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What's A Better Way to Price International Long-Haul Flights

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inpd

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Hi,

All this talk about longer trips being cheaper and unadvertised sales
going on for 3 hours got me thinking the airlines are really screwed up.

So what would be a fairer (for both airline and oursevles) of pricing
long haul trips beyond just origin and destination and class of travel.

I would suggest:

a) Weight (the larger the person, the more jet fuel!)
b) Leg-room in economy (I would pay $100 for a 5 more inches)
c) Quality of meals (no reason they can't serve business meals
in economy for a price)
d) anything else?

Also, be warned that I passed my U.S. citizenship test last week,
so I'm now also an American as well. So your going to see some changes
in my behavior from now on ... :p All oil in the world is ours regardless
if its in the U.S. or not :eek: and all poor people need is to help themselves :shock: .
 

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At 6'3" I would welcome any way to get additional legroom in economy, even by paying extra.

I hope that with the delivery of the A380 that QF introduces a premium economy product with more seat pitch. At least that way on true long haul flights there would be some addtional comfort. It is probably unlikely though that QF would introduce the same product on regional routes serviced by the A330. This may change when they take delivery of the 787, but this is just my speculation

Am not overly concerned about food in Y. It is palatable, but I tend not to eat too much on long haul flights. Perhaps a better selection of alcohol though.

You could add more personal attention as d) in the above list, but that individual has just been sacked by QF ;) More attentive staff in Y would be appreciated though.

inpd said:
All oil in the world is ours regardless
if its in the U.S. or not :eek: and all poor people need is to help themselves :shock:
Were they questions on the citizenship test? :)

And I guess that we are just lucky that we don't have something here that Dubya wants - otherwise it would be an even closer AU - USA relationship ;)
 

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inpd said:
Hi,

All this talk about longer trips being cheaper and unadvertised sales
going on for 3 hours got me thinking the airlines are really screwed up.

So what would be a fairer (for both airline and oursevles) of pricing
long haul trips beyond just origin and destination and class of travel.

I would suggest:

a) Weight (the larger the person, the more jet fuel!)
b) Leg-room in economy (I would pay $100 for a 5 more inches)
c) Quality of meals (no reason they can't serve business meals
in economy for a price)
d) anything else?

Also, be warned that I passed my U.S. citizenship test last week,
so I'm now also an American as well. So your going to see some changes
in my behavior from now on ... :p All oil in the world is ours regardless
if its in the U.S. or not :eek: and all poor people need is to help themselves :shock: .
If you are going to do that then I'd like discounts for

I) Not using much (any) of my baggage allowance
II) Saving the airline marketing/promo costs (I don't see the tv/newspaper/etc ads and base decisions on price, availability and experience)
III) Saving on magazine cost - I only need to read it once in all my flights each month
IV) Saving on meals - I seem to eat less than many others around me
V) Reduced cost of check in - I know the drill and thus can get checked in very fast, saving time and money for the airline
etc.
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
If you are going to do that then I'd like discounts for

I) Not using much (any) of my baggage allowance
II) Saving the airline marketing/promo costs (I don't see the tv/newspaper/etc ads and base decisions on price, availability and experience)
III) Saving on magazine cost - I only need to read it once in all my flights each month
IV) Saving on meals - I seem to eat less than many others around me
V) Reduced cost of check in - I know the drill and thus can get checked in very fast, saving time and money for the airline
etc.
But those are all out-weighed by the increased alcohol supply costs :p
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
I don't know what you are talking about? hic :p
only talking about the cost to carry the extra weight of the booze, of course :D .
 

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NM said:
only talking about the cost to carry the extra weight of the booze, of course :D .
ah if you are talking weight then the extra pre-departure drinks (in the lounge) offset so don't forget to take that into account, not to mention the saving in the amount of water etc needed to be carried
 

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ah if you are talking weight then the extra pre-departure drinks (in the lounge) offset so don't forget to take that into account, not to mention the saving in the amount of water etc needed to be carried
But need to include the extra blue flushing liquid for the lavs to wash it all down :evil:
 

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NM said:
But need to include the extra blue flushing liquid for the lavs to wash it all down :evil:
I usually go before I go, in the nicer lounge toilets (except at certain airports toilets are to be avoided at all costs) - making yet another weight saving. At this rate, airlines should pay me to fly.
 

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How about Qantas charges extra to get a Skybed on certain routes where there are both Skybeds and oldstyle seats?

Whoops. Already been done by Qantas...
 

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Mal said:
How about Qantas charges extra to get a Skybed on certain routes where there are both Skybeds and oldstyle seats?

Whoops. Already been done by Qantas...
And they are not the only airline to do this. SQ charges extra in business class for 77W (both in regular fares and surcharge for RTWs, circle products, etc).
 

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Mal said:
How about Qantas charges extra to get a Skybed on certain routes where there are both Skybeds and oldstyle seats?

Whoops. Already been done by Qantas...
Only on Japan routes so far ... but what's next :confused:
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
I usually go before I go, in the nicer lounge toilets (except at certain airports toilets are to be avoided at all costs) - making yet another weight saving. At this rate, airlines should pay me to fly.
but if you don't stop the intake once on board, the outflow is going to continue and that either means lots of the blue stuff or personal embarrassment :shock:
 

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NM said:
but if you don't stop the intake once on board, the outflow is going to continue and that either means lots of the blue stuff or personal embarrassment :shock:
onboard intake is reduced thanks to pre-departure intake

personal embarrassment? sounds like you have a story to confess!
 

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Kiwi Flyer said:
onboard intake is reduced thanks to pre-departure intake

personal embarrassment? sounds like you have a story to confess!
A few close calls following the extended use of the seatbelt sign :oops:
 

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Thought so - its their "I need a break/don't want to do any work" mechanism
 

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Amusing toilet humour aside...

NM said:
Only on Japan routes so far ...
Don’t forget, shortly Qantas will be marketing 3 very different “business class" seats from/to Japan using–
· Millennium (JQ)
· Dreamtime
· Skybed
(Add a JL perspective into the mix, and some very confused Japanese premium passengers are the likely result!)
 

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same applies trans-tasman, although granted expectations are lower for most
 
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