Abbott in Government

drsmithy · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

amaroo said:
How do you know it hasn't happened?

Because one of the points of doing it is to let everyone know it's been done.

Q - why wouldn't you back your PM over a guy leading a country that is chronically corrupt and has displayed disgraceful human rights?

Why would I mindlessly back anyone ?

amaroo · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

drsmithy said:
Because one of the points of doing it is to let everyone know it's been done.

It's called diplomacy. In regards to the point in question - you obviously don't know!

drsmithy said:
would I mindlessly back anyone ?

Human rights, corruption, aiding and abetting people to their deaths for blood money, killing people in West Papua.........you know, the minor things in life that you add up before you decide what is right or wrong!

drsmithy · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

amaroo said:
It's called diplomacy. In regards to the point in question - you obviously don't know!

No, I don't. How is that relevant ?

Human rights, corruption, aiding and abetting people to their deaths for blood money, killing people in West Papua.........you know, the minor things in life that you add up before you decide what is right or wrong!

Again. Relevance ?

BadgerBoi · Nov 23, 2013

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tgh said:
touche…

I realised after I posted that someone would so respond .. but decided to allow a free kick.. seeing as y'all seem to be struggling..

"Y'all'? I didn't realise that you were an American. That would explain your platitudes and ignorance of the issues.

BadgerBoi · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

JohnK said:
If Labour is going to be serious about challenging the next election then Shorten needs to go.

They are not united.

Whatever...

amaroo · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

drsmithy said:
No, I don't. How is that relevant ?

Very relevant!

drsmithy said:
. Relevance ?

Strange? You seem to support a man/country that kills people in West Papua....

mono88 · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

amaroo said:
Parliament has a completely different audience - different to talkback radio and doorstops. Point of difference is the rubbish spoken by Tanya compared to bubbling billy.......

Politcian talk is cheap & is waffle no matter where it is spoken, no matter who the audience is. The medium does not change this.
TA & BS are still speaking too much about Indonesia.
They need to get on with their jobs and earn their salary.

amaroo · Nov 23, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

mono88 said:
Politcian talk is cheap & is waffle no matter where it is spoken, no matter who the audience is. The medium does not change this.
TA & BS are still speaking too much about Indonesia.
They need to get on with their jobs and earn their salary.

Agree with that! If only we could get the ABC to stop the stupid questions on the stupid thing they decided to release...

mono88 · Nov 23, 2013

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amaroo said:
Agree with that! If only we could get the ABC to stop the stupid questions on the stupid thing they decided to release...

Politicians don't like questions, that's why they either lie or don't answer them.
Been like this for yonks and the current Govt so far in its short time is no different to all the rest.
Generally, the media including ABC, Fairfax, Murdoch etc etc is at the same level as the politicians, i.e. in the gutter.

drsmithy · Nov 24, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

amaroo said:
Very relevant!

How ?

Strange? You seem to support a man/country that kills people in West Papua....

You seem to be inferring things I haven't even come vaguely close to implying.

drsmithy · Nov 24, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

mono88 said:
Politcian talk is cheap & is waffle no matter where it is spoken, no matter who the audience is. The medium does not change this.
TA & BS are still speaking too much about Indonesia.
They need to get on with their jobs and earn their salary.

Er, you don't think their jobs is to maintain civil diplomatic relations with our nearest neighbour ?

amaroo · Nov 24, 2013

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drsmithy said:
You seem to be inferring things I haven't even come vaguely close to implying.

Does this make it clearer?

drsmithy · Nov 24, 2013

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amaroo said:
Does this make it clearer?

I think you need to look up what a conflation fallacy is.

It'd be nice if the right got as upset about their own morally bankrupt acts as they are now about the Indonesians. Throwing stones, and all that.

Rox · Nov 24, 2013

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amaroo said:
Does this make it clearer?

Without starting further argument (if possible) and diverging slightly more off topic, could someone explain why we are so anxious to be their best friend?
To me it seems they are operating on the "treat em mean and keep em keen" philosophy but I must have missed something.

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whatmeworry · Nov 24, 2013

Indonesian cartoonist showing some serious disrespect.

A caricature on the front page of an Indonesian newspaper depicts Abbott as a peeping tom, prising the door of Indonesia open with his hand down the front of his pants. He's moaning: "Ssst! Oh My God Indo ... So Sexy"

Read more: Abbott cartoonist recalled to ridicule PM

mono88 · Nov 24, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

drsmithy said:
Er, you don't think their jobs is to maintain civil diplomatic relations with our nearest neighbour ?

Yes but in a diplomatic way through the proper channels.
TA and BS talking nonsense does not help with any relationship.

BadgerBoi · Nov 24, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

mono88 said:
Yes but in a diplomatic way through the proper channels.
TA and BS talking nonsense does not help with any relationship.

Abbott talking nonsense is what caused this mess; it's up to him to fix it.

tgh · Nov 24, 2013

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Abbott talking nonsense...

perhaps you could explain this in a little more detail for those who may have missed it ?

BadgerBoi · Nov 24, 2013

Re: Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

tgh said:
Abbott talking nonsense...

perhaps you could explain this in a little more detail for those who may have missed it ?

It's a bit lazy to come on here and expect people to keep you informed when the information is so readily available to you; do your own research, there's a good chap.

Pushka · Nov 24, 2013

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BadgerBoi said:
It's a bit lazy to come on here and expect people to keep you informed when the information is so readily available to you; do your own research, there's a good chap.

I believe they were asking you to validate your opinion of Abbotts performance. Because that's what you are posting. Opinion and not fact.

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