Angry about proposed travel ban exemption for footballers

[DC3]

Hopefully, this latest incident will be the end of AFL player nonsense in QLD.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

And someone likely loses their job whether the two players pay or not as it still hits the soft cap. Given Richmond is one of the giant clubs with masses of back office staff it could be anyone, not just a coach.

It is those that are in back offices, or employees of the many other businesses that derive income from sport that I am very concerned about. I know that some only see the players, but it not just about the players, it is about the whole vast number of people that derive all, or part of their income from sport.

When the AFL season was halted about 80% of support staff staff were stood down including both back office staff as well as assistant coaches, physios etc. If the season had not been resumed this would have become more. With it having been resumed a number of people have been re-employed. Budgets have been slashed for 2020, and so many have not been. Though soft cap budgets for 2021 will still be radically be below what they were in 2019.

Beyond those employees there are all the other staff not employed by the clubs that were also stood down (and again some will now be back at work) due the season having been suspended. The groundskeepers, suppliers, ticket staff, door staff , security staff, physios, merchandising staff, retail staff, manufacturing staff, media staff, Foxtel staff, etc. The players are only a small fraction of all the jobs involved.

If you take a company like Foxtel, subscription and other revenues there is very much dependant on sport. With no, or limited, sport more and more individual subscriptions lapse, move to Netflix etc. With no sport all those very valuable commercial subscriptions (ie in pubs etc) get chopped, or reduced too. This is why the workforce of Foxtel has been decimated. If the AFL, NRL competitions etc had not have been resumed then vastly more people would have been stood down that have so far been.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Hopefully, this latest incident will be the end of AFL player nonsense in QLD.

Doubt it - we still have 6 weeks or so to go, including the Brownlow.

 

[DC3]

Then pay them as "boys", not as men. What's a fair price $15/hr?

Yes. 20-year old boys.

What’s the toddler rate by the way?

 

[jase05]

With the soft cap, in this case, it could just as easily be distributed between the big earners taking a small cut and no one would be forced to leave.

Sounds easy but most of the big earners are on multiple year contracts that has been factored in to not only this years cap but future caps so to tear up contracts and re-negotiate has ramifications especially as the soft cap is set to be reduced next year. It works out to approximately 3% of the current soft cap so most likely that 1 or 2 staff might have to move on which usually happens through natural attrition at most clubs

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Doubt it - we still have 6 weeks or so to go, including the Brownlow.

And they are most likely staying there until Christmas at least

 

[DC3]

Sounds easy but most of the big earners are on multiple year contracts that has been factored in to not only this years cap but future caps so to tear up contracts and re-negotiate has ramifications especially as the soft cap is set to be reduced next year. It works out to approximately 3% of the current soft cap so most likely that 1 or 2 staff might have to move on which usually happens through natural attrition at most clubs

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And they are most likely staying there until Christmas at least

Yes. But big earners are more likely to be smart enough to follow the rules.

Not sure about natural attrition being used in covering foolish players.

 

[prozac]

Yes. 20-year old boys.

What’s the toddler rate by the way?

Is that a skilled up toddler or one as unskilled labourer.
I figured, wrongly, football teams transplanted to Qld would have some restriction of movement imposed. If a team member brought CV back to training it could end up stopping the games altogether. No idea what the answer is.

 

[Pushka]

Apparently the club getting the players to pay the fine is not allowed as part of the code of conduct agreement reached between league officials and the AFLPA.

In the circumstances here the irony of that is just tragic.

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Yes. But big earners are more likely to be smart enough to follow the rules.

Ah, like the Captain Cochin? His wife anyway.

 

[jase05]

Not sure about natural attrition being used in covering foolish players.

By that I mean every year dozens of staff from each club move to other clubs or jobs outside the industry so there will be positions that either won’t be filled or perhaps part time only. There is plenty of wastage amongst football clubs so I’m sure they can cover it

 

[DC3]

... Ah, like the Captain Cochin? His wife anyway.

Yes, but who is going to argue with the wife. Him, not.

 

[DC3]

By that I mean every year dozens of staff from each club move to other clubs or jobs outside the industry so there will be positions that either won’t be filled or perhaps part time only. There is plenty of wastage amongst football clubs so I’m sure they can cover it

Yes, well maybe. However, I’m not privy to that sort of information.

 

[jase05]

Yes, well maybe. However, I’m not privy to that sort of information.

I have had plenty of experience around state based football clubs and have even done some work on a short term contract with a Melbourne based AFL club and you get a bit of an insight into how most operate. They do have a lot of people on part time and short contract such as specialist coaches, psychologists, etc so it just mean that that the ex player who spends 2 days a week at the club teaching tackling only comes in 1 day a week that sort of thing. A lot of these types work at multiple clubs so if their hours are cut at one they can get more at another.

 

[Seat0B]

Yep my foofoo valve is getting another work out. So predictable that things like this would happen, but still makes me shake my head. The emotion I feel now is more despair than anger

 

[DC3]

Yep my foofoo valve is getting another work out. So predictable that things like this would happen, but still makes me shake my head. The emotion I feel now is more despair than anger

... and watch this space.

 

[Seat0B]

... and watch this space.

??? @DC3 ??? not following your meaning

 

[Pushka]

??? @DC3 ??? not following your meaning

There are some nasty rumours floating around but not directly COVID related.

 

[DC3]

??? @DC3 ??? not following your meaning

Nothing specific.

From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English watch this space ... used to tell people to pay attention in the future because things are going to develop further ....

 

[DC3]

There are some nasty rumours floating around but not directly COVID related.

... just AFL in general?

 

[Seat0B]

Nothing specific.

From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English watch this space ... used to tell people to pay attention in the future because things are going to develop further ....

Yeah thanks, I understood to pay attention, but I did not know what you were suggesting I should pay attention to . However, with hint from @Pushka, I'm going to follow the news of footballers' exploits quite closely to see what you are hinting at....

 

[I love to travel]

... and watch this space.

If you are referring to the Sydney Swans player that is being reported quite openly online