SQ business RTW fare rules

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  1. aspro2

    aspro2 Member

    Nov 26, 2004
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    1
    MEL
    After a touch of chagrin:oops: at mislaying the source of fare rules for the SQ-only business RTW, I hereby attempt to redeem myself by revealing the current rules for Australia.:mrgreen: BUT KiwiFlyer was right in suspecting SQ would apply surcharges even on its own RTW and not just on the *A one.:evil:



    ROUTING

    VALID SQ SERVICES VIA NORTH/CENTRAL
    PACIFIC ONLY - CT/OJ
    1.ALL TVL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS EAST/
    WESTBOUND GLOBAL DIRECTION.
    2.TVL MUST ORIGIN/TERMINATE IN AUST ONLY.
    3.INTERMED SURFACE SCTRS PMTD AT PAX OWN
    EXPENSE-ONWARD TVL IN SAME GLOBAL DIR.
    4.BACKTRACKING NOT PMTD - EXCEPT BTWN ANY
    TWO SQ ONLINE EUROPEAN DEST.
    5.NO CITY IS TO BE TRANSITED MORE THAN
    ONCE BTWN THE POINT OF ORIGIN AND THE
    FINAL DEST EXCEPT: TRANSITING TWICE AT
    SIN PMTD TO ENABLE PAX TO RT TO AUST.
    6.ENROUTE PAX EXPENSES SHALL NOT BE
    ABSORBED BY THE CARRIERS.
    7.SQ BUSINESS PLUS SURCHARGES ON B773ER
    NON-STOP SERVICES: LEVIED ON BUSINESS CLS
    RTW PAX TRAVELLING ON FOLLOWING SQB773ER
    NON-STOP SERVICES.
    SECTOR FLT NBR EFF SURCHARGE
    SIN-HKG V.V. SQ862/861 06DEC06 USD300
    SIN-PAR V.V. SQ334/333 05DEC06 USD500
    SIN-MIL V.V. SQ378/377 20DEC06 USD500
    SIN-BCN V.V. SQ378/377 20DEC06 USD500
    SIN-ZRH V.V. SQ346/345 22JAN07 USD500
    8.THE SURCHARGE AMOUNT MUST BE REFLECTED
    AS A Q-SURCHARGE AFTER THE B773ER SECTOR.
    9.THE SURCHARGES WILL NOT APPLY TO FIRST
    CLASS RTW PAX.
    10.NO DISCOUNT APPLY.


    CODESHARE

    SQ21-22/SQ37-38/SQ1000-6280/SQ6283-6294/
    SQ6297-7999 AND SQ9000-9999 CODESHARE
    FLIGHTS NOT PERMITTED.


    VALIDITY

    MIN: NIL MAX: 1 YEAR


    RESERVATIONS

    SQ - M CLASS - ECONOMY CLASS
    - D CLASS - BUSINESS CLASS
    - A CLASS - FIRST CLASS
    MI - S CLASS - ECONOMY CLASS
    - Y CLASS - ECONOMY CLASS
    - C CLASS - BUSINESS CLASS
    J CLASS - BUSINESS CLASS


    RES NOTES

    FIRST INTERNATIONAL OUTBOUND SECTOR MUST
    BE CONFIRMED PRIOR TO TKTG.
    ALL SCTRS MUST BE CONFIRMED PRIOR TKTG.
    OPENDATED/WAITLIST SCTRS NOT PMTD.


    TICKETING

    ECONOMY CLASS ONLY: DEADLINE: 14 DAYS
    BUSINESS/FIRST CLASS: NO RESTRICTIONS
    PTAS PERMITTED. BSR MUST BE USED FOR FARE
    CONVERSION.


    STOPOVERS

    A MIN OF 3 STOPS REQUIRED. FIRST/BUSINESS
    ONLY: S/OVER IN SIN IN BOTH DIR PMTD
    PROVIDED THE STAY DOES NOT EXCEED 14 DAYS
    IN EACH DIR. STOPOVERS SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC
    RIGHT RESTRICTIONS. NOTE: SQ HAS OWN
    STOPOVER TRAFFIC RIGHTS IN EUROPE.
    CONTACT SQ FOR MORE INFO


    SIDE-TRIPS

    ONE SIDE-TRIP ON SQ SERVICES PERMITTED
    TO/FROM SIN:
    SIDETRIP: ECONOMY BUSINESS FIRST
    SIN-MNL V.V. 684 875 1199
    SIN-BKK V.V. 529 619 896
    SIN-PEN V.V. 197 237 279
    SIN-SGN V.V. 375 548 711
    SIN-HAN V.V. 563 825 1073
    NOTE: THESE SIDE-TRIPS MUST NOT BE SOLD
    OR TICKETED SEPARATELY.
    ONE OW/RT SIDE-TRIP ON MI SERVICES
    PERMITTED TO/FROM SIN: OW OW
    SECTOR V.V. ECONOMY BUSINESS
    SIN-HKT/MES/PDG USD115 USD216
    SIN-MDC/PNH/RGN/BPN/REP USD220 USD390
    SIN-KMG/XMN/CEB/DVO/TRV USD254 USD519
    SIN-LGK* USD100 USD130
    SIN-CNX/AMI/SOC USD148 USD302
    *J CLASS ONLY
    NOTE: RT ADD-ON IS TWICE THE OW.


    DISCOUNTS

    CHD 2-11 YRS PAY 67 PCT OF FARE. INF
    UNDER 2 YRS PAY 67 PCT OF FARE -
    OCCUPYING A SEAT. INF UNDER 2 YRS PAY 10
    PCT OF FARE - NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
    NOTE: ONLY ONE INF SHALL ACCOMPANY EACH
    ADT PAX. ANY ADDTL INF WILL BE CHARGED 67
    PCT OF THE ADT FARE AND A SEAT WILL BE
    RESERVED. UNACCOMPANIED CHD/INF NOT PMTD.


    COMBINATIONS

    1.AUST DOM FARES WHICH ARE COMBINABLE
    WITH INTL FARES F/J/Y/KIX ETC.
    2.VISIT AMERICA FARES PERMITTED.
    3.ANY OTHER FARES BETWEEN EAST/WEST
    COASTS OF CONTINENTAL USA/CANADA.
    NOTE: FARES SHOWN SEP ON THE INTL TKT.


    TAX

    APPLIC TAXES/SURCHARGES MUST BE COLLECTED
    IN ADDITION TO AIRFARE. REFER]


    PAYMENT

    INVOICE. CREDIT CARDS PERMITTED.


    CHANGES

    AFTER DEADLINE: ECONOMY: FIRST INTL SCTR
    NOT PMTD. OTHER SECTORS PMTD AT AUD22.
    AFTER DEP: ANY TKTS REQUIRING REISSUANCE
    AT ANY OVERSEAS SQ OFFICES WILL BE CHARGE
    A FEE OF AUD47 PER TRANS.


    CANX/REFUNDS

    PRIOR DEPARTURE:25PCT PLUS AUD22 FEE.
    AFTER DEP: FARE REASSESSED LESS CANX FEE


     

  2. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
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    Thanks aspro2 :)

    So fare is A$8399 +++, which is considerably cheaper than FRWSTAR1 (this fare is more restrictive than that though).

    Best routing to maximise experience, F sectors, PPS earning and avoid (for now) 77W surcharge would seem to be

    SYD-SIN-HKG-SFO//JFK-FRA//LHR-SIN-SYD

    The backtracking rule prevents extra earning between SIN & NRT by disallowing BKK transit.

    3+1.5+6+4.5+6+3=24 PPS sectors.
     
  3. openseat

    openseat Active Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    637
    76
    SYD
    Thanks for putting up these rules aspro2. I am thinking very carefully about this fare.
    Just one small question regarding the 77W restrictions: do they only apply for the mentioned routes or could you book SFO-ICN-SIN (for example) and miss the surcharges?
     
  4. aspro2

    aspro2 Member

    Nov 26, 2004
    175
    1
    MEL
    I'm not sure when that service started, so it might just have been missing from the fare rules because it wasn't active yet. Nonetheless, you almost certainly have to reckon with the surcharges on any 77W route.
     
  5. Kiwi Flyer

    Kiwi Flyer Senior Member

    Sep 24, 2004
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    SQ adds surcharges for 77W flights once they are confirmed in their schedules. So the only way to beat the surcharge is either award (dang near impossible to get at least in first and business class) or by booking a flight before a switches over to 77W is confirmed.
     
  6. serfty

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    Nov 16, 2004
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    Does one get a refund in the event that while scheduled on a 77W and a surcharge applied, the flight does not actually get operated by a 77W?
     
  7. openseat

    openseat Active Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    637
    76
    SYD
    The best laid plans of mice and men.....

    Oh well, it was worth asking the question! It seems it will have to be SQ1 via HKG.

    Thanks very much for your assistance.
     
  8. cssaus

    cssaus Active Member

    Dec 13, 2004
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    Sydney
    Can some explain in plain English what these code share rules mean?
     
  9. serfty

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    I hazard a guess that the SQ flight numbers mentioned are codeshare flight on the "metal" of other carriers and are not permitted to be booked using this fare.

    Surpring to me though that this implies several low flight numbers (SQ21-22/SQ37-38) are actually codeshares.

    Perhaps if you ask on FT on either the *A or SQ fora.
     
  10. oz_mark

    oz_mark Enthusiast

    Jun 30, 2002
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    I think SQ21/22 are the Singapore-New York flight numbers, and SQ37/38 are the Singapore-Loas Angeles flight numbers. I guess they exclude these two 'special' non-stop flights. The others are codeshares with various airlines.
     
  11. cssaus

    cssaus Active Member

    Dec 13, 2004
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    Sydney
    So in other words, with an SQ RTW ticket you can't use the non-stop flights to the US departing out of Singapore.
     
  12. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

    Mar 6, 2005
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    That's correct.

     
  13. LAXCDGHKG

    LAXCDGHKG Newbie

    May 12, 2008
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    Hi having decided to resign with AF because they are bad, I'd like to take the opportunity to fly within star alliance.

    I'm currently in France and I would like to buy a RTW ex MNL FRWSTAR1.

    May I find a TA in france that will do the job ?

    Tks for your reply
     
  14. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

    Mar 6, 2005
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    Yes a TA in France would get you the ex-MNL fare as 'higher of 2 locations' pricing' rule no longer applies to RWSTARs.

    Alternatively you could put together the itinerary on www.staralliance.com, and send it to a *A carrier of your choice to book and price the itinerary.
     
  15. MelUser

    MelUser Established Member

    Aug 6, 2007
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    Excuse my ignorance, but what is the higher of 2 locations rule?
     
  16. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

    Mar 6, 2005
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    The rule that forces you to pay the higher of price of origin vs point of purchase. xONEx fares still have this rule, albeit with Canadian exception. The rule's been eliminated altogether from RWSTAR fares earlier this year, meaning it's now possible to issue an ex-NRT or MNL RWSTAR with an airline or TA in MEL (or CDG in the above example) at the NRT or MNL pricing.
     
  17. LAXCDGHKG

    LAXCDGHKG Newbie

    May 12, 2008
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    After filling up the form abt my RTW, LX sent me a mail and told me that my trip is clear, so I called them and my ticket is now issued !!! I paid 5600 Euros its like $8700 US.

    Thanks for your help.
     
  18. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

    Mar 6, 2005
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    No worries - enjoy ur trip. :D

    And a belated :oops: welcome to AFF...:)
     
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