Qantas Points and Status Credits - Let's make it simpler again!

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North American AA earning First Class

[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD]Distance[/TD]
[TD]Old[/TD]
[TD]New[/TD]
[TD]Change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1-600[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]-20 (-33%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]601-750[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]-50 (-56%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]751-1200[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]no change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1201-1500[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-25%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1500-2400[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]no change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2401-2500
[/TD]
[TD]150[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-20%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Non North American *O earning First Class

[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD]Distance[/TD]
[TD]Old[/TD]
[TD]New[/TD]
[TD]Change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0-250[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-50%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]251-500[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]-10 (-18%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]501-600[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]60
[/TD]
[TD]no change
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]601-750[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-33%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]751-1200[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]no change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1201-1500[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-25%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1500-2400[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]no change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2401-2500[/TD]
[TD]150[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-20%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
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Re: Non North American *O earning First Class

That F chart will come in handy for me.

I'm looking at some flights for next year (mostly < 750 miles). Unfortunately, I don't see any positives with the new mileage brackets. :(
 
Re: North American AA earning First Class

serfty said:
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD]Distance[/TD]
[TD]Old[/TD]
[TD]New[/TD]
[TD]Change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1-600[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]-20 (-33%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]601-750[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]-50 (-56%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]751-1200[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]no change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1201-1500[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]90[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-25%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1500-2400[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]no change[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2401-2500[/TD]
[TD]150[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]-30 (-20%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Looks like I'll be transiting ORD more then in the past.
 
moa999 said:
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Serfty. Do your tables need a title. Assume top one is US only?
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they have desciptive titles ... Of course I now see the apps don't show them. :rolleyes:

Yes the first one is North American and the second other ... Both are for first class.
 
I have updated my QF Domestic SC earn table - now includes fare classes, type and FF category. I have also removed the FF categories that don't exist on DOM routes to simplify further (i.e for which there is no corresponding fare class).

QF Dom SC 1 July 2014.jpg

Edit: New image to fix the footnotes and add disclaimer. :)
 
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What's was the minimum points guarantee for an AA flight in First before things became simply and fairer?

I just had a QF FF agent tell me it 1317 miles.
 
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The division between short, medium and long is not strickly mileage based. MEL CNS is more than 1501 miles, but is classified medium, even though MEL BNE is medium and is little more than half the distance. Under the old SC bands, it (MEL CNS) fell in the 1201 to 2400 20/40/80 SC band. Qantas appear to want to extend the domestic medium band to suit themselves. Perhaps it might be pushing it too far to make MEL DRW or MEL PER in the medium band, but you never know. Maybe the new 5 SC for discount economy CNS SYD (or even MEL SYD given a little band milage inflation to 500 miles) could not be too far away.
 
waynemerry said:
The division between short, medium and long is not strickly mileage based. MEL CNS is more than 1501 miles, but is classified medium, even though MEL BNE is medium and is little more than half the distance. Under the old SC bands, it (MEL CNS) fell in the 1201 to 2400 20/40/80 SC band. Qantas appear to want to extend the domestic medium band to suit themselves. Perhaps it might be pushing it too far to make MEL DRW or MEL PER in the medium band, but you never know. Maybe the new 5 SC for discount economy CNS SYD (or even MEL SYD given a little band milage inflation to 500 miles) could not be too far away.
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Where did you get MEL-CNS = 1501m??, MileageMonkey shows 1438m, GCMAP 1432m

If not mileage based, has QF published a list of what routes in what bands?
 
serfty said:
ISTR It being 500 for any eligible AA flight.

That certainly is the case currently ...

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Checking back, a Discount economy for 337 mile SFO-LAX on AA credited as 169 base with 169 status bonus with 500 point minimum guarantee being applied (2 x 169 = 338).

A first Class on the same route credited in total as 843 (337 base, 169 cabin bonus and 337 status bonus) being over the 500 point minimum.
 
moa999 said:
Where did you get MEL-CNS = 1501m??, MileageMonkey shows 1438m, GCMAP 1432m

If not mileage based, has QF published a list of what routes in what bands?
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Actually my bad. My memory was 1601, but it was faulty. Qantas considers it 1437 - so as well as SYD, MEL was also caught in the 1200 to 1500 move.
 
Starter Plus on GK for KIX-NRT came out as shown below...

[TABLE="class: basic, width: 760"]
[TR="class: h3"]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Date[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Description[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Qantas
points[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Cabin
bonus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Status
bonus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Total
points[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Status
credits[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: underline1"]
[TD]01 SEP 14[/TD]
[TD]HILTON NARITA AIRPRT 22AUG14[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: figures"]208[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: underline1 alt"]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]24 AUG 14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]GK 201 ECONOMY 23AUG14 TOKYO/OSAKA[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]450[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]450[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]900[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]10
icon_wave.gif
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Appears correct.
Starter Plus on Jetstar earns in the "Economy category" not Discount Economy.
And it is in the Short Intl Flight intra-Japan classifcation.

Not a bad earn for a 303mile flight
 
yohy?! said:
Starter Plus on GK for KIX-NRT came out as shown below...

[TABLE="class: basic, width: 760"]
[TR="class: h3"]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Date[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Description[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Qantas
points[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Cabin
bonus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Status
bonus[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Total
points[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F4F4F4"]Status
credits[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: underline1"]
[TD]01 SEP 14[/TD]
[TD]HILTON NARITA AIRPRT 22AUG14[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: figures"]208[/TD]
[TD="class: noFigures"]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: underline1 alt"]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]24 AUG 14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]GK 201 ECONOMY 23AUG14 TOKYO/OSAKA[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]450[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]-[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]450[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]900[/TD]
[TD="class: figures, bgcolor: #F9F9F9"]10
icon_wave.gif
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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hmm... GK counts as a ~? I thought that was only QF, JQ and 3K.
 
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