US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

[MEL_Traveller]

Is it confirmed AA won't be oneworld anymore????

no it's not. I would think US would probably go to oneworld, not the other way around. Otherwise you'd have United/Continental/US/AA all in star alliance, and no one world representation at all in the USA.

 

[k3nnis]

Ok no worries. If they do merge is there a chance us air becomes oneworld or is it a higher chance of AA becoming *A? Edit, you beat me to my post...

 

[Shanye2233]

I asked the question whether there was anything to stop them from changing the rates . When they do merger do they become part of *A or US becomes part of OW. 300k was a example they could half it I have no idea. I do spend one third of my life researching these kinda rewards of various FFP it my new hobby and I have been helpful to many others.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I'm confused as what is the outcome of this merger . I'm thinking on one hand it's good because I'm a AA exe plat even tho I'm not sure what that's going to do for me. Then on the other hand I have jut brought up miles with U.S airways for Au Europe redemptions and was going to wait for another sale then ticket it.
In the meantime does that mean when this merger is complete the whole award redemption will change possibly doubling a F SYD CDG to 300k ?

no. Just because the two airlines merge doesn't mean you merge the award levels. So it wouldn't be the US 150k plus the AA 160k to get to Europe (to get to 310k return).

this merger would take a long time. Long enough I would expect that your current status with AA would have expired.

 

[Flashback]

Thought it might be relevant to post this:
American And US Airways Move Closer to a Merger With NDA Agreement | The Points Guy

News has just come that American has signed a non-disclosure agreement with US Airways to provide a confidential exchange of information – making the likelihood of a merger that much more real, though far from certain.

 

[bcworld]

I asked the question whether there was anything to stop them from changing the rates .

You KNOW there's nothing to stop them changing the rates. They can do that any time they like, merger or no merger.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I asked the question whether there was anything to stop them from changing the rates . When they do merger do they become part of *A or US becomes part of OW. 300k was a example they could half it I have no idea. I do spend one third of my life researching these kinda rewards of various FFP it my new hobby and I have been helpful to many others.

They have to remain competitive. They can't double the award levels because no one would fly with them - everyone would move to Delta or united. There is no chance of a doubling of award levels.

 

[serfty]

Nothing is confirmed. 2 airlines have confirmed that they are investigating the possibility of merging. That is all.

This^^^^^^

A month or three ago, as part of the "Ch 11" process requirement of investigating all possibilities AA invited relevant entities including but not limited to BA and US to enter into a "non disclosure agreement" to discuss possible mergers - to date, both US and BA have accepted.

So, indeed, no merger is confirmed - nor, in my opinion, even likely before the end of the Ch 11 process.

I do believe however a post Ch. 11 merger is probable 2013-2015.

Having posted that two, things are clear - if in the unlikely event US and AA do merge before AA comes out of the CH 11 process, the combine will remain as "American Airlines" and stay in oneworld.

 

[anat0l]

I asked the question whether there was anything to stop them from changing the rates.

They (US) can change the rates any time they like. Admittedly, being in a US-centric environment they would most likely be required to provide some advance notice (not sure about what these are - I'm not on top of these things), and many people obviously won't be happy if the rates go up (and some will probably file DoT or legal cases for loss of utility / etc., somewhat similar to some cases against COdbaUA in the USA right now).

The merger or lack thereof it does not have any bearing on how rates change at all. And right now since it is far from certain, it is my opinion that it isn't healthy to start speculating on what those changes might be when there is no solid basis to even start thinking about such a thing.

In fact, if we want to really start a discussion about US/AA merger, better start / split off to a new thread.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

i was just looking for OZ flights ex SYD and noticed they are now being operated by A330-300 aircraft (in Sept, Oct and Nov for the dates i was checking). Weren't they 777s before? just a heads up to check seat assignments if you were previously on a 777. (And no chance of flat beds anymore.) Or were they always A330s?

 

[bcworld]

i was just looking for OZ flights ex SYD and noticed they are now being operated by A330-300 aircraft (in Sept, Oct and Nov for the dates i was checking). Weren't they 777s before? just a heads up to check seat assignments if you were previously on a 777. (And no chance of flat beds anymore.) Or were they always A330s?

I think they were 777s but with very slim chance of the fabled QS flat beds.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I think they were 777s but with very slim chance of the fabled QS flat beds.

there were those living in hope

 

[bcworld]

there were those living in hope

Could be temporary?

ASIANA AIRLINES Oct 2012 Sydney Operation Changes | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates

Maybe another 777 is going in to be QS'ed / First Suited?

 

[JohnK]

Is it confirmed AA won't be oneworld anymore????

I can confirm that it is purely speculation by AFF experts.

In real life there is a possibility that it may happen....

 

[drron]

The CEO of US air has stated on numerous occasions that if US and AA merge the merged airline will be called AA and remain in OW.The chance of AA leaving OW is infinitesimal.
The CEO of AA in his statement re the NDA with US said other parties have also signed.BA have already admitted they have signed but there is speculation that either Republic(frontier airlines) or Virgin America are other possibilities.

For All AA Managers Subject: American and US Airways Sign Confidentiality Agreement; American Signs Agreements with Other Parties
Summary
Today, American Airlines and US Airways announced the two parties signed an agreement to provide for the confidential exchange of information.


As part of the process, other parties have also signed confidentiality agreements, which permit for the confidential exchange of information and discussion between American and those parties.
The company will move through this evaluation process toward the goals Tom Horton has already stated: to create the highest value for our creditors and the best outcome for our people.

AMR: We

 

[Alanslegal]

I'm confused as what is the outcome of this merger . I'm thinking on one hand it's good because I'm a AA exe plat even tho I'm not sure what that's going to do for me. Then on the other hand I have jut brought up miles with U.S airways for Au Europe redemptions and was going to wait for another sale then ticket it.
In the meantime does that mean when this merger is complete the whole award redemption will change possibly doubling a F SYD CDG to 300k ?

Having elite status is generally negligible when flying premium cabins anyway. You might be a AA EXP flying F and I might be an AA nobody flying F and I will see you at the same check in counters, access the same priority boarding lines, visit the same lounge, and drink the same alcohol on board. In addition, flying an award ticket, we will both earn the same amount miles even after your elite status bonus is applied

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Having elite status is generally negligible when flying premium cabins anyway. You might be a AA EXP flying F and I might be an AA nobody flying F and I will see you at the same check in counters, access the same priority boarding lines, visit the same lounge, and drink the same alcohol on board. In addition, flying an award ticket, we will both earn the same amount miles even after your elite status bonus is applied

lol. But shanye will get his choice of 'entree' before you!

 

[lmere12]

This morning I thought i'd check my booking with US, it shows the summary and the booking ref. Click view, changed dates in address bar, tried using my miles number, ticket no, booking ref.. all results in 'can't find reservation'. The info did come up after I had made the booking.
Should I be concerned ? in CMT it only shows portions of my flights. (TG, SQ, LH) by using the LH booking ref. Using the TG site booking ref it all shows there.

05/25/2013 - 06/13/2013

Brisbane, Australia Bangkok, Thailand Bangkok, Thailand Frankfurt, Germany Frankfurt, Germany Athens, Greece (CMT) Paris, France (Charles de Gaulle) Frankfurt, Germany (CMT) Frankfurt, Germany Bangkok, Thailand Bangkok, Thailand Singapore, Singapore (CMT) Singapore, Singapore Brisbane, Australia (CMT)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

This morning I thought i'd check my booking with US, it shows the summary and the booking ref. Click view, changed dates in address bar, tried using my miles number, ticket no, booking ref.. all results in 'can't find reservation'. The info did come up after I had made the booking.
Should I be concerned ? in CMT it only shows portions of my flights. (TG, SQ, LH) by using the LH booking ref. Using the TG site booking ref it all shows there.

05/25/2013 - 06/13/2013

Brisbane, Australia Bangkok, Thailand Bangkok, Thailand Frankfurt, Germany Frankfurt, Germany Athens, Greece (CMT) Paris, France (Charles de Gaulle) Frankfurt, Germany (CMT) Frankfurt, Germany Bangkok, Thailand Bangkok, Thailand Singapore, Singapore (CMT) Singapore, Singapore Brisbane, Australia (CMT)

this is a common problem.

Here's how to fix it:
1) try to retrieve your reservation in the normal way
2) close the pop-up box
2) have a look at the address bar in your browswer, you will see about 2/3rds of the way along a date embedded into the text
3) you need to play around with this date either: a) change the date to the day before it currently shows (for example if it is 20120918, change it to 20120917), or b) if you have made a change to the booking, enter the date as you are now going to travel (for exampe, you were originally booked on 20120918, but changed your reservation a week earlier, the address bar will still show 20120918, you will need to enter 20120911)
4) hit 'enter'
5) your reservation will now show in full

It's some quirk where the date defaults to the day after - might be something to do with the date line change between AU and the USA. In the case of changed booking it seems to keep the original date.

 

[bcworld]

this is a common problem.

Here's how to fix it:
1) try to retrieve your reservation in the normal way
2) close the pop-up box
2) have a look at the address bar in your browswer, you will see about 2/3rds of the way along a date embedded into the text
3) you need to play around with this date either: a) change the date to the day before it currently shows (for example if it is 20120918, change it to 20120917), or b) if you have made a change to the booking, enter the date as you are now going to travel (for exampe, you were originally booked on 20120918, but changed your reservation a week earlier, the address bar will still show 20120918, you will need to enter 20120911)
4) hit 'enter'
5) your reservation will now show in full

It's some quirk where the date defaults to the day after - might be something to do with the date line change between AU and the USA. In the case of changed booking it seems to keep the original date.

Lmere said he changed the dates in his post!

I have had the same problem...an itin which could be viewed by changing the date...all of a sudden couldn't be viewed at all via the US site. The reservation was in order but it was a single carrier itin & I could pull up the details on the carriers website so felt comfortable enough about it. In lmere's case I might have a quick ring around operating carriers to see if all is well...or ask US first of course.