Dubious Jetstar booking behaviour.

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I encountered a strange, and to me, highly dubious problem this morning. I was booking a return trip to Sydney. Unfortunately, ex Launceston, if I want a direct flight, I have to travel Jetstar. That said, I generally don't mind them. I book a max bundle, which gives me much the same as flex on Qantas.
When I booked this morning, I selected my flights, my bundle, my seats and came to the review and pay page. Total in basket at this stage was $492. When I clicked the pay button, it came up with the message that it had encountered an unknown error. After fiddling a bit, I gave up and phoned Jetstar. When I eventually spoke to someone they told me this was a common problem and it meant someone else had booked the seats I was booking. I suggested that if they were going to change the fare between when I selected and when I paid, it was going to be very hard to book. They countered with the seat is not booked until paid for but added they'd be happy to do my booking for me.
OK, I said when and where I was flying and they quoted me $598. I pointed out that I was looking at $492 in my basket and was told those seats were no longer available. While I was talking, I opened another tab and searched the flights to find the seats were still available at a lot less than $598. I then got a lecture on how booking on the internet gives access to lower prices. I was told that I could try to book online again but I could find that the seats I was looking at would not be available and I'd end up back on a phone booking at a higher price again. To calm me, I was offered a $50 voucher.
At this stage, I pointed out that what was being suggested was basically illegal. I had selected seats, based on the advertised price, I had proceeded rapidly through to checkout and was now being told that to obtain the seats I had selected, it would cost me $106 more, or $56 factoring in the offered voucher. I received the lecture again about how buying online was cheaper. I gave up!
I hung up, booked online again and ended up paying $550. Interestingly, the physical seats I had selected previously showed up as not available on both flights. This suggested to me that, although I could not complete it, my original booking was still active and creating ghosts to fill the seats. I suspect this was the reason I went from $492 to $550.
Has anyone else encountered this? Normally, these sorts of bookings have a time limit. You select the flight, it's yours for the next five minutes or so. Has this changed? It's surely not legal to allow you to select a flight and then increase the price prior to checkout? It is after all an online booking, not an online auction?
 
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Hmmm, absolutely no response to my query. This potentially means that either I've asked a silly question or have asked one that has been answered many times before.
I will take the issue up directly with Jetstar as it seems very strange to me. How can online booking work if there is not a time period allowed to complete the booking? It becomes a race to complete the booking before someone beats you to it. I'm sure Jetstar used to have a message telling you how long you had left to complete the booking.
 
That does seem ludicrous. Can't say that it's happened to me because I don't fly Jetstar - partly because I live in CBR but mostly because of these sorts of stories. Heck, even Webjet offers a time window in which to complete the booking. Perhaps one of our more internet-savvy members could shed some light on the possibilities/practicalities of being gazumped mid-purchase?
 
I do find it puzzling but they were adamant that the reason I couldn't complete the booking was due to the price I selected no longer being available.
I find it hard to believe, hence my query.
 
Does seem strange?

I think what the agent was saying to you, is plausible, but unlikely in my estimation. But I guess its something akin to booking concert tickets online, take it now.

But you are right about the time limit. Not sure about Jetstar, but Qantas is about 8 minutes until it times out. Other booking sites I have noticed have a 15 to 20 minute limit to hold the booking.
 
I tried to double check with Jetstar this afternoon. Ring the number, select #1 for English, call ended. Tried four times and gave up!
 
I've witnessed this before but not the airfare changing. Your original booking must have been the last fare available in that bucket.

A few months back I made a domestic booking and went through to payment page and cancelled. When I went back in to make same booking the seat I had selected before was greyed out. It took 30m-60m before that seat became available for selection again.

Last month I was trying to allocate seats on 3K flights for 2 separate bookings. I could not complete any of the changes and each time I would go back to try again the seats I had selected previously were not available for selection.

I gave up eventually and tried online chat but this took over an hour and then couldn't pay with gift voucher so had to pay with credit card and had to call to get this done.

I don't understand why it needs to be this difficult.
 
I've witnessed this before but not the airfare changing. Your original booking must have been the last fare available in that bucket.

A few months back I made a domestic booking and went through to payment page and cancelled. When I went back in to make same booking the seat I had selected before was greyed out. It took 30m-60m before that seat became available for selection again.

Last month I was trying to allocate seats on 3K flights for 2 separate bookings. I could not complete any of the changes and each time I would go back to try again the seats I had selected previously were not available for selection.

I gave up eventually and tried online chat but this took over an hour and then couldn't pay with gift voucher so had to pay with credit card and had to call to get this done.

I don't understand why it needs to be this difficult.
I've also had that experience. If I'm reading your comment correctly though, you cancelled and that was the cause of the ghost booking. In a way, that makes sense. The system is "holding" your flights. It can't really be done any other way. What interested me was that the agent was telling me that the flights weren't mine until I paid. We went round and round on that point but I could make no headway. I don't know if it was a language thing or she was being deliberately awkward but she would say that I had to pay to secure the seat, whilst I was trying to make the point that a certain time period has to be allowed to complete the booking. One of those chalk and cheese discussions that seem so common with call centres
Possibly Jetstar have altered their system to eliminate ghost bookings but it seems unlikely.
 
With all the sales channels that are connected these days, it doesn't surprise me that this happens from time to time. I've had it happen on Qantas....

Also, Jetstar upgraded their NewSkies reservation system over the weekend, so there may be a glitch or two around the place....
 
With all the sales channels that are connected these days, it doesn't surprise me that this happens from time to time. I've had it happen on Qantas....

Also, Jetstar upgraded their NewSkies reservation system over the weekend, so there may be a glitch or two around the place....
My thought was a glitch but the agent I spoke to was quite clear that this was a common problem. It's possible of course that they have incentives to make sales and was simply trying to close the deal. I was very uncomfortable with that aspect. I was definitely being pushed to accept a package that was over $100 more expensive than the fares I was not able to book. I was told that a lot of people are booking those flights right now and if I tried to do it online again, it could end up costing even more. She offered a $50 voucher, she suggested that I didn't take the max bundle as it cost more. Of course, I only add the max bundle because it's expensive, not because I want a flexible flight with 30 kg baggage allowance!
 
I suspect you just encountered an isolated glitch. You were after all able to successfully book the second time around even if on a more expensive fare because the cheaper one was probably still on hold. If it wasn't a sale fare I probably would have just waited a few hours for the cheaper seats to go back on sale and try again.
 
Hmmm. Had exactly the same issue tonight. Trying to book on a PC. The chat agent was able to offer me the 'same' fare but $50 more expensive. They asked me to try a different browswer so I tried my tablet. The fare increased by $200 on line, but the agent could still offer me their ($50 more) price.

Same issue as well that my seat selected during the failed attempt was now greyed out.

I declined the offer and the agent said they would cancel the booking they had created. Of course cheaper fare was now back! And could be booked on the tablet no problem.

So it seems the solution might be to try using a tablet/phone when you get the error messsage. (Just happy i saved $50... of additional cost that shouldn't have been applicable anyway!)

Just out of interest I've gone back in a couple of times and the original low fare is available, even for multiple pax. So it seems like when an agent is booking the same flight, it pushes up the lowest fare category! (Surely that can't be possible??)
 
I've had a little more experience on this in recent times and have posted a thread in the discussion section regarding it. In every case I have had recently, the agent tried to charge a considerably higher price, using the price has gone up argument. In every case I declined their offer and eventually managed to complete the booking at the original price, once I solved the technical issues with their website.
I can believe the "price has altered" argument, if the booking is quite short notice, when the prices can be expected to be volatile, but one of mine was for six months away and involved multiple pax, spread over two bookings. The first booking of three pax, made no difference to the fares offered when booking the remainder.
 
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