Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[Magicturtle8]

I've been told on the phone that any transit must follow the same airlines. Is this true? I couldn't find any information about this online and i thought that as long as the airlines belong to the oneworld alliance, it is eligible. E.g. KUL-HK (MH @ 5th November) HK-TPE (CX @ 6th November)

 

[sydney]

I've been told on the phone that any transit must follow the same airlines. Is this true? I couldn't find any information about this online and i thought that as long as the airlines belong to the oneworld alliance, it is eligible. E.g. KUL-HK (MH @ 5th November) HK-TPE (CX @ 6th November)

It can be any One World airline. Just ask them to book it as 2 separate one way tickets within 24hrs. An agent informed me last night that there are two booking systems - a Qantas preferred and "Neutral" which shows more availability. A few times, they said they could not see the business award flight, but eventually could see it after changing systems or adding a flight first and then searching again, or logging out and back in. Who knows?!

 

[Captain Halliday]

I've been told on the phone that any transit must follow the same airlines. Is this true?

No.

 

[Captain Halliday]

It can be any One World airline. Just ask them to book it as 2 separate one way tickets within 24hrs.

Incorrect.

To be eligible as a One World Classic Flight Award it must be on the same ticket.

 

[FlyingFiona]

An agent informed me last night that...

after all your issues with the call centres, not sure why you still trust a word they say!

 

[sydney]

Incorrect.

To be eligible as a One World Classic Flight Award it must be on the same ticket.

Sorry, I mean two separate one way flights on the same ticket - in case that works.

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after all your issues with the call centres, not sure why you still trust a word they say!

I know right?!
p.s. I actually don't. Just repeating what they have told me to illustrate the mess it all is.

 

[Magicturtle8]

My trip plan has 15 segments however on the phone i've been thold that there is a limit to booking 10 segments maximum. How do people go around to safetly booking trips with more than 10 segments without having the risk of rebooking if something is wrong?

 

[Captain Halliday]

My trip plan has 15 segments however on the phone i've been thold that there is a limit to booking 10 segments maximum. How do people go around to safetly booking trips with more than 10 segments without having the risk of rebooking if something is wrong?

Incorrect. HUACA.

 

[sydney]

Incorrect. HUACA.

They have called back. Very nice gentleman can't ticket our alternative 11 segment itinerary. Have to delete last flight. Maybe this is the same 10 segment glitch that Magicturtle8 is experiencing?
Really would like this resolved and move on with our lives. He's putting me on hold to ticket the 10 segments to ensure we don't lose those flghts at least.

Afterwards, what should I do? Maybe email the ticketing team for help? Can't just keep HUACA as no one seems to be able to resolve the issue.

 

[J-P]

I can confirm it isn't a 10 segment problem as I just booked a >11 segment route yesterday. The "NZ counts as Australia" theory and the 2x Sydney stopovers theory seem the most likely to me

 

[sydney]

I can confirm it isn't a 10 segment problem as I just booked a >11 segment route yesterday. The "NZ counts as Australia" theory and the 2x Sydney stopovers theory seem the most likely to me

We just removed the AKL and flying out of SIN, but cannot return to Singapore as that is the 11th segment. This is so painful and frustrating.
So the current solution is to remove 2 connecting Business class flights and fly economy direct, which makes it 10 segments and he says that might work. Says he will call me back again tonight while he works on it.

I know we can book upto 16 segments, but their system has all these limits that they can't seem to get around.

 

[elanshin]

We just removed the AKL and flying out of SIN, but cannot return to Singapore as that is the 11th segment. This is so painful and frustrating.
So the current solution is to remove 2 connecting Business class flights and fly economy direct, which makes it 10 segments and he says that might work. Says he will call me back again tonight while he works on it.

I know we can book upto 16 segments, but their system has all these limits that they can't seem to get around.

There's no 10 segment limit. You can have 30 flights on the same PNR if you want (it won't qualify for OWA, but you can do it).

 

[DC3]

I've been told on the phone that any transit must follow the same airlines.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

[DC3]

I know we can book upto 16 segments, but their system has all these limits that they can't seem to get around.

I’m sensing incompetence here.

 

[sydney]

I’m sensing incompetence here.

If everyone I call says the same thing and encounters the same problem, how do I get it booked?
*Have already emailed with no response.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

We just removed the AKL and flying out of SIN, but cannot return to Singapore as that is the 11th segment. This is so painful and frustrating.
So the current solution is to remove 2 connecting Business class flights and fly economy direct, which makes it 10 segments and he says that might work. Says he will call me back again tonight while he works on it.

I know we can book upto 16 segments, but their system has all these limits that they can't seem to get around.

Something very wrong has happened to this booking. It sounds like some error has crept in, and agents are at a loss to identify it, so are coming up with different reasons. None of which seem to be fixing the problem because when you remove one, it creates something elsewhere.

There is no 10 sector limit. There is no reason for your ticket to be issued in thai baht. A transit less than 24 hours with an international sector is not considered a stopover.

Can you cancel the whole thing, and start again?

 

[DC3]

There is no 10 sector limit. There is no reason for your ticket to be issued in thai baht. A transit less than 24 hours with an international sector is not considered a stopover.

Agree. The whole pitch is total rubbish.

 

[sydney]

Can you cancel the whole thing, and start again?

That's what happened to the first one. They cancelled to try to rebook to remove the Thai baht issue.

This second one is in Aud but it won't ticket with 11 sectors. It ticketed with 10 sectors and left out 2 sectors. So we tried again.

If I cancel this booking, won't I have the same issues with agents not being able to ticket it and the same agents not understanding the rules?

Maybe I should ...
At the moment, it's no longer ticketed as far as I know.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

That's what happened to the first one. They cancelled to try to rebook to remove the Thai baht issue.

This second one is in Aud but it won't ticket with 11 sectors. It ticketed with 10 sectors and left out 2 sectors. So we tried again.

If I cancel this booking, won't I have the same issues with agents not being able to ticket it and the same agents not understanding the rules?

Maybe I should ...
At the moment, it's no longer ticketed as far as I know.

Are they outright cancelling the booking, or just deleting certain segments and keeping others, and then building the trip again?

I would just cancel the whole thing, and end the call.

A brand new call you simply ask to book some award flights. You do not mention OWA at all.

You say you need their assistance because the multi-system tool doesn’t have enough room.

Then you just read out the flights you have found.

I wouldn’t do it on the same call you cancel, it sounds like the agents are trying to keep some flights to save having to re-enter them all.

Important that you do not mention OWA at all. Just say you want to book award flights. The system will auto cap the points provided you have followed the rules.

I’m not sure if there was ever a solution to the AU/NZ being considered the same country. Best to avoid it if you can.

If you do start in AKL, it’s unlikely you’ll be able t9 add you SYD-MEL-DPS and return at the end, as you’ll already have returned.

 

[sydney]

They're keeping some segments and adding a couple at the beginning and 3 at the end. No AKL or Bali. If we cancel, we'll be charged the cancellation fee and they've already deducted the points so don't have enough points left to rebook until points are returned.

As it is, we just cancelled 2 Qantas business award seats from Sydney to New York to have enough points to rebook the cancelled One World as not all points were returned yet. (We booked 2 economy award seats on Velocity instead. That is going to be one uncomfortable trip to US on United.)

Still waiting for another call back to see but hoping that with only 10 segments now, it'll ticket. Once this is over, we'll try to ditch Qantas pts and collect more Velocity. Not happy Jan!