Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

Anyone heard of this before? AY991 showing available online, but multiple agents saying they can't add it to my OWA as it's only available for new bookings. Screen Shot 2023-01-31 at 10.29.33 am.png
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Yes, that's been said to me a few times. I don't know if it is accurate or not though. One time an alternate route was found on the same day and the others seats were available to be added to an existing itinerary a few days later. So I don't know if the justification is correct as I managed to get the desired outcome eventually.
In these instances I was looking in the hours after the flights became visible in the booking engine (ie nearly 12 months out).
 
Yes, that's been said to me a few times. I don't know if it is accurate or not though. One time an alternate route was found on the same day and the others seats were available to be added to an existing itinerary few days later. So I don't know if the justification is correct as I managed to get the desired outcome eventually.
In these instances I was looking in the hours after the flights became visible in the booking engine (ie nearly 12 months out).
Only 8 months out in my case. I've kicked off sending multiple emails to the executive team again - this simply isn't good enough. Maybe I'm too naive for thinking anything would change.
 
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Anyone heard of this before? AY991 showing available online, but multiple agents saying they can't add it to my OWA as it's only available for new bookings. View attachment 315433
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Yes. With both AY and JL - today and in the past.

In some cases it’s phantom availability.

But sometimes with JL it’s been system related.

In one instance with JL a HBA agent couldn’t see availability that was showing online and via EF (when it covered JL). The agent “went in via a different screen” and was able to add the flights in that way.

HUACA.
 
Yes. With both AY and JL - today and in the past.

In some cases it’s phantom availability.

But sometimes with JL it’s been system related.

In one instance with JL a HBA agent couldn’t see availability that was showing online and via EF (when it covered JL). The agent “went in via a different screen” and was able to add the flights in that way.

HUACA.
Yep, plenty.
AY, JL, IB
I had a call from a NZ agent this evening, and he said it's something to do with AY "revenue control". The seats are definitely available (more than 5), but only for new bookings. Seems odd that if I were happy to cancel and re-book, I could secure the seat...
 
I had a call from a NZ agent this evening, and he said it's something to do with AY "revenue control". The seats are definitely available (more than 5), but only for new bookings. Seems odd that if I were happy to cancel and re-book, I could secure the seat...
Yes, odd. And frustrating after you think you've located a suitable/great flight to add.....to be stymied by computer says no
 
JL changed my HEL-HND flight (updated to reflect avoiding Russian airspace it seems) and I received an email to accept the change in MMB, which I accepted. CMT shows the new flight with e-ticket number (unchanged from the previous one) but Qantas has not issued a new e-ticket. Is the consensus that this is OK? Or do I need Qantas to issue a new e-ticket.
 
JL changed my HEL-HND flight (updated to reflect avoiding Russian airspace it seems) and I received an email to accept the change in MMB, which I accepted. CMT shows the new flight with e-ticket number (unchanged from the previous one) but Qantas has not issued a new e-ticket. Is the consensus that this is OK? Or do I need Qantas to issue a new e-ticket.
How much of a change was there to the departure time? If under an hour general understanding is it doesn't necessarily need to be reticketed. That being said I've had changed of 20mins and had it reticketed.

I currently have a similar situation here with an AY flight.
Departure time changed by 1h 10min (Tokyo to Helsinki).
Accepted change.
New time reflects on RJ, AY and CMT. New time reflects on Qantas website but not the e-ticket receipt from Qantas.
Original E-ticket number is present on all websites and CMT, but is the original E-ticket number prior to the change.
Not sure if this is an issue either...
 
Original departure was 17:25 and now it's 16:40. Flight time is now 5 hours longer too. Qantas told you it's not required when you called?
 
JL changed my HEL-HND flight (updated to reflect avoiding Russian airspace it seems) and I received an email to accept the change in MMB, which I accepted. CMT shows the new flight with e-ticket number (unchanged from the previous one) but Qantas has not issued a new e-ticket. Is the consensus that this is OK? Or do I need Qantas to issue a new e-ticket.
Change of arrival time usually requires ticket revalidation not reissue. Had a similar experience about a month ago with a JAL flight from FRA-NRT. No new ticket and everything is still in place. What is the reservation status of the booking on the JAL website? If a new ticket is pending, it probably won't say ticketed.
 

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JL changed my HEL-HND flight (updated to reflect avoiding Russian airspace it seems) and I received an email to accept the change in MMB, which I accepted. CMT shows the new flight with e-ticket number (unchanged from the previous one) but Qantas has not issued a new e-ticket. Is the consensus that this is OK? Or do I need Qantas to issue a new e-ticket.
Same thing happened to me with a LHR-HND flight. Fairly satisfied everything is okay given the ticket numbers are still in place everywhere I've checked (CMT, RJ, etc).

Has reduced my connection time to a domestic JAL flight to 1h55m though. Not ideal, but still meets MCT and there's plenty of other flights I can be put on if I miss the connection.
 
Hi all, I was advised that our OWA JAL flight HEL-HND (in Aug 23) has been rescheduled to a day later which means the connection HND-SIN will be missed. I have accepted the change we can work around this but do I just wait now to see if they reschedule the connecting flight? Or do I need to contact Qantas to arrange this myself? Thanks for your help, I will look at other options in the meantime.
 
Hi all, I was advised that our OWA JAL flight HEL-HND (in Aug 23) has been rescheduled to a day later which means the connection HND-SIN will be missed. I have accepted the change we can work around this but do I just wait now to see if they reschedule the connecting flight? Or do I need to contact Qantas to arrange this myself? Thanks for your help, I will look at other options in the meantime.
QF are supposed to find an alternative for you but in practice nowadays you will find they won't do a thing to help. You will almost certainly have to do the legwork yourself. QR changed a flight time in Sept last year on us which meant we would miss our connection from KUL to MEL but there was virtually no reward availability. It was a frustrating experience and the call centre were definitely part of the problem rather than the solution.
 
do I just wait now to see if they reschedule the connecting flight?
Qatar discontinued a service and put us on a later flight, but unfortunately missing our connection. No action was taken to reschedule the connecting flight by Qatar or Qantas. In the end, we had to book economy awards for that segment and pay seat reservation fees (which we eventually forfeited). As things have changed for the better since then, when finding availability on QF1.
 
Hi all, I was advised that our OWA JAL flight HEL-HND (in Aug 23) has been rescheduled to a day later which means the connection HND-SIN will be missed. I have accepted the change we can work around this but do I just wait now to see if they reschedule the connecting flight? Or do I need to contact Qantas to arrange this myself? Thanks for your help, I will look at other options in the meantime.
Definately need to contact QF even if the email says they are working on it. They will need to request that JL open a revenue seat for you, either an earlier flight to HND or later one from HND. This is likely to take many calls and probably weeks to resolve. Get the names and location of everyone you speak to, take notes and ask them to put a note on the booking. If they tell you they have put in a request call back to check a request has been put through, unfortunatly it is common for the outsourced call centres to lie to get rid of you. If you get no joy, email Markus Svensson, list all the calls you've made with names, locations, dates and times and request the flight you want.
 
Thanks everyone! I'll just have to keep an eye on flights and see if any business seats pop up
So unfortunately it looks like now I'll have to change my booking completely.

I just called Qantas - if I cancel my 318k OWA trip altogether, they've advised that a 6k cancellation fee will apply, and 95% or so of the taxes would be refunded.

I'll still try to find an alternative 318k eligible itinerary (so it would only be a 5k points change fee plus taxes) but it will be difficult.

However, if in the case that I was able to find another itinerary but only in PE instead of business, would I be refunded any points (assuming that my new trip falls under the PE cap of 249.6k points?).

Ie. I'd be refunded ~68k points minus any change fees if I was able to find an alternative OWA in PE rather than in Business?

Or, would it be better to just cancel completely, get my 318k points back minus the 6k points penalty for cancellation and just start fresh again?

Of course the option would be to not have to change, but it seems it's inevitable now / I wouldn't be able to find an equivalent Business itinerary at an alternative date.

Thankyou in advance!
 
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