Now, a great wine like a great sportman has a thousand fathers, but could a loser become an orphan...could you bank on it ????.......These are serious questions folks but what do they pertain to? What the hell am i talking about, ramling on in a post euphoric stage after the consumption of too many pharmaceuticals? No, not quite even though sherlock holmes did enjoy a little morphine. The 2013 BM Shiraz could be the Langmeil Old vine Garden Orphan Bank Shiraz ???? Rather ironic timing if it is, since the Reserve dropped interest rates to 2%, and VM dropped this plonk to $15. If it is, you have to hand it to some VM smarty. Was this possibly the covert, cryptic,conclusive,committed contribution from Karlos??? God knows the aliteration really needed him to be a jackal !! Food for thought from others who know a lot more than me.