SC run ideas to take advantage of Doublc SC promo

[MarkD]

VA could you please clarify? Got the Vmail, but have not been "Selected by VA" to get double credits. Im not going to book my flights on VA by default, if I am not going to get their offer. Once again, conditions as clear as mud Why cant it just be a straight up email, and then only those that get the email know about it, its like our noses are getting rubbed in it again :evil: "Hey look at what we are doing, but not for you, because you didn't get invited"

Agree with the posts above that we should be included as we got the email, but conditions say otherwise, as we have not specifically been offered the double SC. Who gives a cough, I just booked with QF anyway, as their fares are slightly cheaper where I need to go, when I need to go, shame really, because I probably would have paid the slight excess to fly vA if I was to be awarded the double points, Oh well, such is life.

 

[pmdg7444]

reading your posts now makes me concerned. Can anyone confirm if members who receive the following email are eligible:

Dear [name]

Virgin Australia is committed to helping travellers affected by the recent suspension of Qantas international and domestic services. To assist in this effort we have: ........

We will continue to monitor the situation closely and add further services around Australia as necessary. In view of the value we place on your business, we are offering you double Status Credits* on all flights booked with the Virgin Australia group of airlines; Virgin Australia, V Australia, Pacific Blue and Polynesian Blue and with our airline partners; Etihad Airways, Air New Zealand, Delta Air Lines, Virgin America, Virgin Atlantic and Malaysia Airlines. Simply book before 13 Nov 2011 for travel until 31 Jan 2012. For the latest information on Virgin Australia services, please visit the Virgin Australia website virginaustralia.com.

Yours sincerely,

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Did anyone not get it in a generic Vmail tonight?

Only generic email I've got tonight is a QF PR BS one!

 

[Deleted member 29185]

reading your posts now makes me concerned. Can anyone confirm if members who receive the following email are eligible:

Dear [name]

Virgin Australia is committed to helping travellers affected by the recent suspension of Qantas international and domestic services. To assist in this effort we have: ........

We will continue to monitor the situation closely and add further services around Australia as necessary. In view of the value we place on your business, we are offering you double Status Credits* on all flights booked with the Virgin Australia group of airlines; Virgin Australia, V Australia, Pacific Blue and Polynesian Blue and with our airline partners; Etihad Airways, Air New Zealand, Delta Air Lines, Virgin America, Virgin Atlantic and Malaysia Airlines. Simply book before 13 Nov 2011 for travel until 31 Jan 2012. For the latest information on Virgin Australia services, please visit the Virgin Australia website virginaustralia.com.

Yours sincerely,

If that's the generic email 777 spoke of, then yes, I received that Monday and take that as being an invitation to earn double SCs!

 

[drewbles]

drewbles,

Don't feel lonely :!:

I completely understand. :evil:

Will you buy me a drink to keep me warm at night?

 

[pmdg7444]

I'm thinking of maybe a quick trip across the tasman...

The offer extends to all partners and I notice airNZ has some decent offers when on special ($200 return tasman) and they also don't fall under the final destination rule like DJ flights do.

EDIT:
Can anyone tell me the fare class for Works Deluxe on the TT flights, are they credited as PE or Business? Also how do they market the business seats? (It's still a gem $300 for 60*2 SC's)

Note, AKL - SYD/BRIS is zone 2, but mel is zone 3.

Loobloke, I'm interested in finding out where you can get these prices....

 

[loobloke]

Loobloke, I'm interested in finding out where you can get these prices....

Air NZ site, eg: MEL/CHC, Works Delux is $329+275 return

But I'm not quite sure how these credit ...

 

[Fruitcake]

Can anyone tell me the fare class for Works Deluxe on the TT flights, are they credited as PE or Business? Also how do they market the business seats? (It's still a gem $300 for 60*2 SC's)

Note, AKL - SYD/BRIS is zone 2, but mel is zone 3.

From the NZ Agent page:
"Booking classes which relate to this product are the same as The Works: L, T, W, V, Q, H, M, B, Y."

Then on the Velocity page, there are no NZ trans tasman booking classes that earn at the PE rate. C, D, J, Z earn at the business/first rate. So I think the best that can be done on the Works is full fare economy SCs, in Y and B class.

I made an NZ Works booking (not deluxe) for January a couple of months back, it's gone into L and S classes. I suspect clicking the 'give me flexibility' option would have turned those into Y or B class, which would earn at full economy rate, but the premium for that was fairly chunky.

I've found on the NZ site that with long haul it will tell you booking classes during a dummy booking, but for trans tasman it will only tell you the class after payment.

EDIT: Post #30 by mr_osborne corrects my assertion about the flexi option.

 

[mr_osborne]

Just some info for people re Air NZ, I Had to deal with this issue earlier, the thread can be found at :http://www.australianfrequentflyer....d-airpoints/air-nz-booking-classes-32836.html.

Basically, to sum it up, there is no correlation between works/works deluxe and booking class. My understanding of the system, is they have a base fare, seat. The price level that is set at relates to the booking class (lower price, lower class). I have tried to summarise the basic idea in the table below:

	Seat	Seat + Bag	Works	Works Deluxe
Basic	X	X+20	X+50	X+150
Flexible	Y	Y+20	Y+50	Y+150

Note: when you select a fare, there is a check box option to make it a flexi fare, also as I'm from NZ, I think/work in NZ dollars, it may be slightly different in Australia, but the same concept should apply

So what I'm trying to show, is the Basic fare/Fare class is the same for each fare, therefore the points earn is the same. Because of this, I think that it will often be better to book cheaper fares through the Velocity website as the cheapest fares booked through Air NZ earn 0.25 points per mile, whereas DJ would class these as saver fares, and they would earn at 0.5.

I'm thinking of maybe a quick trip across the tasman...

The offer extends to all partners and I notice airNZ has some decent offers when on special ($200 return tasman) and they also don't fall under the final destination rule like DJ flights do.

EDIT:
Can anyone tell me the fare class for Works Deluxe on the TT flights, are they credited as PE or Business? Also how do they market the business seats? (It's still a gem $300 for 60*2 SC's)

Note, AKL - SYD/BRIS is zone 2, but mel is zone 3.

Works deluxe will most likely be a cheap discount economy fare at that price.

You cannot purchase PE on Trans Tasman flights, but you can purchase Business(on the daily flight on the 773 continuing on from USA). The standard fare for business from Auckland is about $1200NZD to melbourne, but have seen it on sale at $600NZD (One way).

I hope this helps

 

[mr_osborne]

From the NZ Agent page:
"Booking classes which relate to this product are the same as The Works: L, T, W, V, Q, H, M, B, Y."

Then on the Velocity page, there are no NZ trans tasman booking classes that earn at the PE rate. C, D, J, Z earn at the business/first rate. So I think the best that can be done on the Works is full fare economy SCs, in Y and B class.

I made an NZ Works booking (not deluxe) for January a couple of months back, it's gone into L and S classes. I suspect clicking the 'give me flexibility' option would have turned those into Y or B class, which would earn at full economy rate, but the premium for that was fairly chunky.

I've found on the NZ site that with long haul it will tell you booking classes during a dummy booking, but for trans tasman it will only tell you the class after payment.

I'd previously done this table, just to give you an idea,

Discount Economy (L, G, S, K, P, F)	0.25 Velocity Points​
Discount Economy (V, W, T)	0.5 Velocity Points​
Discount Economy (Q, H, M)	0.75 Velocity Points ​
Economy (Y, B)	1 Velocity Point ​
Business Class (C, D, J, Z)	2 Velocity Points ​

Based on Air NZ info:
K, X, G, L, T, W, V = Smart saver
Q, H, M, B, Y, D, C = Flexi

As you can see, you could book a flexi , it could be in Q,H or M class, and virgin would only give you Discount economy SC (Status Earn Fare Class| Velocity Frequent Flyer)

 

[Taezar]

I'd previously done this table, just to give you an idea,

Discount Economy (L, G, S, K, P, F)	0.25 Velocity Points​
Discount Economy (V, W, T)	0.5 Velocity Points​
Discount Economy (Q, H, M)	0.75 Velocity Points ​
Economy (Y, B)	1 Velocity Point ​
Business Class (C, D, J, Z)	2 Velocity Points ​

Based on Air NZ info:
K, X, G, L, T, W, V = Smart saver
Q, H, M, B, Y, D, C = Flexi

As you can see, you could book a flexi , it could be in Q,H or M class, and virgin would only give you Discount economy SC (Status Earn Fare Class| Velocity Frequent Flyer)

This is awesome!
Thanks heaps!

 

[Casual Class]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but can someone clarify what exactly the final destination rule is? Thanks

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but can someone clarify what exactly the final destination rule is? Thanks

Unlike most airlines that award status credits per sector, Virgin award per a mile based "final destination" route (which may or may not include multiple sectors). Eg, on QF, a SYD-CBR-MEL single booking multi-sector trip would earn the minimum status credits for each of the two sectors. DJ would earn only 1 "flight" equalalent to SYD-MEL direct (or 10 SCs). To earn the two sector SCs, you'd have to book two flights SYD-CBR and then CBR-MEL which would then earn 2 x 10 SCs but the fares are dearer than the multi-sector single booking.

Hope that helps.

 

[mr_osborne]

Unlike most airlines that award status credits per sector, Virgin award per a mile based "final destination" route (which may or may not include multiple sectors). Eg, on QF, a SYD-CBR-MEL single booking multi-sector trip would earn the minimum status credits for each of the two sectors. DJ would earn only 1 "flight" equalalent to SYD-MEL direct (or 10 SCs). To earn the two sector SCs, you'd have to book two flights SYD-CBR and then CBR-MEL which would then earn 2 x 10 SCs but the fares are dearer than the multi-sector single booking.

Hope that helps.

I've heard that if the flight numbers change, then they post seperately... is that correct? or was I mistaken? Specifically for me, when flying Akl-Mel-Lst, if booked as one flight, would it only post as 1 zone 3 flight? Thanks

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I've heard that if the flight numbers change, then they post seperately... is that correct? or was I mistaken? Specifically for me, when flying Akl-Mel-Lst, if booked as one flight, would it only post as 1 zone 3 flight? Thanks

Domestically, a change in flight number (which is all of them I believe) in a multi-sector booking makes no difference, one flight awarded according to direct flight miles. As yours includes an international sector, I couldn't say for certain. I'll leave that for some of the more talented FFers to answer.

 

[lovestotravel]

Some of the gold coast premium fares are very attractive with the current double SC offer. OOL-MEL $385 in PE is pretty good for 120 SC with the promo!

Are you sure that earns 120SC ?

It's classed as "Premium Economy" so wouldn't it earn 90 ?

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Are you sure that earns 120SC ?

It's classed as "Premium Economy" so wouldn't it earn 90 ?

PE domestically awards as J......there is a footnote on the DJ site and I can indeed confirm it's the case!

 

[oz_mark]

Are you sure that earns 120SC ?

It's classed as "Premium Economy" so wouldn't it earn 90 ?

Not on Virgin Australia:

^^When flying with Virgin Australia, a Saver Fare = Discount Economy, a Flexi Fare = Full Fare Economy and a Premium Fare = Business.

 

[lovestotravel]

Thanks boys, looks like a MEL-OOL-MEL trip!

Quite upset I just purchased lounge membership a few weeks ago...as I thought I'd be stuck at Silver...

I did search but couldn't' find it... So when I become GOLD will VA credit me back any of the $$ spent for the lounge membership ?

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Thanks boys, looks like a MEL-OOL-MEL trip!

Quite upset I just purchased lounge membership a few weeks ago...as I thought I'd be stuck at Silver...

I did search but couldn't' find it... So when I become GOLD will VA credit me back any of the $$ spent for the lounge membership ?

Yes, most definitely pro rata.....and promptly too! (I can confirm that as well )