Should J & F be AO? (Kids we dont want you in Business class!)

[TonyHancock]

And of course there are the times when there is no fault-I remember a DJ flight to MCY when there was a young mother with an infant she was trying to feed in the A seat.Her 2 year old bored and screaming kid in the B seat and me in C.Simply by getting out the inflight magazine and starting off with the pictures of planes i soon had the toddler quiet to the gratitude of his mother.So rather than complaining,grimacing etc sometimes we as other pax can be of help.

I think this is a good approach, and one that MrsH pursues very successfully. I think in these modern times a lot of people, particularly male, will be hesitant to interact with other folks children on a flight. It is sad times that we live in.

 

[drron]

I think this is a good approach, and one that MrsH pursues very successfully. I think in these modern times a lot of people, particularly male, will be hesitant to interact with other folks children on a flight. It is sad times that we live in.

Yes it is sad but I did ask the mother first.

 

[JohnPhelan]

For those who have not started having their children travelling in the front think very carefully about it.
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So if you are travelling with a child, what do you suggest? Parents in F/J and child in Y? Surely not. And even more of an issue if you only have the one child travelling and they would be down the back on their own. Who supervises them then?

Families need to be sitting together, especially if the children are young. That way parents have to take responsibility for their children, and model the appropriate way to behave on an aircraft.

If parents are travellling and truly believe that their child should not be in F/J, then the solution is simple - the whole group flies in Y.

 

[cove]

Other choices could be
Travel with a nanny who is with the kids in Y or
Book the whole J section in a smaller plane

Both of these are American ideas I have seen applied only it would be First rather than Business Class and yes they would take the lot.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

So if you are travelling with a child, what do you suggest? Parents in F/J and child in Y? Surely not. And even more of an issue if you only have the one child travelling and they would be down the back on their own. Who supervises them then?

Families need to be sitting together, especially if the children are young. That way parents have to take responsibility for their children, and model the appropriate way to behave on an aircraft.

If parents are travellling and truly believe that their child should not be in F/J, then the solution is simple - the whole group flies in Y.

Have seen on more than one occasion on QF where parents book themselves in J & the kids in Y & wanting the kids to sit directly behind them in the first row of whY.

Only problem is if kids are sitting in a separate class to the adults they must be treated as UM's (if they are between the ages on 5 to 14 inclusive) and as such are to be seated at the rear of the whY cabin with the other UM's.

In one instance as one of the kids was under 5 they were too young to be classified as a UM to one parent remained in J with one kid & the other parent had to sit in whY with the other 2 kids.

 

[TonyHancock]

Have seen on more than one occasion on QF where parents book themselves in J & the kids in Y & wanting the kids to sit directly behind them in the first row of whY.

Had an experience of being asked to move back one row in J, on a CX flight, to accommodate a family who wanted to sit together. I duly obliged.

Turned out the parents were in the last row of F and the kids in the first row of J. :shock:

Won't be helping out if asked again....but that is another thread!

In reality, and it has been said here many times, it is not about the kids, it is about the parents.

I racked up 398 hours on a plane last year in J/Y/Y+ and I can honestly say that I can count on the fingers of one hand the times when I experienced any, even, minor problems with kids. Even these problems, normally a baby crying...and that can't be helped, were not particularly an issue for me.

 

[straitman]

Easy, when the kids are old enough to pay for it themselves (ie. Working) then they can pay for it.

It was good enough for me, so why not my kids?

Agreed :!:

I will weaken once and once only. I have decided when I turn 60, I'm going to take Mrs LW on a First Class RTW. I'll buy the kids J RTW (as it will be their 18th & 21st presents). They will know our itinerary and can join us wherever they want, but all other costs will be borne by them.

Not happening in my case. (The F or J RTW for us may happen but the J for the kids won't :!

.... and I hope they are reading this.

 

[ozmille]

Agreed :!:

Not happening in my case. (The F or J RTW for us may happen but the J for the kids won't :!

.... and I hope they are reading this.

I'm the same but then with my parents

 

[TonyHancock]

I'm just hoping Lindsay Wilson will adopt me. I'll happily sit in J whilst my newly adopted parents are in F, and I promise to behave on the flight too!

 

[BadgerBoi]

Had an experience of being asked to move back one row in J, on a CX flight, to accommodate a family who wanted to sit together. I duly obliged.

Turned out the parents were in the last row of F and the kids in the first row of J. :shock:

Won't be helping out if asked again....but that is another thread!

+1

Looking forward to reading the story. No doubt the seat you moved to was worse than the seat you had.

How old were the kids, out of interest? Did the parents stick to the F cabin or did they disrupt J by constantly invading?

 

[dfcatch]

I'm just hoping Lindsay Wilson will adopt me. I'll happily sit in J whilst my newly adopted parents are in F, and I promise to behave on the flight too!

Me too, me too, pick me pick me

 

[TonyHancock]

Looking forward to reading the story. No doubt the seat you moved to was worse than the seat you had.

How old were the kids, out of interest? Did the parents stick to the F cabin or did they disrupt J by constantly invading?

In the front row of business in the Cathay 340's (It may be 330's or even both) there is a shelf that is perfect for resting the laptop on in meal services) I specifically pick the bulkhead for this reason.

One of the kids would have been a teenager and the other a bit younger. The younger one was back and forth to the parents! :shock:

I wouldn't have minded giving up the seat if the family was genuinely sitting together.

 

[TonyHancock]

I racked up 398 hours on a plane last year in J/Y/Y+ and I can honestly say that I can count on the fingers of one hand the times when I experienced any, even, minor problems with kids. Even these problems, normally a baby crying...and that can't be helped, were not particularly an issue for me.

Oh how that has come back to haunt me!

Not on a plane, but in the F lounge at Sydney. Three screaming children and parents with no control.

"Oh darling I'm not sure you should be doing that!" as child climbs over dividers and furniture.

 

[Smackbum]

Oh how that has come back to haunt me!

Not on a plane, but in the F lounge at Sydney. Three screaming children and parents with no control.

"Oh darling I'm not sure you should be doing that!" as child climbs over dividers and furniture.

Don't worry - the business lounge at T1 is like a creche today! Fortunately there are only 2 screaming babies and I managed to find a seat after a family of four consolidated their bags.

I wonder what the flight is going to be like .....

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Oh how that has come back to haunt me!

Not on a plane, but in the F lounge at Sydney. Three screaming children and parents with no control.

"Oh darling I'm not sure you should be doing that!" as child climbs over dividers and furniture.

Sheesh pity nobody said those same words to the parents when they first entertained thoughts of breeding! :evil:

I'm a huge fan of the Dog Whisperer on the Biography Channel & when he says "dogs need rules, boundaries & limitations" IMHO children are no different.

Another phrase he uses is "excercise, discipline then affection" in that order - if it's good enough for canines it's good enough for kids.

 

[QF WP]

Agreed :!:

Not happening in my case. (The F or J RTW for us may happen but the J for the kids won't :!

.... and I hope they are reading this.

I don't think they're reading this tonight, but I'm sure someone will point them at your post


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[QF WP]

I'm just hoping Lindsay Wilson will adopt me. I'll happily sit in J whilst my newly adopted parents are in F, and I promise to behave on the flight too!

Me too, me too, pick me pick me

Wow, picked me up an instant family. Sorry guys, already got my family and not looking for any more.

Although, we might need some bag boys during our trip.


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[QF WP]

I'm a huge fan of the Dog Whisperer on the Biography Channel & when he says "dogs need rules, boundaries & limitations" IMHO children are no different.

Another phrase he uses is "excercise, discipline then affection" in that order - if it's good enough for canines it's good enough for kids.

I agree, Cesar is fantastic with his knowledge of dogs. Being the owner of two dogs, who used to be spoiled, I absolutely am convinced about the 2nd phrase.


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[anat0l]

Although, we might need some bag boys during our trip.

Happy to work for minimum and travel in Economy

 

[dfcatch]

Happy to work for minimum and travel in Economy

Damn anat0l!!

Don't underprice us!!

(80K at least if in whY)