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Dead right. After an arthroscope on my right knee, my orthopedic surgeon advised me not to run at the gym (or anywhere else) any more

NEVER, NEVER run on a treadmill anywhere (other than doing a stress test).

When tread mills came into wider use in the early 1970s they were hailed (by the then 'elite' sports programs & coaches) as being a major step forward in fitness and strengthening. Running in air-conditioned comfort when outdoor conditions would prevent it etc etc.

Then within a few years across virtually every sport (team or individual) there were forced retirements by the hundred month after month around the world. The issue - knee, hip and ankle damage.

Fast forward three and a bit decades...

Now we see 'fitness' centres crammed with tread mills as well as other fitness machines.

However, professional or serious amateur athletes virtually never use them as 'in the ranks' it is known that anything but short occasional use of treadmills causes adverse muscular-skeletal issues.

When running naturally (not on a treadmill) your centre of gravity and hip position, foot position etc constantly change angle as well as the ground surface varying slightly.

On a treadmill - your hips, centre of gravity etc are nearly locked in place and the natural (almost rolling) motion of your gait is removed.

All the stress relief due to the changing c.o.g. is lost and invariably each person's weakest link (ankle/knee/hip) bears the punishment.

Toss in playing rugby/netball for a little too long and your joints haven't a chance.
 
I wonder if someone will write something similar in about 50 years about the JSF?


Who can forget the immortal:

There was a young pilot named Kevin,
Who flew an F 1 11,
He took off with a roar,
At 6.44
And crashed at a quarter to seven.
 
Who can forget the immortal:

There was a young pilot named Kevin,
Who flew an F 1 11,
He took off with a roar,
At 6.44
And crashed at a quarter to seven.


Or this one:
Oh, the F-one-double one it is a lovely plane,
It flies at twice the speed of sound and scatters bombs like rain,
It's wings go back and forward, it's the latest thing around,
It's a pity that it isn't safe to take it off the ground.

 
NEVER, NEVER run on a treadmill anywhere (other than doing a stress test).

When tread mills came into wider use in the early 1970s they were hailed (by the then 'elite' sports programs & coaches) as being a major step forward in fitness and strengthening. Running in air-conditioned comfort when outdoor conditions would prevent it etc etc.

Then within a few years across virtually every sport (team or individual) there were forced retirements by the hundred month after month around the world. The issue - knee, hip and ankle damage.

Fast forward three and a bit decades...

Now we see 'fitness' centres crammed with tread mills as well as other fitness machines.

However, professional or serious amateur athletes virtually never use them as 'in the ranks' it is known that anything but short occasional use of treadmills causes adverse muscular-skeletal issues.

When running naturally (not on a treadmill) your centre of gravity and hip position, foot position etc constantly change angle as well as the ground surface varying slightly.

On a treadmill - your hips, centre of gravity etc are nearly locked in place and the natural (almost rolling) motion of your gait is removed.

All the stress relief due to the changing c.o.g. is lost and invariably each person's weakest link (ankle/knee/hip) bears the punishment.

Toss in playing rugby/netball for a little too long and your joints haven't a chance.

And we could also debate the benefits of the OP's knee arthroscopy but I digress ;)
 
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Got to watch an Ortho in action recently. :shock: :shock:
It didn't change my mind about heart disease being the way to go.

Clive bought QN in 2009.Joh died 2004.
The premier in 2009 was Anna Bligh.And for another 3 years.

Doesn't really change the point about QLD Inc. of which Clive is a member.

How did they get it anywhere near the train??

I'm assuming via the lifts and then the wide gate. Still the dude in the booth yelled at us when we took two children through on the family travel deal.

Well, they don't have to worry about the closure cost anymore.

Doubt the Palmer "hold, fold and flick to the taxpayer trick" would have worked for BHP.

I doubt BHP would have run it into the ground and (allegedly) stripped money out for the business for the benefit of one person until it was an insolvent shell.
 
At face value his claim is a furphy, a classic bit of distraction. I'll even say completely incorrect. Why? Because standard business practice is that liabilities transfer when the business is sold. I'll bet 3 schooners of xx_X that BHP clearly included the environmental clean up in the contract of sale. If Clive didn't do due diligence and extract a reduced price based on those environmental liabilities that's his problem.
<snip>.


Correct. Any asset or liability can be excluded from a contract of sale (even when its a corporate entity transaction) but it would have been worth 'valuing' the liability at twice its negative value to get it off BHP's books. Of course a buying party could ask a government to 'assist' with the prior liability (ie take it on or some how waive it) to help the sale go through to keep the economic benefits of the operation going (if closure was the alternative), arguing that the liability was accrued under a government regime that previously allowed it. Called holding a gun to the government's head.

Although these types of things can have a better ending. The Mt Bischoff tin mine in western Tasmania was abandoned 'as is' in the 1940s and left behind a nasty acid mine drainage issue in a high rainfall environment in western Tas which eventually became the property - and problem - of the Tasmanian Government (I think it was last operated during WW2 by or for the government). No-one would touch it afterwards, even though tin prices went up to high levels in the 1990s.

Eventually a WA mob called Bluestone Tin bought the large Renison tin mine down the road and approached the government to take the lease on Mt Bischoff as well. Of course as soon as anyone mentioned re-opening a mine in "the wilderness" out came all the greenies, etc, etc. More environmental pillage! It took a while to get the message through that the new mine would be on the same site as the old mine, and they would actually dig up and process the stuff currently draining acid (it actually wasn't, as it was neutralised, but it still wasn't good). The problem went through the crusher and concentrator. And so it has come to pass; even the Greens expressed satisfaction with the outcome.
 
More on the Lebanon story.60 minutes looks totally incompetent-
No Cookies | Herald Sun

Behind a pay wall but just google the title.
60 Minutes in Lebanon: Inside the ‘safe house’ where Sally Faulkner was reunited with her children
 
More on the Lebanon story.60 minutes looks totally incompetent-
No Cookies | Herald Sun

Behind a pay wall but just google the title.
60 Minutes in Lebanon: Inside the ‘safe house’ where Sally Faulkner was reunited with her children

What an awful mess. Surprised that if it was researched so well that the team didn't know the Embassy wasn't contactable after hours.
 
What an awful mess. Surprised that if it was researched so well that the team didn't know the Embassy wasn't contactable after hours.

Amateurs with deep pockets... good on the husband to negotiate financial settlement off them, whatever the figure is.
 
Me thinks it is time for you to look at where the a/c is now in it's development.
Without prejudice, I believe $17-$20 billion could be better spent on things other than toy jets, not to mention $25B on submarines, but I'm getting OT!:)
 
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There is a limited number of tickets available with registration via this page. RAAF East Sale Open Day.
 
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