Travel etiquette

[amp-qld]

I think i'd sign a petition for wheel-on *only* (and all one sized). The amount of times i've been sconned in the head or knees by people with huge duffle bags or oversized handbags as people sling them over their shoulder and just barge down the aisle towards their seat without regard for who they're hitting, i've lost count of!

I agree that huge duffle bags should be banned (they almost certainly wouldn't meet the size requirements) but I think I've been endangered more by wheel-ons than anything else. At least with other things, you're only moving the bag to/from shoulder or waist height not all the way to/from the floor. Of course, I'm never going to win this one as the airlines want people to have lots of carry-on instead of checked baggage.

 

[ShaneN]

Additionally, in my experience, what you have to take out of your bag and what you can/can't take through security varies depending on whether it's a domestic or international terminal and also depends on airport in general.

Agree with this. There is the obvious difference in liquid and gel rules between domestic and international in Australia, but not in USA. Also the need to remove all shoes and belts in USA. While I leave my IPad in my bag in Australia, I was ordered to remove it for separate scanning at Dublin. Signs at LHR also require tablet PCs to be removed. Some airports in Australia also require umbrellas to be removed from bags, at least some of the time. I have had this experience at BNE, while signs at TSV also ask for umbrellas to be removed.

I try to have everything in my bag before approaching security (except liquids and gels for international). I do not carry aerosols.

 

[JohnK]

I concur. Several times i've been waiting at a carousel for it to start, around a meter or so back, along with others next to me on either side. Pretty much every time, i've had someone barge through and stand directly in front of me. I don't get some people...

Never ceases to amaze me the number of people who come and stand in front of the carousel when there are people awaiting there already. BKK is a classic example with a line ~1m away from carousel yet people come and stand inside that line.

It bothers me that 'don't touch the seat in front of you' is becoming accepted etiquette.

Dont worry about it too much. The person in front does not own that seat. You can use your meal tray, your IFE screen and also touch and lean against the seat in front if that is how you choose to sleep.

In my experience most people dont mind you using the seat back for support as long as you do not yank the seat back.

 

[Clivem]

When was that written? The 1920's? No way am I doing the amount of travel I do with a carry only bag

Try doing a tight connection in ORD arriving at Gate G13 or so on an AA Eagle flight, and connecting to a mainline at say gate K12 or so. I've done it a few times, and there's no way i'm running with a 7-10kg carry on

Actually I think 'Rules For My Unborn Son' was only published in October of 2009 or there about ......... but I guess you could be right, men did start going 'soft' quite some time before that......... So just out of interest .... how much moisturisers etc. are you actually dragging around in your wheelie bag to load it up that much anyway ?

 

[Kieran2274]

You forgot common sense...

This is the crux of what I call the two handed rule of travel (bit simpler than the original list) - if you use your common sense, and display a bit of consideration for your fellow human beings (using the 'treat others as you would like to be treated' philosophy), you can't go wrong.

I'm rather pleased to say for every individual who breached that two hander rule, I've have come across someone who epitomised it. Still hope for the human race

 

[OATEK]

I still think that when International travel is involved, there is a certain element of panic in many travelers - and this leads to impolite actions. Whether at the security line, the carousel or getting on/off the plane, there always seems to be a solid phalanx of people who are not confident. Then of course there are those that are just seemingly by nature inconsiderate, rude, even arrogant - and they get short shrift. But I do make a lot of allowance for those I feel are under pressure and not meaning to be difficult. After all, I remember the first few flights I took overseas with small children being very anxious, and no doubt causing all sorts of aggravation to fellow travelers without even being aware of it.

 

[drewbles]

Actually I think 'Rules For My Unborn Son' was only published in October of 2009 or there about ......... but I guess you could be right, men did start going 'soft' quite some time before that......... So just out of interest .... how much moisturisers etc. are you actually dragging around in your wheelie bag to load it up that much anyway ?

I always carry lip balm, a saline based spray for my nose (Fess Frequent Flyer) and a small tube of hand moisturiser. I had extreme acne as a teenager, and as a result of the medication I was on, my skin is stuffed. I have to use moisturiser even when not travelling though.

And considering the G13 to K12 trip is between 800-900m, try doing that in 10 minutes negotiating the masses with a 10kg carry on without wheels

It would be interesting to know, how many men here actually travel with non-wheel aboard luggage?

 

[TomVexille]

I always carry lip balm, a saline based spray for my nose (Fess Frequent Flyer) and a small tube of hand moisturiser. I had extreme acne as a teenager, and as a result of the medication I was on, my skin is stuffed. I have to use moisturiser even when not travelling though.

And considering the G13 to K12 trip is between 800-900m, try doing that in 10 minutes negotiating the masses with a 10kg carry on without wheels

It would be interesting to know, how many men here actually travel with non-wheel aboard luggage?

The only two pieces of luggage I own with wheels are my cricket bag and golf bag. Then again I do travel rather light.

 

[prozac]

It would be interesting to know, how many men here actually travel with non-wheel aboard luggage?

I have wheels but don't often use them.

Edit: Actually I pity men who insist on using wheels even inside the a/c.

10kg is nothing to carry unless you are ill or infirm. Really. Your parents hauled bigger bags around than that, and the bags did not have wheels back then.

 

[drewbles]

The only two pieces of luggage I own with wheels are my cricket bag and golf bag. Then again I do travel rather light.

As do I. 95% of my trips, if not more, are hand luggage only (and that's up to 14 days in the USA where I can frequently have 14 or more flights in that period). I guess travelling so much, wheels work for me. I'm a strong sort of person, yet fail to see how having a wheel bag (and a laptop bag) makes me any less of a 'man'

 

[Kieran2274]

It would be interesting to know, how many men here actually travel with non-wheel aboard luggage?

I've never taken a wheeled bag onboard (checked-in yes) and nowadays only fly with a satchel bag or overnight bag as carry-on (I'm a master of light packaging now!). Wheeled bags tend to be heavy, and you lose a lot of room to those wheels/handles.

I honestly don't think they do a lot of favours for travellers - if you can't carry it, you've packed too much (rather than become 'unmanly' lol)

 

[Scott Brown]

It would be interesting to know, how many men here actually travel with non-wheel aboard luggage?

I travel every week and switched to a small duffle bag a year ago. Packs the same as a cabin trolley bag, I can carry it in front of me and not smack people in the face or catch it on the seats and it can squeeze in anywhere where a cabin bag. I leave my trainers and bath bag at the interstate place of work under the desk - no point packing it up just to bring it back. All part of my easy-on, easy-off plan.

 

[TomVexille]

As do I. 95% of my trips, if not more, are hand luggage only (and that's up to 14 days in the USA where I can frequently have 14 or more flights in that period). I guess travelling so much, wheels work for me. I'm a strong sort of person, yet fail to see how having a wheel bag (and a laptop bag) makes me any less of a 'man'

You'll have to take that up with the people who believe that. Wheels don't bother me.

 

[DC3]

... I've never taken a wheeled bag onboard (checked-in yes) and nowadays only fly with a satchel bag or overnight bag as carry-on I honestly don't think they do a lot of favours for travellers - if you can't carry it, you've packed too much (rather than become 'unmanly' lol)

The murse is quite popular also, and comes in a range of sizes. Not for everybody though:

 

[JohnK]

It would be interesting to know, how many men here actually travel with non-wheel aboard luggage?

I have a carry bag with shoulder strap I use most weeks. I have been known to have 10-12kgs in it at times. I check it in most of the time but still have to lug it to/from airport.

Golf bag is also without wheels and can weigh 10-12kgs.

Try lugging suitcase, carry bag and golf clubs from one end of Victory Monument to the other climbing huge stairs as well. That was one of my stupidest ideas trying to prove a point.

 

[Kieran2274]

The murse is quite popular also, and comes in a range of sizes. Not for everybody though:

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If your carry-on is almost or bigger than you, then I'd feel some emasculation lol

 

[suze2000]

The murse is quite popular also, and comes in a range of sizes. Not for everybody though:

MURSE! HA! We call it a man-bag. (made a huge difference in our marriage when I got jack of carrying hubby's stuff around and bought him a nice leather satchel from Country Road. Now he can carry my excess cr*p instead. As it was meant to be. )

 

[BadgerBoi]

MURSE! HA! We call it a man-bag. (made a huge difference in our marriage when I got jack of carrying hubby's stuff around and bought him a nice leather satchel from Country Road. Now he can carry my excess cr*p instead. As it was meant to be. )

That's the first time I've come across the word murse, but I hope it becomes widely used in 2014. It sounds like the ideal place to carry one's merkin.

 

[boylero]

Curious to know what you guys think in regard to carry-on baggage handling? I have many instances when travelling at the front of the aircraft where I quickly sit down and place my carry-on at my feet to allow the foot traffic to flow.

Now when it comes time to put luggage in overhead I have often been asked to place myself, of which I have no problem but would it not be ok for the FA to do it? Some do mind you.

In fact one VA flight I was accused by the FA of conspiring to have my luggage stowed in J because I'd sat down as explained above.

 

[legroom]

Say you are in the aisle seat in Y when the window / middle person comes in later, how many of you would unbuckle and stand up to allow for an easier access?

Or just sit upright, move knees sideways only ?

Would it matter if the other person is a male or female, young or old ?

Similarly, what's your response like during the flight to allow their egress ?

Cheers