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  1. Chucksta

    Chucksta Active Member

    Mar 19, 2006
    Does anyone's job/work pay for business/work related flights in First or Biz class?

    If so, what do you? Just curious..

    Also, whats the most SC anyone has earned in a membership year?

    I managed to earn 1430 with alot of domestic flights, a star class return flight to BKK, and a recently completed OW circle asia fare in J.



  2. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

    Jul 10, 2006
    My company pays for Biz on anything over 6 hours. Then depending on the schedules and availability they will pay for discounted F travel. I am the APAC Internal Audit Director reporting to the US - so twice a year I have to visit the US and three times a year up into Asia (less next year).

    As I now put my points to AA my SC earning. If i had put all of the 2005-2006 and 2006-2007 flights to QF then my SCs would be:

    Oct 05 - Sep 06 - 800
    Oct 06 - Sep 07 (forecast) - 6200

    That can't be right...

    Hmm flights taken (and planned) between 1 Oct 06 and 30 Sep 07:

    Date	Airline	Origin	Des	Basis	Class	Miles	Program	 SCs 	Cum
    03-Nov-06	BA	BKK	SYD	W	WT+	 4,692 	QF	 60 	 60 
    04-Nov-06	QF	SYD	AKL	D	BUS	 1,343 	QF	 80 	 140 
    04-Nov-06	AA	LAX	JFK	D	BUS	 2,472 	QF	 100 	 240 
    04-Nov-06	QF	AKL	LAX	D	BUS	 6,523 	QF	 160 	 400 
    08-Nov-06	AA	JFK	LHR	D	BUS	 3,445 	QF	 100 	 500 
    09-Nov-06	BA	LHR	LCA	D	BUS	 2,039 	QF	 80 	 580 
    12-Nov-06	BA	LCA	LHR	D	BUS	 2,039 	QF	 80 	 660 
    12-Nov-06	CX	LHR	HKG	D	BUS	 5,990 	QF	 160 	 820 
    13-Nov-06	CX	HKG	SYD	D	BUS	 4,599 	QF	 120 	 940 
    19-Nov-06	QF	SYD	SIN	D	BUS	 3,915 	QF	 120 	 1,060 
    19-Nov-06						 -   	QF	 -   	 1,060 
    24-Nov-06	QF	SIN	SYD	D	BUS	 3,915 	QF	 120 	 1,180 
    02-Dec-06	CX	SYD	HKG	F	FIRST	 4,599 	QF	 180 	 1,360 
    03-Dec-06	CX	HKG	NRT	F	FIRST	 1,842 	QF	 120 	 1,480 
    05-Dec-06	CX	NRT	HKG	F	FIRST	 1,842 	QF	 120 	 1,600 
    08-Dec-06	CX	HKG	SYD	F	FIRST	 4,599 	QF	 180 	 1,780 
    17-Mar-07	CX	SYD	HKG	D	BUS	 4,599 	QF	 120 	 1,900 
    17-Mar-07	CX	HKG	LAX	D	BUS	 7,255 	QF	 180 	 2,080 
    17-Mar-07	AA	LAX	MIA	F	FIRST	 2,340 	QF	 120 	 2,200 
    18-Mar-07	AA	MIA	MCO	F	FIRST	 500 	QF	 60 	 2,260 
    21-Mar-07	AA	MCO	LGA	F	FIRST	 952 	QF	 90 	 2,350 
    29-Mar-07	AA	JFK	BGI	D	BUS	 2,093 	QF	 80 	 2,430 
    29-Mar-07	BA	BGI	LGW	D	BUS	 4,204 	QF	 120 	 2,550 
    29-Mar-07	BA	LGW	PFO	D	BUS	 1,981 	QF	 80 	 2,630 
    31-Mar-07	BA	LCA	LHR	D	BUS	 2,039 	QF	 80 	 2,710 
    01-Apr-07						 -   	QF	 120 	 2,830 
    03-Apr-07	CX	LHR	HKG	D	BUS	 5,990 	QF	 160 	 2,990 
    04-Apr-07	QF	HKG	SYD	D	BUS	 4,599 	QF	 120 	 3,110 
    13-Apr-07	QF	SYD	BNE	D	BUS	 500 	QF	 40 	 3,150 
    15-Apr-07	QF	BNE	SYD	D	BUS	 500 	QF	 40 	 3,190 
    13-May-07						 -   	QF	 -   	 3,190 
    14-May-07	QF	SYD	hkg	A	FIRST	 4,599 	QF	 180 	 3,370 
    14-May-07	KA	hkg	pek	Y	Eco		QF	 20 	 3,390 
    17-May-07	KA	pek	hkg	D	BUS		QF	 40 	 3,430 
    21-May-07	KA	hkg	pvg	D	BUS		QF	 40 	 3,470 
    25-May-07	KA	pvg	hkg	A	BUS		QF	 40 	 3,510 
    25-May-07	QF	hkg	SYD	D	FIRST	 4,599 	QF	 180 	 3,690 
    07-Jul-07	CX	SYD	HKG	D	BUS	 4,599 	QF	 120 	 3,810 
    07-Jul-07	CX	HKG	SIN	D	BUS	 1,595 	QF	 80 	 3,890 
    07-Jul-07	QF	SIN	FRA	D	BUS	 6,394 	QF	 160 	 4,050 
    08-Jul-07	QF	FRA	HEL	D	BUS	 957 	QF	 60 	 4,110 
    21-Jul-07	BA	LHR	dxb	D	BUS	 3,419 	QF	 100 	 4,210 
    21-Jul-07	BA	dxb	LHR	D	BUS	 3,419 	QF	 100 	 4,310 
    25-Jul-07	BA	LGW	bgi	D	BUS	 4,204 	QF	 120 	 4,430 
    25-Jul-07	AA	bgi	JFK	D	BUS	 2,093 	QF	 80 	 4,510 
    29-Jul-07	AA	JFK	DFW	D	BUS	 1,377 	QF	 80 	 4,590 
    29-Jul-07	AA	DFW	LAX	D	BUS	 1,244 	QF	 80 	 4,670 
    29-Jul-07	AA	LAX	JFK	D	BUS	 2,472 	QF	 100 	 4,770 
    30-Jul-07	JL	JFK	NRT	D	BUS	 6,736 	QF	 160 	 4,930 
    31-Jul-07	CX	NRT	HKG	D	BUS	 1,842 	QF	 80 	 5,010 
    01-Aug-07	CX	HKG	SYD	D	BUS	 4,599 	QF	 120 	 5,130 
    18-Aug-07	QF	SYD	PER	D	BUS	 2,038 	QF	 80 	 5,210 
    18-Aug-07	QF	PER	ADL	D	BUS	 1,488 	QF	 80 	 5,290 
    18-Aug-07	QF	ADL	MEL	D	BUS	 500 	QF	 40 	 5,330 
    18-Aug-07	QF	MEL	SYD	D	BUS	 500 	QF	 40 	 5,370 
    09-Sep-07	QF	syd	hkg	D	BUS	 4,599 	QF	 120 	 5,490 
    20-Sep-07	CX	hkg	nrt	D	BUS	 1,842 	QF	 80 	 5,570 
    21-Sep-07	JL	nrt	lax	D	BUS	 5,445 	QF	 140 	 5,710 
    21-Sep-07	AA	lax	jfk	f	FIRST	 2,472 	QF	 150 	 5,860 
    27-Sep-07	AA	jfk	bgi	D	BUS	 2,093 	QF	 80 	 5,940 
    27-Sep-07	BA	BGI	lhr	D	BUS	 4,204 	QF	 120 	 6,060 
    28-Sep-07	BA	lhr	lca	D	BUS	 2,039 	QF	 80 	 6,140 
  3. serfty


    Nov 16, 2004
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    Given that travel, IMHO you should put enough flights to earn 1,400 SC's to QF. There should be plenty of the 160K+ miles (or 300K+ Qpoints) left to earn AA EXP as well. :cool:
  4. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

    Jul 10, 2006
    Yeah thinking about that - I currently have 260K FF points on AAdvantage. I need between 300 and 380K points before Mid august to get sufficient points for two rtw J awards (planned for July 2008).

    As my qualifying period is to 30 Sep and I have flight straddling that - if I put all my flights post qualifying for EXP to QF I will be about 20K short of the points needed for the trip (no biggie I am sure I can get those points together somehow). However I will only be WP until Sep 2008 - I just wish I could earn enough points post 30 Sep to qualif for WP early.

    If I look at all flights post Sep 30 then I reckon that by the end of 2006 Calendar year I will earn (1 Oct to 31 Dec) only 760 SCs. I dont want to jeopardise my EXP status for nexy year and I think I will only have at most 2xDONE4 and 1xCircle Asia (just sneaking into EXP next year).

    Just seems a waste to qualify for WP so late in the year - to only get benefit for 14 months seems a waste...

    Decisions decisions - at least I have until late July to debate that here ;)
  5. serfty


    Nov 16, 2004
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    You could be selective in looking for those flights which are just into the next SC tier by a few miles or so.

    I.e. Put a 1244 mile DFW-LAX flight to QF as it's 43 miles over the 1201 mile tier level and a 2340 mile LAX-MIA flight to AAdvantage as it's 59 miles under the 2401 Tier level. In first you would get the same 120 SC's for both in QF , but 2488 Qpoints against 4680 respectively in AAdvantage.
  6. Keith009

    Keith009 Established Member

    Mar 6, 2005
    Brisbane / Sydney
    I'm allowed to book D class on MELCBRMEL if the D fare is only a marginal difference to the 'cheapest available' economy fare.

    Having said that I now prefer the Y seats on the QFlink prop service to the J seats on the 734. Unfortunately the QFlink service doesn;'t necessarily suit my schedules. :(

    And alas that's all the work travel that I do.

    Anyone wants to give me a list of career options that involve lots of long haul J travel that I can think about post graduation? :D
  7. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

    Jul 10, 2006
    I think if I was already WP or EXP I would play a few more games to maximise the benefit on the two programs. As I am trying to get to OWE for the first time I want to get there quickly. After that is the decision point. The only benefit of WP is better access to QF F upgrades and I dont actually have any QF flights planned at the moment :oops: so its not something i need. I wish my US trip was in First week of October - then I would definitely go for WP...

    Apologies for hijacking the thread (again)
  8. tscharke

    tscharke Member

    Sep 28, 2006
    #8 tscharke, May 28, 2007
    Last edited: May 28, 2007
    my work has only recently eased off on their travel policy and allowed J bookings (thank god!) Im the Business Process Manager for Asia Pac with most of the travel being to Singapore and Tokyo, however also with the odd trip to Amsterdam and Ottawa.

    I was only introduced to the world of the frequent flyer last august (thanks simongr). I gained AA plat through the challenge last year and requalified this year only last week (hoping to qual for exp by end of july)

    Just to add to the QF v AA debate....I'll be allocating all my points to AA as my main objective is to get award flights for the family and to where we want to go you need far less points in the AA program than in QF! The only benefit I see in me going QF would be to get rid of that ugly bronze QF card in the wallet and to be able to have the 744 upperdeck seat 16A pre-allocated to me (now thats what I call 'leg room' ;) )
  9. DTM1

    DTM1 Member

    Jun 27, 2006
    My work allows me to travel J for anything over 4 hours (although PER-MEL is counted towards that - thank goodness, have done that trip 6 times already this calendar year).

    However, if client's policy is J, then I can travel J on shorter flights (when client is paying).
  10. IainF

    IainF Member

    May 2, 2007
    I am AA EXP Plat.. all on Disc whY....
    My company has a travel policy that mandates whY on all flights.
    My nightly hotel rate is also low but being IC plat has helped make this more comfortable.

    To clear things up a little, I work in medical devices, but my boss is a sterotypical Scotsman...
    My peers in other companies are having a ball compared to me.

    That being said, I got to EXP from January 06 to November 07 by sectors (100+), Q miles and Q points.

    I did get a few flights in WT+, but managed to also get quite a few Australia to Asia flights in B or Y booking classes. This was due to a large number of very short notice flights...

    I am planning a DoneX for later this year just to make sure I am at Exp again.

    I have had a few op ups in the last year from both BA and CX, but as per most peoples experience.. not ever from QF.

    The guys doing yield management should move careers to blackjack.. they are usually pretty well spot on the numbers and would make a fortune counting cards... :D
  11. shillard

    shillard Guest

    IanF, not Olympus is it? :D

    I get J on anything 4 hours +, and all international.

    If I didn't, I'd likely pay the extra myself on those sectors anyway.

    Anything sub-4 hours is flexible economy, usually flexisaver or JetFlex - so I get to maintian WP status without living out of a suitcase these days.
  12. IainF

    IainF Member

    May 2, 2007
    No such luck..:D

    If my boss had his way he would wrap me in bubblewrap and Fed Ex me.

    I have upped myself on several occasions with points, but this has only been to save my sanity.
    It really got out of hand when I flew in to SIN, worked the next day and flew out on the overnight flight and went straight into the office when i got in and then that night flew out back to MEL....

    The most expensive thing about these sort of flights will be the lawyer at my divorce !
  13. Febs

    Febs Established Member

    Aug 15, 2006
    Internal Audit seems to be a popular one (I've heard of positions at MacqBank having 75%+ travel, both domestic and int'l).

    Working for one of the Big 4 can also have its travel advantages, even as a new grad...though usually not as a graduate accountant.

    Our work policy depends entirely on your position Depending on where you sit, you could be flying everywhere in Y, or everywhere in J/F (yes, the policy includes F travel for some :)).

    Sometimes we go by the clients' policies though, in which case even the Y travellers (ie: me) get to experience J. :)

  14. tscharke

    tscharke Member

    Sep 28, 2006
    the whole SOX act introduced massive amounts of travel for the internal auditor.....the majority of US listed companies and their subs are now settled when it comes to this and the crazy travel times are dying down...however there are still pots of 'travel' gold out there...

    from 7+ years in the big4 I did get to travel however it doesnt compare to commerce...
  15. Febs

    Febs Established Member

    Aug 15, 2006
    No doubt there are careers out there with a lot more travel, but I find my current level of travel suits me. Approx once/month (sometimes a bit less) - usually domestic, but with a bit of int'l thrown in.

    In 18 months I've been on four overseas trips (two in J), and qualified for QFF Gold two years in a row. :)

    - Febs.
  16. tscharke

    tscharke Member

    Sep 28, 2006
    thats good going febs...

    during my big4 times I always seemed to manage to get the clients who insisted in whY travel.......even on the aus-uk trips :evil:!!!
  17. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

    Jul 10, 2006
    Are you insinuating something?
  18. tscharke

    tscharke Member

    Sep 28, 2006
  19. shillard

    shillard Guest

    Learn to sell.

  20. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

    Jul 10, 2006
    No that was the cheap **** partners who wouldnt fly you J to the UK even though they were making a fortune of you...

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