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blackcat20 said:
Cracked open the 2014 Maverick last night. Boy that packs quite a punch. Will continue the bottle tonight so will be interesting to see if it has mellowed out.
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I poured it thru the wine aerator into the decanter and put it in the fridge for a while to bring the temperature down....no punches and very smooth for me
 
got my maverick today also. helps that i get it delivered to the office as well, that way it should never go missing!
 
beefarmer said:
.......yes it is but after many years of wine enjoyment, and after many tastings where many varietals are considered, there is no doubt that I can work out firstly, whether it is good or bad and secondly, how a wine may sit in an eleven bot tasting experience...it is all in the experience and how long ones liver will hold up. We all learn especially with wine. And in the words of alzoam, there is good and there is bad. In the words of my wife, there is very good and then there is exceptional. She tells me that I just scrape over the line.Phew.
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beefarmer..

This is the beauty about wine.....the variety ...different regions,,,,different taste buds...leads to different opinions
what someone likes...others may dislike
firstly my original post was not in reference to yours ..but in my experience regardless whether its a $10 or much higher priced bottle ... I prefer to make judgement on a like for like basis ...
I cannot drink a 2012 Shiraz or Cab / Sav for example and make comparisons on its standing with a 2014 GSM...I will reserve my judgement with another GSM preferably from the same region and vintage......now thats only my opinion / style.....with all due respect to your experiences
 
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Delectable Blue said:
I cracked one of my Penley Estate 2010 Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon tonight. Here are my tasting notes:

A big classy full-bodied Coonawarra cabernet. Luscious ripe cassis, blueberry and black plumb flavours predominate, along with a hint of mint, liquorice and tobacco across that unique earthy Coonawarra background. Nice complexity and great length of finish. A very nice wine.

The only downside is that the oaky tannins are still quite firm and feel a little chalky and mouth-drying. I think the tannins still need quite a bit more bottle time to fully integrate. The good news is that the wine has a good acid balance, so it should be capable of carrying the tannins the distance. I suspect the wine needs a least another 5 years, maybe even 10 years, but should be a lovely, or possibly a stunning wine by then.

Note, after having been decanted for several hours, those tannins settled down a bit, so if you are planning on drinking the wine young, decanting is highly recommended.
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I just thought I'd post a follow-up to my tasting notes from last night.

Night 2: After having been given 24 hours to decant, the wine has changed considerably. Firstly, those tannins have now been transformed into the super-fine variety. There is still the slightest hint of powder dusting in the mouth, but nothing show stopping. The flavours in the wine have also continued to develop. The tobacco flavours have become much more prominent, but not overpowering and have been joined by a hint of chocolate, with the liquorice more subdued. The flavours push through the finish, with layers of complexity. I can’t wait to taste it again in another 5 years. Delicious!
 
pilatus said:
beefarmer..

This is the beauty about wine.....the variety ...different regions,,,,different taste buds...leads to different opinions
what someone likes...others may dislike
firstly my original post was not in reference to yours ..but in my experience regardless whether its a $10 or much higher priced bottle ... I prefer to make judgement on a like for like basis ...
I cannot drink a 2012 Shiraz or Cab / Sav for example and make comparisons on its standing with a 2014 GSM...I will reserve my judgement with another GSM preferably from the same region and vintage......now thats only my opinion / style.....with all due respect to your experiences
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Delectable Blue said:
I just thought I'd post a follow-up to my tasting notes from last night.

Night 2: After having been given 24 hours to decant, the wine has changed considerably. Firstly, those tannins have now been transformed into the super-fine variety. There is still the slightest hint of powder dusting in the mouth, but nothing show stopping. The flavours in the wine have also continued to develop. The tobacco flavours have become much more prominent, but not overpowering and have been joined by a hint of chocolate, with the liquorice more subdued. The flavours push through the finish, with layers of complexity. I can’t wait to taste it again in another 5 years. Delicious!
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Coming from you Delectable, that's is one hell of a follow up review. It is quite obvious with this wine from my memory and your beautiful prose that it's big and brassy and is engineered to lay down for a while. It sits in that Vinomofo second pricing tier of about $18 - $23 VM dollars where the quality does improve on the sub $13 mark. As you would expect. Once again, the price paid for the Penley represents outstanding value. Keep up with the imbibement, and the reviews DB !
 
rhodges said:
I agree that it sounds like Mt Avoca (not many 5 non-red stars Halliday wineries in Pyrenees with the organic emphasis). Might be a cellar-door-only special?

This one was offered a couple of months back; did nobody here bite?
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Bugger it, I'm in, ticks every box for me (except purchasing too much wine recently).

Cool avatar by the way, must get me one of those
 
beefarmer said:
Coming from you Delectable, that's is one hell of a follow up review. It is quite obvious with this wine from my memory and your beautiful prose that it's big and brassy and is engineered to lay down for a while. It sits in that Vinomofo second pricing tier of about $18 - $23 VM dollars where the quality does improve on the sub $13 mark. As you would expect. Once again, the price paid for the Penley represents outstanding value. Keep up with the imbibement, and the reviews DB !
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Thanks for your review Delectable - can't wait to taste it when it comes (hopefully!) next week. Had the Penley's Select Shiraz recently, bought blind via VM's BM deals and was surprised by how it tasted *almost* like a good cabernet sauvignon.
 
Regarding the Penley Estate 2010 Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon:
Delectable Blue said:
I just thought I'd post a follow-up to my tasting notes from last night.

Night 2: After having been given 24 hours to decant, the wine has changed considerably. Firstly, those tannins have now been transformed into the super-fine variety. There is still the slightest hint of powder dusting in the mouth, but nothing show stopping. The flavours in the wine have also continued to develop. The tobacco flavours have become much more prominent, but not overpowering and have been joined by a hint of chocolate, with the liquorice more subdued. The flavours push through the finish, with layers of complexity. I can’t wait to taste it again in another 5 years. Delicious!
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To try and make a more objective assessment of the Penley, I thought I would taste it back-to-back with the Lindemans 2012 St George. I am much more familiar with the St George so it provides something of a benchmark. It is not an entirely fair comparison, because of the difference in vintages, but it at least provides a reference point for considering the Penley in a more considered manner.

There are many similarities between the two wines, but also some marked differences. I would rate the Penley as the “bigger” of the two wines, but the St George is a touch more elegant. The St George is slightly more savoury than the Penley, with the expression of black olive and some meaty umami flavours on the back plate. The fruit in the St George isn’t quite as dominant as the Penley, with the cassis flavours displaying less-ripe characteristics. The St George has some blackberry flavours that were missing from the Penley. I also don’t detect any liquorice or tobacco in the St George. The St George has slightly better complexity, due to those savoury flavours, but both wines have a nice length of finish. The tannins in the St George are much more approachable at this point in time, having already reached the super-fine stage. However, like the Penley it still needs more bottle time to approach its best. On the basis of its tannin structure and the acid balance, I think the Penley should out-distance the St George, so for its luscious fruit and its longevity potential I would give the points to the Penley.
 
Spoke to a winemaker today who is of the opinion that company's like Vinomofo (there are others so not picking on the Fo) are killing the wine industry.
And yes, he has been down the Fo road.
 
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Buzzard said:
Spoke to a winemaker today who is of the opinion that company's like Vinomofo (there are others so not picking on the Fo) are killing the wine industry.
And yes, he has been down the Fo road.
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Did you say "welcome to reality" ?
 
Buzzard said:
Spoke to a winemaker today who is of the opinion that company's like Vinomofo (there are others so not picking on the Fo) are killing the wine industry.
And yes, he has been down the Fo road.
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Surely this is supply and demand? VM wouldn't exist if there weren't a glut of quality wine. They exist because the industry produced too much stuff they can't sell at full price.
 
The fact there are a number of wineries that have been down the FO road and then continued for multiple vintages suggests it must be working for many
 
Steady said:
The fact there are a number of wineries that have been down the FO road and then continued for multiple vintages suggests it must be working for many
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Or they don't have a more palatable option :)

IMHO when the industry rationalises and supply decreases (or heck, maybe OS demand will increase) prices will go back up. VM will be limited to newer/smaller players trying to break in to the market. The established players will get their pricing power back.
 
I guess opinions are like ar$%holes, everyones got one. In no way am I passing comment on you Buzz so please don't get the wrong idea. It's the winemaker who is trying to promote his/her product that probably retails in the late twenties that has the issue. Money is tight for plenty of wine consumers so they go looking for quality and value. What is also hurting the wine industry is that 70 per cent of all bottled wine is consumed within 48 hrs and probably bought from one of the two behemoths who love supplying and promoting their own generic labels. Wine has a much higher margin of profit for these guys hence their avarice. Who caused wine cartons to drop in size from 12 to 6? Woolworths and Coes. That would not have helped either. I buy from the Fo, Laithwaites Wine People, WineSelectors and you name it including DannyM's and for me it's about quality at a fair price. It's not always cheap as you'd be lucky buying Henschke cheap anywhere. Smaller retailers are giving the smaller wineries a position in the marketplace that they probably would never have had before. I never heard of 3 oceans or maverick or star lane before but these companies have allowed me to enjoy their wine. At the end of the day, the whole worlds' agenda is based on low margin and high volume and the perception of value. If you can do this properly with help from others, you will probably succeed. I am sure the winemakers from glenlofty would fully appreciate their grape juice being enjoyed (mostly) by many of us at a fair price. Sure, they would have loved to have sold it at $20 a bottle, but how much volume would they have got?

Now, the reason I logged on this morning with a slight diversion was for folks to rank their top 3 Vinomofo wines from 2015 in two classes. It may end up being 6 wines, those below $15, and those above. Cheers.
 
Under $15:
- Fox Creek Fox and Hounds Shiraz Cabernet
- Fox Creek Fox and Hounds Shiraz
- Jeanneret Westward we went Cabernet Malbec

Edit note: these are not in any particular order - just the best three I think I've bought under $15. Maverick Twins GSM would be just outside this list.

Over $15 is a bit tricky - lots of stuff like Giant Squid Ink, V&A Lane, Lindeman's Trio could benefit from years of cellaring.

Ready to drink now Erin Eyes Pride of Erin Reserve Riesling and Devil's Lair Chardonnay and Willoughby Park Kalgan Ironrock Chardonnay
 
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