Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

I dont think it is a bucket thing, I think they just block everyone but themselves from accessing CX inventory. I think it is a bit like QR blocking QF, I don't think WR has a special bucket just for QF redemptions it must be a block somewhere else. K might be wrong.

Is the alert for MNL-HKG on QF redemptions in particular? If so then I have no idea.
Yes. The alert was set for HKG-MNL via QFF for 3 pax in J.

CX fly the route 4x daily.

When the alert triggered no options showed on QF for 3 pax.

Two flights showed availability for 2 pax.

And the flight that triggered the alert didn’t even show for 1 pax.

When I looked at the EF fare buckets, the flight that triggered the alert had more seats in lower buckets than the others. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I've just completed ticketing for a Oneworld Award. My tip for anyone looking to make their seat selections in advance is to try Sri Lankan Airlines. I tried most of the other carriers (including Cathay Pacific, Iberia, BA, Finnair, and of course Qantas) and they all either wouldn't allow seat selection for other carriers, or the system was broken (RJ showed all seats available and would not save selections).

The Sri Lankan site loaded easily and would happily take bookings for any carrier.

PS. I didn't even have any bookings with Sri Lankan so that is irrelevant.
 
If anyone is making changes to a OWA that was issued before the points devaluation I'd be interested to know if the change fee is still just 5000 points or if you have to pay the 'fare difference' as well to the new devalued price
 
If anyone is making changes to a OWA that was issued before the points devaluation I'd be interested to know if the change fee is still just 5000 points or if you have to pay the 'fare difference' as well to the new devalued price
The change fee is 5000 points
 
Hi, does anyone booked Emirates flight for OWA? I believe EK flights are now on OWA program.
I know the tax is expensive for Emirates, however total points needed should be the same??

Also, I heard that if you booked OWA prior to 5 Aug (with 318000 points), you need to pay the difference for the new OWA redemption (365800 points) when changing your itinerary on top of the change fee of 5000 points.
Is this true?
 
I've just completed ticketing for a Oneworld Award. My tip for anyone looking to make their seat selections in advance is to try Sri Lankan Airlines. I tried most of the other carriers (including Cathay Pacific, Iberia, BA, Finnair, and of course Qantas) and they all either wouldn't allow seat selection for other carriers, or the system was broken (RJ showed all seats available and would not save selections).

The Sri Lankan site loaded easily and would happily take bookings for any carrier.

PS. I didn't even have any bookings with Sri Lankan so that is irrelevant.
I tried it with my one world booking which does not have any Sri Lankan flights. After listing the flights, it does say that "Your flights are not eligible for online modification". However under the Value Added Services Section, when selecting British Airways flight, it says "Sorry, seatmap is not available". when selecting Japan Airlines flight, it loads the seatmap and after selecting the seat, and confirming, it says "Sorry, your seat selection couldn't be saved". Same result with China Airlines flight. Tried RJ but it says "Booking does not include any RJ flight".
 
I tried it with my one world booking which does not have any Sri Lankan flights. After listing the flights, it does say that "Your flights are not eligible for online modification". However under the Value Added Services Section, when selecting British Airways flight, it says "Sorry, seatmap is not available". when selecting Japan Airlines flight, it loads the seatmap and after selecting the seat, and confirming, it says "Sorry, your seat selection couldn't be saved". Same result with China Airlines flight. Tried RJ but it says "Booking does not include any RJ flight".
Sorry to hear you had that experience, do you have Oneworld status? Its the only thing I can think of that might explain the difference, so would be a helpful disclaimer to others. I hope you get one of the other carriers to work
 
Sorry to hear you had that experience, do you have Oneworld status? Its the only thing I can think of that might explain the difference, so would be a helpful disclaimer to others. I hope you get one of the other carriers to work
Not sure what is OneWorld status. I am only Qantas Bronze.
 
Hmmm… I just used Sri Lankan’s MB function for an upcoming AY award issued through QFFF. It worked! Gave me the AY seat maps and ability to change seats. I have OWR status, and no flights on UL.

Just adding this as a data point.
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Not sure what is OneWorld status. I am only Qantas Bronze.
OW status would mean anything above base level… so qantas silver (oneworld ruby), qantas gold (oneworld sapphire) or qantas platinum (oneworld emerald)… or the equivalent tiers on any other oneworld airline .
 
Not sure what is OneWorld status. I am only Qantas Bronze.
OneWorld is the airline alliance that Qantas is a member of. Any status with Qantas also means you have that status with OneWorld. I only ask because some airlines restrict seating choices to those that have status - it sounds like this may be the problem based on @MEL_Traveller 's experience also
 
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My OneWorld Classic Flight Reward booking experience.

This may be a little long for some readers, so feel free to bypass if not interested.

Understandably, there's quite a bit of negativity and reports of undesired outcomes in these pages. After all, it's only human nature to register a complaint and vent about things that may not go 100% as we would hope or expect.

But often, advice provided here helps resolve and smooth out those issues. (This is one of the few examples of the internet/social media actually working as we all hoped and thought it would back in the day!)

In early July, heeding the advice provided on this forum, I booked my Rewards trip using the Qantas online Multi-City tool. I did not include all my destinations, but booked immediately due to a couple of the legs being high demand and points seats likely to evaporate quickly. My plan was to constantly monitor (using Seats.aero and the Qantas tool), and when my preferred/desired seats were all available I would gird my loins and brave the vagaries of the dreaded call centre, to perform the changes.

My initial itinerary was:
MEL - DPS
DPS - HKG
HKG - HEL
HEL - HND
HND - MNL
MNL - MEL
... including 5 x stopovers, and 2 x surface sectors.
318,000 points capped, all J class, with fees surprisingly only $730.

But the MEL-DPS first leg was a month before the remainder (as a placeholder - I feel a day in Bali would be a day too much, let alone a month), and I doubt there will ever be Classic Reward seats available for that leg in December.

So my idea was to remove the first leg, and make my way there with a QF or Virgin economy seat on the day of my DPS-HKG.

And then, after monitoring for six weeks, I had other changes to add:
HEL-OSL
OSL-VNO
HEL-KIX (replacing HEL-HND)
HND-HKG, HKG-MNL (these two replacing HND-MNL a 5:00am arrival and 36 hours in MNL)

Thus, three deletions, including the start port, and five additions. And remaining as 5 x stopovers and 2 x surface.

With all of the flight details on my spreadsheet (colour coded, of course), with having just checked the Multi-City tool and Seats.aero for current availability, and preparing my initial comments (again, as advice offered in these pages), this Sunday afternoon I called the Qantas call centre to make the changes.

There was about a 30-40 minute hold period, and then I was connected to the Manila centre. (I think, given the accent of the CSO.)

After providing my existing booking details, I clearly explained that I wanted to remove three legs, and add five. I said that the itinerary still met the conditions, and that the seats were currently (as of 30 minutes earlier) available.

The CSO made one mistake at first, telling me that I had to return to my departure point. But I reminded her this was a OneWorld Classic Flight Rewards, and not a RTW. She went silent for a minute or so. I was worried.

But then she returned, apologised, and we entered all the changes in her system.

Everything was accepted *except* the smallest, least-points leg (HEL-OSL). Weird. All the days before my desired date, and all the days afterwards all had availability (and there are many flights each day). The Multi-tool had many flights available in Y and J (and Seats.areo of course had them available too). But her official Qantas tool said no.

I have monitored that small leg for six weeks, and flights have always been available. I can understand if there were only one or two seats in total, but six or eight flights with AY, and all the days before and after... what is it about 17 December? LOL.

Anyway, as *everything* else was OK, what a relief, I went ahead and removed that leg and accepted the changes (for 5000 points).

Within 10 minutes, after Kim had read back the whole itinerary, the changes were reflected in the online booking info, and within half an hour I received the confirmation of the booking by email. The extra fee cost, for all the changes, was only $47. Again, a pleasant surprise.

All done, almost no pain.

I will keep an alert for the 'missing' leg at Seats.aero, although both it, and the Qantas tool, both say (as of this moment) that there *are* Rewards seats available. I guess the only option, if they stay showing as available, is that I will have to call the centre again. Oh well.

But it's not a huge deal anyway, as I was always going to have to fly independently of Rewards, from OSL to BGO. So I can just make it HEL to BGO instead.

So, overall, despite my fears, the experience was really positive. The consultant was very professional, rather 'clinical' in fact (perhaps some cultural nuance being missed by a certainly fluent, but non-native English speaker). And, after the initial assumption I was on a RTW ticket, she certainly seemed to understand all the T's & C's of our Classic Rewards deal. I was happy to provide positive feedback at the post-call survey.

I do not know if this short story will be of any benefit to anyone. In this forum we all know how complex and frustrating this whole process can be, and our friends, work colleagues, family, etc, probably don't understand or appreciate this. So at least I might have a slightly receptive audience.
 
And, after the initial assumption I was on a RTW ticket, she certainly seemed to understand all the T's & C's of our Classic Rewards deal.
Agents don’t need to know or understand the Ts and Cs of the OWA… it’s automatically validated and capped by the system. The agent doesn’t validate it themselves - and if they approve - send it for ticketing.

For example, even if the agent was mistaken in thinking you had to return to your point of origin, you just ask them to add the flights you want, and get it priced. Sometimes the agents are surprised it caps at 318k :)
 

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