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Will you vaccinate with Conoravirus vaccine when one is available?

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According to reports, coronavirus vaccine is entering its final phase of testing and very soon we will have millions of coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out, hopefully from September.

By then, should a coronavirus vaccine is available, will you vaccinate it?

Personally speaking, as a 30 year old young person, I will not vaccinate myself with Coronavirus, because:

1. It is just a small flu for young people, we won't die;
2. The vaccine is rushed and I cannot guarantee if I vaccinate myself, I will be immune to Coronavirus and not get killed by the vaccine;
3. The coronavirus vaccine is just a step to reopen our borders so that we can travel overseas again.

I am not anti-vaxier, however I only think that Coronavirus vaccine is just a political ticket for politicians to explain to the public that they can now open the international borders again and ease off travel bubbles.

What do you think?
 

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According to reports, coronavirus vaccine is entering its final phase of testing and very soon we will have millions of coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out .....

.... I will not vaccinate myself with Coronavirus ....

1. It is just a small flu for young people, we won't die;
2. The vaccine is rushed and I cannot guarantee if I vaccinate myself, I will be immune to Coronavirus and not get killed by the vaccine;
3. The coronavirus vaccine is just a step to reopen our borders so that we can travel overseas again ....

Where do we sign up?

I can’t see myself travelling to the USA, just to mention one country, without some sort of COVID vax. 🙂

What destinations do you have in mind for your no-vax travels? 🤔

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Perhaps this thread could go to the Playground. 😉

Edit: ‘Off-topic’ thread, or whatever it’s called now?
 
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My expectation is that if/when a safe and effective vaccine is available it will very quickly become a pre-requisite for international travel. I would expect to be vaccinated at that point.

Having said that, if a vaccine was available at scale in September, as you suggest, then I'd need a lot of convincing that it was proven to be both safe and effective. From what I understand of vaccine testing (and there are others here far more knowledgeable than me), this timeframe suggests compromise on some element of the process.
 

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My expectation is that if/when a safe and effective vaccine is available it will very quickly become a pre-requisite for international travel. I would expect to be vaccinated at that point.

Having said that, if a vaccine was available at scale in September, as you suggest, then I'd need a lot of convincing that it was proven to be both safe and effective. From what I understand of vaccine testing (and there are others here far more knowledgeable than me), this timeframe suggests compromise on some element of the process.
My acceptance would be based on whether the vaccine had been previously used as a vaccine for other illnesses. I'm assuming that if a vaccine was 'discovered' this quickly that human safety had already been tested for previous use.
 

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My acceptance would be based on whether the vaccine had been previously used as a vaccine for other illnesses. I'm assuming that if a vaccine was 'discovered' this quickly that human safety had already been tested for previous use.
The Moderna vaccine that was linked in another thread is an RNA vaccine.None have been approved for human release but have been used in animals.I certainly wouldn't be amongst the first for that vaccine.
 

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1. It is just a small flu for young people, we won't die;
2. The vaccine is rushed and I cannot guarantee if I vaccinate myself, I will be immune to Coronavirus and not get killed by the vaccine;
3. The coronavirus vaccine is just a step to reopen our borders so that we can travel overseas again.

I am not anti-vaxier, however I only think that Coronavirus vaccine is just a political ticket for politicians to explain to the public that they can now open the international borders again and ease off travel bubbles.

What do you think?
Why would the vaccine kill you if the coronavirus itself won't?

Btw - the virus can still kill you as a 30 year old, or severely damage your lungs. Or cause other damage, long term.

The vaccine is there to do things like travel overseas. If you don't want to travel, no need to get the vaccine I guess.
 

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According to reports, coronavirus vaccine is entering its final phase of testing and very soon we will have millions of coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out, hopefully from September.

By then, should a coronavirus vaccine is available, will you vaccinate it?

Personally speaking, as a 30 year old young person, I will not vaccinate myself with Coronavirus, because:

1. It is just a small flu for young people, we won't die;
2. The vaccine is rushed and I cannot guarantee if I vaccinate myself, I will be immune to Coronavirus and not get killed by the vaccine;
3. The coronavirus vaccine is just a step to reopen our borders so that we can travel overseas again.

I am not anti-vaxier, however I only think that Coronavirus vaccine is just a political ticket for politicians to explain to the public that they can now open the international borders again and ease off travel bubbles.

What do you think?
Which fairy story was it in that a vaccine would be available with millions of doses by September?
 

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A safe fully and comprehensively tested & trialled vaccine that provides comprehensive protection from the virus with reasonable longevity, no side effects and AU government certification (TGA) will not be available for general consumption in September 2020 no matter what media reports say/claim/dream up/speculate.
 
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At this stage if something is coming out in September it won't be going into my body. I'm willing to let others be the guinea pigs and my greatest concern would be the haste with which any such vaccination has been approved.
 
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At this stage if something is coming out in September it won't be going into my body. I'm willing to let others be the guinea pigs and my greatest concern would be the haste with which any such vaccination has been approved.
I think that's reasonable :)

They are going to test on 30000 people, apparently. I guess it depends on the outcomes of the trials. If they looked good based on that 30K sample, I'd probably be happy to have it.
 
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My issue is that I have never had a flu shot. I don’t get the flu. Although I have had a the occasional cold. My mum is 86 never had a cold or flu in her life. Likewise my sister. I guess they are blessed with good genes.
My defence against colds and flu may not be as robust as theirs. So the Covid thing “may” be another version Of the flu shot and so my “potential “ immunity/ resistance may be a foregone conclusion.
i just don’t know enough about it yet.
I guess I will see what happens when the time comes and take professional advice
 
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If travelling the issue is not so much whether I get it and of course the aftermath of that, but if I'm stuck in a plane/ship/resort when others around me might get and what happens for quarantine then.
 

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I am not anti-vaxier,
To be blunt.
Those are precisely some of the arguments anti-vaxers will trot out.

Vaccines only work well if the vast majority are vaccinated - to stop spread (and there will always be some who can't be vaccinated) - eg. Babies, immuno-compromised, those with certain allergies (eg. Many vaccines use egg protein).

Precisely why we've seen recent clusters of diseases like measles in areas where there is a low vacc rate.

You may only be at a small risk, but your parents and grandparents are not so fortunate.

Anti-vaxers will twist the truth to support their argument. Take this letter which has apparently been doing the rounds in anti-vaxer groups.

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I'll leave you to think about why that letter is pointless.
 

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According to reports, coronavirus vaccine is entering its final phase of testing and very soon we will have millions of coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out, hopefully from September.

By then, should a coronavirus vaccine is available, will you vaccinate it?

Personally speaking, as a 30 year old young person, I will not vaccinate myself with Coronavirus, because:

1. It is just a small flu for young people, we won't die;
Young people do die. Others can suffer sever problems for a while.

2. The vaccine is rushed and I cannot guarantee if I vaccinate myself, I will be immune to Coronavirus and not get killed by the vaccine;
So your argument is:
  • If there is any risk to yourself and possibly no guaranteed benefit then you will not participate
  • That if others including your own relatives at put at risk by your actions then that is all ok


3. The coronavirus vaccine is just a step to reopen our borders so that we can travel overseas again.
So people living in Australia do not matter?


I am not anti-vaxier, however I only think that Coronavirus vaccine is just a political ticket for politicians to explain to the public that they can now open the international borders again and ease off travel bubbles.
Tinfoil hat time.


What do you think?

When you go back and visit your family in Hong Kong perhaps think of them and their risk, as your post seems to think only about yourself.

HK Border Control may not let you in anyway. Why should HK take the risk and let in an unvaccinated person?

Also why should Australia let you back in?

Personally I think that once a vaccine is available that people should only be allowed to enter Australia from a Covid 19 Country if you have had it. Genuine medical reasons excepted. An alternative could be paying for a full 14 day quarantine at full cost of supervision as well as transport, accommodation, food and cleaning. ie $4-5000 odd.
 
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