Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[DC3]

Congrats Qantas, you've clearly improved your phone support 100-fold (minus leaking all my data). Genuinely impressed.

 

[tpor5488]

You can't add Classic Plus to

You can't add Classic Plus to a OWA

Thanks. I know that. That’s why I asked the question about the Classic awards with a final transit in the country of origin as I wasn’t sure that was allowed . Maybe could have phrased it better.

 

[GoatTastic]

Hi folks, I have two questions I'm hoping you can help me with:

1. Are flights that have a code from an eligible airline (e.g., AY for Finnair), but are 'operated by' a different provider (e.g., 'Nordic Reg For Finnair') eligible to book under the OneWorld Reward fare type?



2. If a transfer is EXACTLY 24 hours, is it eligible as a transfer, or does it become a stopover?

Thank you!

 

[J-P]

Hi folks,

Are flights that have a code from an eligible airline (e.g., AY for Finnair), but are 'operated by' a different provider (e.g., 'Nordic Reg For Finnair') eligible to book under the OneWorld Reward fare type?
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I can help here as someone kindly answered the same question for me a few pages ago.

Yes they are eligible. I am also able to confirm this first-hand for Nordic Reg as I booked one after I got the advice earlier

 

[GoatTastic]

I can help here as someone kindly answered the same question for me a few pages ago.

Yes they are eligible. I am also able to confirm this first-hand as I booked one after I got the advice earlier

Amazing - thank you. So sorry I missed it; I've read a few hundred pages of this forum, and I must've forgotten that detail!

 

[GoatTastic]

I can help here as someone kindly answered the same question for me a few pages ago.

Yes they are eligible. I am also able to confirm this first-hand for Nordic Reg as I booked one after I got the advice earlier

Sorry for the follow-up; I was editing my initial question while you wrote, so I'm also wondering whether you might know about my second question (when a transfer is EXACTLY 24 hours, is it eligible as a transfer, or does it become a stopover?). Thanks so much!

 

[GoatTastic]

Hi folks, I have two questions I'm hoping you can help me with:

1. Are flights that have a code from an eligible airline (e.g., AY for Finnair), but are 'operated by' a different provider (e.g., 'Nordic Reg For Finnair') eligible to book under the OneWorld Reward fare type?

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2. If a transfer is EXACTLY 24 hours, is it eligible as a transfer, or does it become a stopover?

Thank you!

I just successfully booked my itinerary and have answers! As @J-P confirmed:

Yes, flights with a code from an eligible airline but operated by a different provider are eligible.

Additionally, yes, transfers that are exactly 24 hours are counted as transfers, not stopovers.

I hope that helps someone else down the track!

 

[sojourningtemporarily]

Hi everyone,

I hope you are all well.

I have just managed to booked a RTW ticket that is split up over two trips (and idea I saw through this website I believe) beginning Dec 25/Jan26 ending March/April.

I am looking to book another separate RTW ticket which begins from my end point of the previous ticket.

I am looking to use it to begin in March/April, then in June/July then again in September 2026.
The issue is, obviously we can't book flights more than a year out and I want to make this booking before the points increase on Aug 5.

My thought is to book the portion that spans up to July 26 for 318000 and then later in the year add to it the flights that won't be available now (for an extra 5000 point fee, which would still work out cheaper than the 365800 that will soon be required.

I just wanted to verify, that my plan is sound in logic and if I begin to book whatever portions I can now, that the 318000 points will be honoured and further change will only cost 5000 points (provided I make these changes before the first flight of the ticket ofcourse).

Sorry for any rambling and thanks in advance for any help and further clarity.

 

[nickfromeastryde]

Hi everyone,

I hope you are all well.

I have just managed to booked a RTW ticket that is split up over two trips (and idea I saw through this website I believe) beginning Dec 25/Jan26 ending March/April.

I am looking to book another separate RTW ticket which begins from my end point of the previous ticket.

I am looking to use it to begin in March/April, then in June/July then again in September 2026.
The issue is, obviously we can't book flights more than a year out and I want to make this booking before the points increase on Aug 5.

My thought is to book the portion that spans up to July 26 for 318000 and then later in the year add to it the flights that won't be available now (for an extra 5000 point fee, which would still work out cheaper than the 365800 that will soon be required.

I just wanted to verify, that my plan is sound in logic and if I begin to book whatever portions I can now, that the 318000 points will be honoured and further change will only cost 5000 points (provided I make these changes before the first flight of the ticket ofcourse).

Sorry for any rambling and thanks in advance for any help and further clarity.

I've done the same, have booked 2 trips to Europe on the one OWA (2025 then 2026) finishing in KUL. Have booked a flight home KUL to MEL for June 2026 and hoping that will now be the first leg of a 2027 OWA still priced at 318K. The way I read the Qantas announcement, ie changes made to a booking made before 5 Aug, it should still be 318K but I'm not sure if that includes adding new flights. I guess we will have to wait and see as people start to book flights post 5/8.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I've done the same, have booked 2 trips to Europe on the one OWA (2025 then 2026) finishing in KUL. Have booked a flight home KUL to MEL for June 2026 and hoping that will now be the first leg of a 2027 OWA still priced at 318K. The way I read the Qantas announcement, ie changes made to a booking made before 5 Aug, it should still be 318K but I'm not sure if that includes adding new flights. I guess we will have to wait and see as people start to book flights post 5/8.

I think it will depend if you have the same product, or not.

If you have an existing fully capped OWA, it appears changes will stay within that cap.

If you don’t yet have a full OWA… say just two or three flights booked but not capped… you’d be changing the product from a simple classic reward to a OWA, and it’s possible you’d be charged under the new rates.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

I think it will depend if you have the same product, or not.

If you have an existing fully capped OWA, it appears changes will stay within that cap.

If you don’t yet have a full OWA… say just two or three flights booked but not capped… you’d be changing the product from a simple classic reward to a OWA, and it’s possible you’d be charged under the new rates.

Maybe there’s an argument to say that the itinerary wouldn’t necessarily need to be capped, just as long as there’s the two (non-QF) OneWorld carriers present (and no non-OneWorld carriers). According to the book of rules, that then fits the definition of a OWCFR.

This rule defines a OWCFR:
14.4.1 A oneworld Classic Flight Reward is a Classic Flight Reward Itinerary that includes travel on at least two oneworld Member Airlines other than Qantas and does not include any travel on any airline that is not a oneworld Member Airline.

All the other rules in this section are in the style of disqualifying events.

But of course, that argument entirely depends on QF knowing their own rules, and then applying them logically…

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Maybe there’s an argument to say that the itinerary wouldn’t necessarily need to be capped, just as long as there’s the two (non-QF) OneWorld carriers present (and no non-OneWorld carriers). According to the book of rules, that then fits the definition of a OWCFR.

This rule defines a OWCFR:
14.4.1 A oneworld Classic Flight Reward is a Classic Flight Reward Itinerary that includes travel on at least two oneworld Member Airlines other than Qantas and does not include any travel on any airline that is not a oneworld Member Airline.

All the other rules in this section are in the style of disqualifying events.

But of course, that argument entirely depends on QF knowing their own rules, and then applying them logically…

Good point!

Unless they distinguish between bands/zones? Which is a possibility? Otherwise potentially we’d be able to change a SYD-MEL to a SYD-LHR at the old points level.

 

[DC3]

Otherwise potentially we’d be able to change a SYD-MEL to a SYD-LHR at the old points level.

 

[Roman Sandstorm]

Again, I hope to mine the knowledge of this forum.

I have a leg of a Classic Rewards sequence arriving in HEL in December at 5:40 am.

I would like to get a HEL-BGO at 7:00 am, but I fear that may be too little time to be sure to connect. (Ideally, I would book ICN-BGO, but CR doesn't seem to permit this. )

There are no other CR-eligible flights to BGO from HEL until the next day, also at 7:00 am. Which means it is just over 24 hours, and thus counts as a 'stopover'.

So I am between a rock and a hard place. I *need* that stopover to save for later in my itinerary.

I have even considered HEL-OSL, and then OSL-BGO, but there are no CR-available seats of any class avail for OSL-BGO.

Would it be realistic to catch that 7:00 am at HEL airport? Or just too risky?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Again, I hope to mine the knowledge of this forum.

I have a leg of a Classic Rewards sequence arriving in HEL in December at 5:40 am.

I would like to get a HEL-BGO at 7:00 am, but I fear that may be too little time to be sure to connect. (Ideally, I would book ICN-BGO, but CR doesn't seem to permit this. )

There are no other CR-eligible flights to BGO from HEL until the next day, also at 7:00 am. Which means it is just over 24 hours, and thus counts as a 'stopover'.

So I am between a rock and a hard place. I *need* that stopover to save for later in my itinerary.

I have even considered HEL-OSL, and then OSL-BGO, but there are no CR-available seats of any class avail for OSL-BGO.

Would it be realistic to catch that 7:00 am at HEL airport? Or just too risky?

On a single ticket? Then the connection is fine. If you miss it, they’ll reaccommodate you on another flight.

If it’s a separate ticket, then HEL will count as a stopover anyway, so you might want to look at alternatives.

 

[nickfromeastryde]

Again, I hope to mine the knowledge of this forum.

I have a leg of a Classic Rewards sequence arriving in HEL in December at 5:40 am.

I would like to get a HEL-BGO at 7:00 am, but I fear that may be too little time to be sure to connect. (Ideally, I would book ICN-BGO, but CR doesn't seem to permit this. )

There are no other CR-eligible flights to BGO from HEL until the next day, also at 7:00 am. Which means it is just over 24 hours, and thus counts as a 'stopover'.

So I am between a rock and a hard place. I *need* that stopover to save for later in my itinerary.

I have even considered HEL-OSL, and then OSL-BGO, but there are no CR-available seats of any class avail for OSL-BGO.

Would it be realistic to catch that 7:00 am at HEL airport? Or just too risky?

You should be fine, Helsinki is an amazingly efficient airport. Twice we have been through there with connections less than an hour and done it easily. I think the MCT is somewhere around 40 - 45 minutes.

 

[SydneySwan]

You should be fine, Helsinki is an amazingly efficient airport. Twice we have been through there with connections less than an hour and done it easily. I think the MCT is somewhere around 40 - 45 minutes.

What about Schengen immigration? Don't you have to go through that if coming from outside Schengen but connecting to a Schengen county?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

What about Schengen immigration? Don't you have to go through that if coming from outside Schengen but connecting to a Schengen county?

HEL MCT takes that into account. But for the OP, not much choice, and if it’s in the one ticket, they will be fine. Their primary objective is to ‘save’ the stopover… so if they miss the connection, and re-route will preserve that stopover.

 

[atulhumane]

Hey Experts,

Sorry for the stupid question,
Can I change any flight sector (source and destination) from the OWA itenary? And do they charge the change fee or cancellation fee for this.

Example: one flight in my itinerary is HKG-BRU.

Can I change the source or destination or cancell it and add MNL-CDG instead as far as it meets the miles rule.

Thanks

 

[Captain Halliday]

Can I change any flight sector (source and destination) from the OWA itenary?

Yes. If the revised itinerary remains within the published rules.

do they charge the change fee or cancellation fee for this.

You’ll be charged the change fee.