a joke, and I'm going to rant a little here - strap in.

The airport was likely there long before you were, and if you didn't bother to find out how it might effect you then tough luck.

If you did, and you still moved there not thinking that the noise would increase over the years to come as more and more people use air travel to get long distances - you're a bigger dope than first thought.

One person in Sydney was responsible for a third of the total complaints - he should be throttled back accordingly to ensure that his voice isn't crowding out that of others, specially when he shows he's overly sensitive to it.

This level of complaining is a waste of agency time. The time & resources spent dealing with this could be far better spent on rolling out RNP for all capital airports... or maybe, just maybe getting plans for a second airport in the Sydney basin finally moving (yeah, dream on).

Sorry, I have no time for NIMBY's and numptys who think the world should always conform to their needs. Air transport is an essential part of life, economic development and the landscape. If you don't like it, move somewhere else.

 

[dajop]

Seriously, why wouldn't these 20 people just move? Surely it would be easier than sitting there making 12,000 complaints, or averaging 600 complaints per person...

That's quite incredible, that's one complaint per person every 14hrs and 36 minutes! For the whole year!

 

[nlagalle]

The airport was likely there long before you were, and if you didn't bother to find out how it might effect you then tough luck.

Oh how I so agree with that quote!

mind you i was actually looking at one point at house near Moorabbin airport, so i could go flying much easily!! Noise wouldn't bother me!

 

[NM]

Maybe we could all start sending letters of praise about aircraft noise? We could send 12,000 letters over the year to cancel the effect the 20 serial-complainers

 

[ejb]

Hi all,

I actually purchased a unit in Mascot to be close to the airport and thought that the noise wouldn't bother me too much but after a while it did impact my life.

Instead of complaining and trying to have the airport closed during TV time and when I wanted to quietly read I MOVED to the Northern Beaches where life is quiet, a little too quiet after spending years in the city and then Mascot.

It is a very simple thing to do, you phone Mr Hooker and he sells your home and you find a new one away from the noise.

ejb

 

[NYCguy]

It's time they were declared vexatious complainants, and sent official letters stating that, from the date the letter was sent, their complaints will no longer granted any consideration.

If they don't like it, let them sue. They'll eventually be declared vexatious litigants by the Court too.

 

[thewinchester]

Maybe we could all start sending letters of praise about aircraft noise? We could send 12,000 letters over the year to cancel the effect the 20 serial-complainers

I like this idea, how do we get started!

It's time they were declared vexatious complainants, and sent official letters stating that, from the date the letter was sent, their complaints will no longer granted any consideration.

If they don't like it, let them sue. They'll eventually be declared vexatious litigants by the Court too.

Totally agreed, it's a complete waste of the public service's time.

 

[munitalP]

Sorry, but this is where the complaining is beyond a joke, and I'm going to rant a little here - strap in.

The airport was likely there long before you were, and if you didn't bother to find out how it might effect you then tough luck.

If you did, and you still moved there not thinking that the noise would increase over the years to come as more and more people use air travel to get long distances - you're a bigger dope than first thought.

One person in Sydney was responsible for a third of the total complaints - he should be throttled back accordingly to ensure that his voice isn't crowding out that of others, specially when he shows he's overly sensitive to it.

This level of complaining is a waste of agency time. The time & resources spent dealing with this could be far better spent on rolling out RNP for all capital airports... or maybe, just maybe getting plans for a second airport in the Sydney basin finally moving (yeah, dream on).

Sorry, I have no time for NIMBY's and numptys who think the world should always conform to their needs. Air transport is an essential part of life, economic development and the landscape. If you don't like it, move somewhere else.

:like:

agreed

munitalP

 

[yohy?!]

It's probably a good thing really that only 20 people generated so many complaints, it shows that it's nothing of the issue it was in the 90s.

So how long until capacity constraints start pushing the curfew back?

 

[Mal]

It's probably a good thing really that only 20 people generated so many complaints, it shows that it's nothing of the issue it was in the 90s.

What, you mean the ~$300 million that WE paid as travellers to noise proof homes around Sydney Airport actually worked? And that airplanes have become quieter over the years?

The Govt should buy out the noisy complainants, and put them in a house backing onto one of the M roads in Sydney. That will sort out their noise complaints about aircraft.

 

[oz_mark]

If you are going to have airports so close to city centres, then it is somewhat inevitable that you are going to get complaints.

 

[notzac]

If you are going to have airports so close to city centres, then it is somewhat inevitable that you are going to get complaints.

Sure - but there's legitimate complaints for specific things and then there's taking the piss. Srsly, don't like airplane noise? Don't live near an airport. Kinda simple, one would have thought.

 

[straitman]

Sure - but there's legitimate complaints for specific things and then there's taking the piss. Srsly, don't like airplane noise? Don't live near an airport. Kinda simple, one would have thought.

What impeccable logic you have :!: :shock:

 

[oz_mark]

Sure - but there's legitimate complaints for specific things and then there's taking the piss. Srsly, don't like airplane noise? Don't live near an airport. Kinda simple, one would have thought.

Keep in mind that whole noise issue at Sydney grew out of the opening of the parallel runway in the id 1990's. This had a significant impact on things like flight paths etc, and had significant impacts on people that were previously not so affected by the noise (hence the double glazing noise tax referred to above).

The airport may have been there quite a long time, but the parallel runway and resultant noise distribution are a much more recent occurence.

 

[harvyk]

Keep in mind that whole noise issue at Sydney grew out of the opening of the parallel runway in the id 1990's. This had a significant impact on things like flight paths etc, and had significant impacts on people that were previously not so affected by the noise (hence the double glazing noise tax referred to above).

The airport may have been there quite a long time, but the parallel runway and resultant noise distribution are a much more recent occurence.

True, but airports have never been considered whisper quite neighbours. You can not move next to such a major piece of infrastucture which is well known for noise, and then be surprised about noise.

In any case it does prove that the problem about aircraft noise isn't anywhere near as big as the original numbers might show, because the question can now be asked, out of the remaining complaints, how many has each person submitted. It may not be 600 per year, but a single person may have made 5 or 6 complaints in a year without too much trouble.

 

[straitman]

Having stayed at Vandenberg AFB in California i can tell you about noise. See latest launch schedule.

On the base there were only two helicopters so no issue. it was just the Minuteman II & III and other rockets and missiles that made your average airport look like a quiet zone.

 

[v8Statesman]

It's probably a good thing really that only 20 people generated so many complaints, it shows that it's nothing of the issue it was in the 90s.

So how long until capacity constraints start pushing the curfew back?

If SYD is to busy QF can have PER as its HUB, after all it is 24hr

 

[JohnK]

I am going to take the other side. Why shouldn't people have the right to complain about aircraft noise without being ridiculed. Sure some of these people are responsible for most of the complaints but they still have a point.

It is a very simple thing to do, you phone Mr Hooker and he sells your home and you find a new one away from the noise.

Not actually as simple as you think. When you purchase a house in 1974 in a quiet suburb and there is no aircraft noise then all of a sudden someone living on the North Shore gets to lead the country and changes the majority of the flight paths away from the Liberal electorates.

We did not receive any money for insulating our home from airport noise as we are considered too far. I tell you it is not too far when every 2 minutes there is an airplane overhead and can hardly hear the television. It gets extremely frustrating and annoying. And then the jumbos landing waking everyone up before 6:00am on a lot of mornings.

So to answer your question we did not live under a flight path when we purchased the house in 1974 where as the people in Kiribilli and North Shore knew exactly what they were purchasing. We do not want to spoil the value of their homes do we?

 

[samh004]

So to answer your question we did not live under a flight path when we purchased the house in 1974 where as the people in Kiribilli and North Shore knew exactly what they were purchasing. We do not want to spoil the value of their homes do we?

Exactly, they knew where the airport was and where the flightpaths are, so they shouldn’t have a say. None at all.

Airports expand, they get bigger because it’s a good form of transport and more and more people use them, so instead of building houses and businesses closer to the airport and then complaining about the noise, they should be building in the other direction. Ugh!