Abbott in Government

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Well I reckon in that regard they are exactly like the commercial stations who could be described as a pack of whinging, rightist, misogynistic hypocrites. :mrgreen:

When was the last time you heard a right wing fanatic complain that women don't get paid enough?
 
Now where is your proof that TA is hopeless at diplomacy.Sure the leftist media says he is but is there any real proof?

(slaps forehead) Am I the only one on AFF who didn't know that you're actually a parody account? You've really had me going until I read that comment.
 
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(slaps forehead) Am I the only one on AFF who didn't know that you're actually a parody account? You've really had me going until I read that comment.
Right-wing rhetoric does tend to be nearly indistinguishable from satire. So without being able to see body language, it can be very hard to tell whether or not the person producing it is serious or not.
 
Proof please.

Wasting your time......the Billies couldn't give a rats about facts - it's pigeon holed in the same category as budgets, savings, surplus, responsibility!

Now the greens - they are just funny:lol:
 
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So basically you're saying he's disgraceful & embarrassing because he won't lie about it.
No, I'm saying he's created a massive mess by not reacting in the appropriate and accepted manner.

Obama's apology to Merkel when the yanks got sprung doing the same thing, is the kind of reaction that should have happened.

Abbot's biggest problem is his instinctive reaction to most situations is aggression and bluster.
 
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Obama's apology to Merkel when the yanks got sprung doing the same thing, is the kind of reaction that should have happened.

How do you know it hasn't happened?

Q - why wouldn't you back your PM over a guy leading a country that is chronically corrupt and has displayed disgraceful human rights?
 
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the 'billies , and their media unit , think he should lie … ie apologise ..after all that's a part of the leftie dna.
The PM, otoh, isn't planning to tell porkies, as he intends to spy on them again if it suits national interests.
There seems to be an interesting shift , in Indonesia , to diplomacy by media.
Manna for the abc who would just luuuurve to spin the rent a crowd hype into an anti conservative frenzy.
 
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Q - why wouldn't you back your PM over a guy leading a country that is chronically corrupt and has displayed disgraceful human rights?

I don't back any politician; they should be backing and supporting us, the people.
TA & BS should be getting on with the job not filling up airspace with waffle about Indonesia.
 
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I don't back any politician; they should be backing and supporting us, the people.
TA & BS should be getting on with the job not filling up airspace with waffle about Indonesia.

TBF if Abbott spoke less about Indo - he wouldn't be speaking!

FWIW - the point is simply back your own.......
 
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the 'billies , and their media unit , think he should lie … ie apologise ..after all that's a part of the leftie dna.
The PM, otoh, isn't planning to tell porkies, as he intends to spy on them again if it suits national interests.
So you're OK with Abbot's telling "porkies" to the Australian public for six years, but now if he does it as a part of a normal and expected part of international diplomacy around intelligence gathering, you think he's suddenly a beacon of honesty ?
 
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So you're OK with Abbot's telling "porkies" to the Australian public for six years, but now if he does it as a part of a normal and expected part of international diplomacy around intelligence gathering, you think he's suddenly a beacon of honesty ?

That's such a banal and disingenuous load of tripe in true leftie "speak" that I won't even bother to reply .
 
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TBF if Abbott spoke less about Indo - he wouldn't be speaking!

FWIW - the point is simply back your own.......

I think talking about Indonesia for 3 days in a week in Parliament plus at several media conferences/circuses is a lot of speaking about that topic.
Now...as to the content of the speaking on the topic to date from both TA and BS it is mostly waffle and says nothing.
I expect little else from our politicians.
 
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then why did you?

touche… :-)

I realised after I posted that someone would so respond .. but decided to allow a free kick.. seeing as y'all seem to be struggling.. :-)
 
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I wasn't suggesting that you were. IMHO, as I said, Shorten is the right person for this time but likely not to be come the next election.

If Labour is going to be serious about challenging the next election then Shorten needs to go.

They are not united.
 
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No, I'm saying he's created a massive mess by not reacting in the appropriate and accepted manner.

Obama's apology to Merkel when the yanks got sprung doing the same thing, is the kind of reaction that should have happened.

Abbot's biggest problem is his instinctive reaction to most situations is aggression and bluster.

Only one problem.Obama's apology was the exception not the rule.
The rule has always been to neither confirm or deny.
Even Bob Carr did exactly the same thing when he was asked if he should apologise as the bugging occurred on his watch.
His answer-I cant comment on intelligence matters.

Of course you lot cant confirm anything as you are so far into denial it would be impossible.
 
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That's such a banal and disingenuous load of tripe in true leftie "speak" that I won't even bother to reply .

Warning. This place is full of lefty rubbish.....like a butcher bin overflowing with offal....it's never ending!
 
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I think talking about Indonesia for 3 days in a week in Parliament plus at several media conferences/circuses is a lot of speaking about that topic.
Now...as to the content of the speaking on the topic to date from both TA and BS it is mostly waffle and says nothing.
I expect little else from our politicians.

Parliament has a completely different audience - different to talkback radio and doorstops. Point of difference is the rubbish spoken by Tanya compared to bubbling billy.......
 
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