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visector said:
Nope judging by the smell the bottle was half finished quite some time ago
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Salvation cases are (at least partly) made up from returned orders. I usually return the empty bottle that I tried, occasionally if it is really bad the returned bottle may have a fair amount wine still in it. I guess others do to, looks like VM missed it.
I didn't return my Rock Ferry Pinot, so it wasn't me. :)

I once received a bottle of Alpha Crucis Shiraz that was about 3/4 full, the screwcap was intact, so obviously a bottling line failure, which is the other option for the Rock Ferry, only if the screwcap was unbroken.
 
wine-muller said:
This has magically appeared over night:

Mitolo Wines - Products - Mitolo Cantiniere Cabernet Sauvignon

$ don't match up, but the rest does.
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I echo the sentiments of one of my subscribers:
"[FONT=&quot]No, sounds like too much BS for me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They have not even got their "made up" retails prices right. mof_ saying $50, and the website showing $68.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I wonder if they ever sold any at $68 or $50. Doubt it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I don't like this sort of marketing.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They must think we are stupid."[/FONT]
 
redbigot said:
Salvation cases are (at least partly) made up from returned orders. I usually return the empty bottle that I tried, occasionally if it is really bad the returned bottle may have a fair amount wine still in it. I guess others do to, looks like VM missed it.
I didn't return my Rock Ferry Pinot, so it wasn't me. :)

I once received a bottle of Alpha Crucis Shiraz that was about 3/4 full, the screwcap was intact, so obviously a bottling line failure, which is the other option for the Rock Ferry, only if the screwcap was unbroken.
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I've never ordered their salvation cases, and never will, as I think they truly cross the line of deceitful advertising.

Besides these salvation cases, their shotgun approach to marketing every single deal is quite cheesy - every wine is talked up like it's exceptional. I actually don't fault them on this though - if that's the marketing approach they want to take, then buyer beware, there are plenty of resources to check before you pull the trigger, or simply use their return policy. I have no doubt that they opt for cheap labour fresh out of uni to write "creative" ads. What's disappointing is that I could train a child to look up the actual tasting notes and write something closer to the actual truth (e.g. they will market a 'thin' wine as 'big'). Anywho....

However, I think how they market the salvation cases is pure scum marketing that is 100% deceitful. For example, verbatim from one, "cases that are returned to the warehouse when a bottle is broken in transit, which leaves us with the remainder of the case in perfect condition." Sorry, that is an outright lie. Just Think Outside the Circle to know that they are repackaging all of the duds that others have returned.
 
vedder50 said:
I've never ordered their salvation cases, and never will, as I think they truly cross the line of deceitful advertising.

However, I think how they market the salvation cases is pure scum marketing that is 100% deceitful. For example, verbatim from one, "cases that are returned to the warehouse when a bottle is broken in transit, which leaves us with the remainder of the case in perfect condition." Sorry, that is an outright lie. Just Think Outside the Circle to know that they are repackaging all of the duds that others have returned.
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I ordered one Salvation Case back in the brief period of their ownership by Catch of the Day. That batch was so full of cheap junk that I and everyone I know who bought it sent it back.

If a bottle in a case is broken it's likely that some/many of the labels in the same box will be stained. So you are getting a mix of what hasn't sold and what has been returned by someone who didn't like it (not necessarily meaning it's a bad wine), plus the odd "sweetener".

From what I've seen there occasional good mixes received, but I'll never order one.
 
Vedder, I agree. Except that sometimes beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A sow's ear might be someone else's silk purse. But others would argue that a dud is the same spelled front or back.
 
By the way full price for the [h=1]Cave De Roquebrun 'Les Fiefs D'Aupenac' Shiraz Blend 2013


[/h]on Vinofo but in NZ Wine Direct is 22-99 not 45-00 per bottle; cheaper in NZ!

Also the bordeaux Marsau 2012 was selling on Langton auctions for it's 2010 at 10-00 to 20-00; right price for largely tank aged red in my opinion.

Most of the fun is dissecting the good wines and good value wines.
 
Piker said:
Vedder, I agree. Except that sometimes beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A sow's ear might be someone else's silk purse. But others would argue that a dud is the same spelled front or back.
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I'm not really questioning that some people might actually enjoy the 'duds,' tastes are certainly subjective. I just think it's blatant false advertising on what is largely returned product.

For folks like us on this forum who monitor what they are offering it doesn't necessarily affect us, but their average joe consumer isn't aware they are buying others' returns.
 
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Piker said:
By the way full price for the Cave De Roquebrun 'Les Fiefs D'Aupenac' Shiraz Blend 2013 on Vinofo but in NZ Wine Direct is 22-99 not 45-00 per bottle; cheaper in NZ!
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VM aren't selling it for $45 - they're selling it for $25. And the fact that something costs a different price in another country is hardly a surprise.
Most things cost different amounts if you buy them somewhere else, especially given floating exchange rates (and thus ad valorem taxes) vary pretty much every day.
 

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