Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[dajop]

Why is it that every few weeks this thread ends up re-litigating the same argument?

 

[moa999]

Few pax wanting to go to Sydney will want to go to Badgery's Creek and then find a way to get to the city in

And people failing to understand the catchment area for the airport.

WSI will start small.. it would be a planning disaster if it hits 10M capacity (or roughly ADL) year 1.
It will be a white elephant if they aren't planning the next stage of terminal expansion by the mid-2030s..

 

[Beano]

I very very occasionally have work out west, Parramatta, Penrith, Liverpool, Campbelltown, etc. A flight from WSIA to WLG would be a good choice. But I wonder if car hire companies would treat it together with SYD as one location, or would we be hit with a re-location fee if you entered by one and left with the other? Generally I would lose about A$3,000.00 if I had to use WSIA as that would be the value of the lost business opportunity if I had to travel from the East. I am a consultant and time is money! No, that's not my hourly rate!

 

[HS-TQE]

And people failing to understand the catchment area for the airport.

WSI will start small.. it would be a planning disaster if it hits 10M capacity (or roughly ADL) year 1.
It will be a white elephant if they aren't planning the next stage of terminal expansion by the mid-2030s..

Agreed. Considering it is primarily JQ setting up a large base of WSI thus far and QfLink are only basing 5 aircraft with no mainline QF ops to start off with.

We still don't even know if VA will be entering routes out of WSI, with only just over a year before the airport opens for RPT operations.

 

[kamchatsky]

I wouldn't worry about WSI right now, given it is government owned so it will run for decades to come, whether it is "white elephant" or not. If they need to, they can just take WSI out of Sydney Metro list to allow more airlines to fly there without impacting the metro quota.

What NSW government needs to do though is to fast track development of Bradfield and surrounding areas to provide lots of jobs.

 

[jase05]

People also are forgetting that the freight is the initial selling point. Freight organisations refused to move to Avalon whereas they jumped at the chance to move operations to WSI. It will be the airfreight hub of Australia in a rapidly growing industry

 

[SYD]

People also are forgetting that the freight is the initial selling point. Freight organisations refused to move to Avalon whereas they jumped at the chance to move operations to WSI. It will be the airfreight hub of Australia in a rapidly growing industry

Yep, the dedicated freight ops can’t wait to get out there. Most have already move their warehousing out there already.

Hopefully that will free up some space to make T1 a bit more efficient as well. Although some freight will continue to come and go below the self-loading cargo.

 

[SeaWolf]

Why is it that every few weeks this thread ends up re-litigating the same argument?

If you think it's bad on this thread you should have a browse of the Virgin forum!

 

[Beano]

Why don't we just wait and see what happens and if you get a choice between SYD or WSIA (or whatever). I think some unsuspecting travellers from AKL to WSIA, on the proposed Air NZ route, might get a surprise!

 

[clifford]

People also are forgetting that the freight is the initial selling point.

While I hate to say this, I do agree with you.

And, I did live in Western Sydney for quite a while, so I think I know the demographics. Whether that will tip the balance, I don't know. Good luck to WSI (an airport we didn't have to have, but got anyway).

 

[jase05]

an airport we didn't have to have, but got anyway).

I disagree with this statement but can understand why many people would agree with you

 

[SYD]

Good luck to WSI (an airport we didn't have to have,

Really? Been discussed for decades given SYD will never have the curfew lifted.

but got anyway).

Many years later - still not actually open of course…

 

[clifford]

Really? Been discussed for decades given SYD will never have the curfew lifted.

Many years later - still not actually open of course…

I'm not against a second Sydney airport, but just not where it's been plonked. Surely RAAF Richmond would have been a better place to start with. Oh, sorry, I forgot the noise issue....

Or failing that, just make Badgery's Creek a LCC, GA and freight airport. Oh wait, that's what it is.

 

[SYD]

I'm not against a second Sydney airport

That’s what I was questioning given that SYD is over capacity (and had been projected to be decades ago).

but just not where it's been plonked. Surely RAAF Richmond would have been a better place to start with. Oh, sorry, I forgot the noise issue...

There were other issues from memory - fog, already highly constrained for expansion and most importantly the runway was too short and constraints to extend.

Or failing that, just make Badgery's Creek a LCC, GA and freight airport. Oh wait, that's what it is.

Yes, to start with but that’s a good start.

Speaking of noise, getting those lumbering belly full freight flights taking off from SYD between 10pm and 11pm wouldn’t be a bad thing and help reduce the complaints about SYD’s very existence.