Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[dajop]

Seems actually like its a very virulent strain.....

In Singapore and Taiwan it certainly is.

 

[nutwood]

The key point announced to today was that transmission has been occurring in some cases in just over a day. That is a person gets infected and then infects another. Prior to this it was typically five plus days.

This has not been seen in Australia before.

I would think that this is a good thing, when it comes to controlling. Yes, it means it can expand fast, but it also means it can be detected fast and ,providing the spread can be contained, brought under control faster.
I can't help wondering though, what happens if it a vaccinated person comes in contact with it?

 

[Lynda2475]

And again, this is based on a sample size of next to nothing. It may not always be so.

NSW has had more clusters than Vic so the sample size of outbreaks is higher.

True we have had lower number of cases in each of those outbreaks, but NSW experience is not statistically insignificant in Australia.

NSW has taken the majority of arrivals, treated the highest number of overseas acquired cases, conducted 33% of all tests (has 32% of population) - that is significant.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

That needs a fact check. The transport driver in Sydney who caught covid from an arrival, infected his colleague who then started the BWS outbreak in a 2 day window.

I do not follow your logic.

The key point announced to today was that transmission has been occurring in some cases in just over a day. That is a person gets infected and then infects another. Prior to this it was typically five plus days.​

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This has not been seen in Australia before.​

Two days is a longer period than a one day period. Multiple cases have been indicated to have occurred in just over 24 hrs.

Typically: Means in most cases; usually.


If anyone knows of multiple transmissions in just over a day from person 1 to person 2 elsewhere in Australia in a cluster, please share.




Berala
14 Dec - A nurse from Western Sydney, who was working as patient transport worker drove a family of three returning from the US from the airport to hospital. They contract COVID from this family and go on to infect their colleague.

20 Dec - Infected colleague attends Berala BWS for a “very fleeting amount of time, but what we now know is that transmission occurred”.

22 Dec - Patient transport worker and their colleague are announced as positive cases.

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[Flying mermaid]

True true, however, I'll just leave this here
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You could argue we have done better, as we have to huddle in our homes for much f the year, where the virus spreads more easily, whereas they can be out and about

 

[bcworld]

NSW has had more clusters than Vic

How many?

 

[Lynda2475]

FYI the patient transport worker interreacted with the colleague who started the Berala cluster once, and it was the day after she transported the arrivals. 1 day, is a lot less than 5.

My fact check wasn't on the word typical, it was on the statement that it has never happened before.

When we have indeed seen infections from brief interactions in less than 5 days before. The other obvious example being the community cases which originated from interactions with Ruby Princess passengers on the day of their arrival.

 

[drron]

And one of the present cluster positives is in ICU and on a ventilator.
"Victorian acting premier James Merlino said that the person in ICU was “not in a good way”.

“In the last day, we have seen 12 linked new cases, bringing the total number of cases linked to the hotel quarantine breach in South Australia to 26,” he said.

“Sadly, we have one of those people in an ICU, on a ventilator, in not a very good way."

Victorian Covid-19 patient in ICU

Victorian authorities have confirmed a person who contracted coronavirus in the state has been placed into intensive care, as the state battles the highly infectious Indian variant.

www.news.com.au

 

[Carrots]

Seems actually like its a very virulent strain.....

Did somebody say pizza shop?

 

[suze2000]

give it a rest mate, ok ok NSW greatest country in Australia & the world. They do everything better.

Carrying all of returning aussie's, so over hearing same old lines.

Standing ovation.

Really struggling right now and to keep on hearing that it's somehow our fault here in Melbourne is really getting old.

 

[dajop]

Really struggling right now and to keep on hearing that it's somehow our fault here in Melbourne is really getting old.

Hope it is only one week.

I'm still not sure which is worse. We have one month of "Phase 2 restrictions" in Singapore which are less draconian than Melbourne but longer. No restrictions on exercise and being outside, can only meet in groups of 2 and have 2 visitors to the house, shops still open, can still go to movies (but tight capacity limits), but restaurants take away only, and everyone must work from home if they can. We have to wear masks inside and outside (as has been the case for the last 12 months). Basically the new restrictions forbid any activity taking place inside that would require removal of masks (for example gyms closed, but outdoor swimming pools open, and can exercise on equipment outdoors). can still get a haircut, but can't remove the mask (my barber has become quite skilled at doing masked haircuts anyway).

 

[Lynda2475]

Really struggling right now and to keep on hearing that it's somehow our fault here in Melbourne is really getting old.

The only fault mentioned was case #5 failing to get tested when they had symptoms (and to a lesser extent failing to get vaccinated even though eligible).

The rest of the discussion has been about how different states respond to these community cases (restricting exposed people vs whole of metro or state lockdowns) and how easy it is to register for vaccines.

Not sure why you are equating Case 5s behaviour or the facts of cases numbers to saying all of Melbourne is at fault. That is a gross misrepresentation of what has been said.

 

[jakeseven7]

Standing ovation.

Really struggling right now and to keep on hearing that it's somehow our fault here in Melbourne is really getting old.

The block button is your friend

 

[Must...Fly!]

Standing ovation.

Really struggling right now and to keep on hearing that it's somehow our fault here in Melbourne is really getting old.

Many here in Melbourne would share your opinion, and also the lockdown fatigue. I am also not sure how much more I can really take of this.

I think we in Victoria have had a combination of bad governing and more recently bad luck. I have been critical of contact tracing in the past, however on this occasion I think it has worked well. Now, we will never know if the "wrong Woolworths" error cost any time. But the sheer number of exposure sites and contacts, close contacts of close contacts, etc is impressive and seems to have held up so far.

I feel blame now is less to do with government (though still some) and more with people who have dragged their heels on being vaccinated despite being eligible, and the media for perpetuating the irresponsible reporting of side effects. I spoke to my Dad (GP) last night and the kind of questions he has been asked are just unreal. One person told him he can't in good conscience advise them to get AstraZeneca as he must have had Pfizer as a Doctor (wrong!).

 

[openseat]

Slightly OT. I’m in Auckland at the moment and I’ve only seen one person check in using the app at the supermarket. I haven’t seen anyone on train or bus check in using QR codes. One wonders how quickly it would spread here given the complacency. It could well be here given the longish spread time in Melbourne.
Colleagues here have also mentioned that the vaccine is glacial here as well for much the same reason in Oz - why rush when there’s no community transmission.

 

[jakeseven7]

Thanks SA, love the rest of Australia

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It has been revealed that the person suspected of giving COVID-19 to the man at the centre of Victoria's outbreak was sharing a room with a COVID-positive person who was moved to a dedicated facility for coronavirus patients, Tom's Court Hotel.

SA Health authorities said the person was a "friend" and was not deemed high-risk enough to also be transferred to the dedicated facility.

The person, who later tested positive to the virus, was instead moved to room in the Playford medi-hotel which was adjacent to the Wollert man.

The report found the virus was likely transmitted between that person and the Victorian man when they opened their doors to collect food.

South Australian authorities have now changed their policy to move close contacts of positive cases to a separate part of the medi-hotel, but not the dedicated facility.

Melbourne passengers on the Ghan removed, more detail revealed on Adelaide medi-hotel leak

Victorian passengers travelling on the Ghan are offloaded in outback South Australia because of COVID-19 concerns, as SA Health authorities reveal the person who likely spread coronavirus to a Melbourne man had shared a room with another positive case.

www.abc.net.au

 

[JessicaTam]

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[suze2000]

WTAF?! This is appalling!!!!!!!!!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Extracts from the Vic DHHS Media Report 27th May is below:

Update: Outbreaks​

The 12 new cases linked to the City of Whittlesea and Port Melbourne Workplace outbreaks are in three men aged in their 40s, four men aged in their 30s, two men aged in their 20s and three women aged in their 20s.​

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Extensive contact tracing continues for all the individuals who have tested positive to COVID-19 and new public exposures sites are being identified.​

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As of this morning, the Department had identified around 14,000 people who are either required to quarantine for 14 days, or test and isolate until negative.​

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This is likely to increase with further public exposure sites published at Case alerts - public exposure sites.​

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This list does not include small, private or closed exposure sites such as Uber rides or medical appointments.​

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The four exposure sites at nightclubs in Prahran and South Yarra remain a significant concern to public health officials, and the Department calls on the public to come forward or advise any friends who they know visited these sites.​

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As of 1pm today, 96 contacts were linked to the Stratton Finance exposure site. All positive cases detected in this outbreak so far are in staff. A total of 84 staff have been identified as contacts, all have been tested with 82 returning negative results so far.​

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Anyone who has symptoms of COVID-19 – such as fever, cough, sore throat, runny nose, chills or sweats, or change in sense of smell or taste – get a test immediately.​

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Investigation into returned overseas traveller now in Ballarat​

Yesterday, we reported that a returned traveller from overseas, who stayed in Hotel Quarantine interstate, presented to the Ballarat Health Service on Tuesday night and had returned a weak positive test result.​

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Out of an abundance of caution, precautionary measures were put in place at the health service and the individual was isolated.​

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Further testing has confirmed a negative result and all public health actions have been stood down​

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Update: Phone hotline​

This morning, the phone hotline received over 77,000 calls in a 15-minute window.​

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This significant demand unfortunately caused a number of technical issues which network providers have been successfully restoring throughout the day – and more resources will be added.​

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The Department is grateful for everyone’s enthusiasm and patience.​

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Department of Health and Human Services Victoria | Coronavirus update for Victoria – 27 May 2021

Victoria was notified of 12 new cases of coronavirus yesterday.

www.dhhs.vic.gov.au

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And on the nightclubs...I will not name which one...but two of my daughters believe that with one in particular that they are likely to have had well beyond their legal capacity. So the call to come forward is no surprise to them.​

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Some good news on the ICU patient: