Yes I am a bargain hunter as well - although I suspect not as much as you - getting too old to waste the timeI've done all of the above except pay full fare. I avoid paying RRP for anything, houses, cars, furniture... right down to movie tickets.
There is no way that the Dreamliner J is mini first - spin from their marketing departmentSo, how do Qantas view it. From their Business blurb:
"Qantas’ Dreamliner carries 236 passengers across three cabins. It features the latest version of the airline’s Business Suite, nicknamed “mini First Class” by some frequent flyers, "
So, how do you spin it. First Class is Premium Business Class, or Business is Mini First Class. I think Qantas has positioned it that way....
Love Champagne class especially if it had a modern twist to it.I prefer the 2-3A/K in I ever get the change again in QF F.
None of the QF F are privacy plus, thats just not the style of the cabin.
I actually prefer the more open plan Skybed J cabin than the new J suite A330/B787 which feels a bit cooped up.
In any case each traveller is entitled to examine the value of each ticket purchase and there are choices if not up to their expectation. In the end it's the customer's expectations that the airline has to balance against financial realities.
I like my QFF points, but I'm growing to love my KF miles and Amex points moreYes I am a bargain hunter as well - although I suspect not as much as you - getting too old to waste the time
I guess the point I was making was the more the F cabin is filled with “discount” tickets, whether that is cash discounts or award or upgrades, the more the luxury is going to be watered down.
Other airlines have started going down the path of smaller F cabins but more luxury. Qantas is keeping full sized F cabins, but delivering J+ standard. You get the feeling that Qantas F is more there to provide incentives and awards to its FF base than any commitment to deliver a true F product.
'A genuine designer brand'. . Has that got anything in common with 'cutlery you eat in air meals with'?Sorry, but when you trash a genuine designer brand that an airline has chosen to use, it seems to me that it becomes a matter of personal taste.
My first and only experience in CX F was similar. The CS told us on boarding she wanted to treat us like royalty for the whole flight and was such a delightful lady that I didn’t have the heart to tell her I just wanted to sit back, watch a movie and enjoy a few JW Blues.It’s funny peoples personal preferences. I flew CX’s First and the staff were circulating in high rotation offering everything from constant water top ups to the pilots first born! It was incredibly distracting! I’d much prefer after service they retire and be on call, maybe with one lap to clear every 30 mins but that’s my personal preference
Funny thing. I’ve never flown international in Qantas J other than to Bali. Surely that doesn’t count? I tried getting J award from Honololu in June - Nada - and from Singapore in January next year and only option was F! Award of course for me not revenue! Other than taxes....I'm probably not paying enough attention (for good reason!), but isn't the cutlery in F the same as J?
Well that is explainable given plumbing concerns. I’ve had worse. India. Sri Lanka. Indonesia. Shopping centers here.I suppose it's only a matter of time before some start complaining about the dunny paper....
I could not agree more and although I like F in CX, SQ and EK at times I find them to be so attentive it becomes annoying. In my experience JL has got the balance right.It’s funny peoples personal preferences. I flew CX’s First and the staff were circulating in high rotation offering everything from constant water top ups to the pilots first born! It was incredibly distracting! I’d much prefer after service they retire and be on call, maybe with one lap to clear every 30 mins but that’s my personal preference